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07-30-2013, 10:38 AM
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The 11-12 NJD Penalty Kill

Has there ever been a penalty kill as utterly dominant as this one?

Not only did they set the record for PK% at 89.6%, they scored 12 short handed goals, meaning that for the season they were -15 on the PK.

That's nuts. Most teams are like -35 to -40, with the best usually around -25.

I don't have the time to scour the numbers right now, but can anyone think of a PK unit in the NHL's history that was so good at preventing AND scoring goals?

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I don't remember the exact #s, but the 95-96 Red Wings had a PK of over 95%, IIRC.

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Ehhm... I'm pretty sure 89,6% is all-time record

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The 73-74 Flyers were pretty good. 88.4% PK, along with 20 shorthanded goals. Their differential of -29 may not seem so extraordinary, until you consider that they had far more penalties to kill than anyone else, so they had to stay at that level for much longer.
http://www.hockey-reference.com/leagues/NHL_1974.html

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I don't remember the exact #s, but the 95-96 Red Wings had a PK of over 95%, IIRC.
The wings that season had an 88.27%pk with 17 SHG

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The 73-74 Flyers were pretty good. 88.4% PK, along with 20 shorthanded goals. Their differential of -29 may not seem so extraordinary, until you consider that they had far more penalties to kill than anyone else, so they had to stay at that level for much longer.
http://www.hockey-reference.com/leagues/NHL_1974.html
And back then shot blocking wasn't what it is today.

Still, those Devils numbers are very impressive.

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The wings that season had an 88.27%pk with 17 SHG
Pretty impressive, but that team was still only -27.

The 11-12 Devils' performance of -12 looks like far and away the best we've seen over 82 games.

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The strange thing is that that same PK went on to be -21 in 24 playoff games, with an abysmal 73.2% kill rate.

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The strange thing is that that same PK went on to be -21 in 24 playoff games, with an abysmal 73.2% kill rate.
Florida was a very big part of that drop, however, as their key players got injured during the run, the % drop.

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I remember the Wings were over 90% at some point but then let in a few shorties at the end of the season.

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The strange thing is that that same PK went on to be -21 in 24 playoff games, with an abysmal 73.2% kill rate.
PK success is very random. While the 11-12 Devils had a great PK, it's not as if they had the best collection of PK personnel ever assembled. They were good, and got the right bounces, but inevitably came back down to earth in the playoffs and 12-13.

Still though, just seeing that -12 number is staggering.

What I'm most intrigued to see is if the Devils can keep their PK offense going.

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PK success is very random. While the 11-12 Devils had a great PK, it's not as if they had the best collection of PK personnel ever assembled. They were good, and got the right bounces, but inevitably came back down to earth in the playoffs and 12-13.

Still though, just seeing that -12 number is staggering.

What I'm most intrigued to see is if the Devils can keep their PK offense going.
Parise gone, now Kovy too... highly doubt it

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Parise gone, now Kovy too... highly doubt it
The Devils scored 12 SHG in 11-12, with Parise.

The Devils scored 11 SHG in 48 games in 12-13, without Parise.

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The Devils scored 12 SHG in 11-12, with Parise.

The Devils scored 11 SHG in 48 games in 12-13, without Parise.
Thats 23 SHG in 130 games. 10 of them by Parise and Kovy

Anyway. Wanna bet your house?

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Thats 23 SHG in 130 games. 10 of them by Parise and Kovy

Anyway. Wanna bet your house?
Why is Parise's production relevant when they exceeded their 11-12 pace in 12-13?

Take away Kovy's SHG in 12-13 and the Devils are still tied for 1st with 7, which would put them on pace for 12 over 82 games.

So without Parise and without Kovy's production they were still on pace to equal their 11-12 total last year.

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Thats 23 SHG in 130 games. 10 of them by Parise and Kovy

Anyway. Wanna bet your house?

Yes I do. Because Henrique/Elias/Zajac/Zubrus all can score on the PK

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Yes I do. Because Henrique/Elias/Zajac/Zubrus all can score on the PK
Never disputed that. Doesnt mean they would be best in entire league. And yes "system" argument that heavy forechecking translates into highly agressive PK (thus producing quality chances), I understand.

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