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07-27-2013, 03:12 PM
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Why just 6,000? :/
I think they just didn't have enough money for a bigger arena.

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07-27-2013, 03:28 PM
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I think they just didn't have enough money for a bigger arena.
And what is their potential? Are they capable of fulfilling let's say 10k arena?

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07-27-2013, 04:08 PM
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Well one thing is clear. 6000 arena is by far not enough for the ambitious KHL plans. For VHL though it is good size and a very nice arena.

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07-27-2013, 04:55 PM
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And what is their potential? Are they capable of fulfilling let's say 10k arena?
It's quite a big hockey town in the third largest metropolitan area in Russia. The question is... can they market it? All those "90s generation" clubs are notable for not giving a damn about that in spite of their big budgets.

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The new location for CSKA arena - ex. Cherkizovsky market territory. Link.



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The new location for CSKA arena - ex. Cherkizovsky market territory. Link.
Can you explain for us, is it good or bad for the club? Does that site holds some historical relevance?

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07-31-2013, 09:01 PM
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It's really close to Lokomotiv stadium, as well as Spartak Moscow Otkritie arena. Not really CSKA territory. But they're lucky to find any place within the city at all. I don't see any value in "historical relevance".

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08-01-2013, 03:18 AM
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Well, it will be located at least in separate building, while basketball CSKA will play in VTB-Arena with football and hockey Dynamo.

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08-01-2013, 03:29 AM
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Well, it will be located at least in separate building, while basketball CSKA will play in VTB-Arena with football and hockey Dynamo.
I'm pretty sure if CSKA will get their arena, PBC CSKA will play there as well. And it's possible it will happen before VTB-Arena even gets built.

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08-01-2013, 04:04 AM
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Guys, how real is this Cherkizovsky market project? Krasnogorsk failed if I know. I agree with ult, it can become a home for PBC CSKA as well. It make sense.


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I don't get either of the options. The arena where both HC and BC could host their games already exists. It's right next to the future PFC CSKA stadium. Megasport.

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I don't get either of the options. The arena where both HC and BC could host their games already exists. It's right next to the future PFC CSKA stadium. Megasport.
It seems that nobody wants to be tenant of Megasport. Btw, is it possible ever?

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creating of CSKA's arena within 500 meters of FC Lokomotiv's arena makes me rofl

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It seems that nobody wants to be tenant of Megasport. Btw, is it possible ever?
The main problems with Megasport is that it's expensive and poorly managed. But if there's a club capable of somehow fixing those issues it's CSKA on Rosneft budget.

It's shameful to see that the biggest hockey arena located in the center of Moscow remains to be just as useless for the game as the Sochi stadium, while everyone seems to get more accustomed with the situation every year. It's like the embodiment of all things wrong about Russian hockey in one place.

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The main problems with Megasport is that it's expensive and poorly managed. But if there's a club capable of somehow fixing those issues it's CSKA on Rosneft budget.

It's shameful to see that the biggest hockey arena located in the center of Moscow remains to be just as useless for the game as the Sochi stadium, while everyone seems to get more accustomed with the situation every year. It's like the embodiment of all things wrong about Russian hockey in one place.
yep, maybe it is chaeper for Rosneft to build new arena than ranting Megasport. In long term.

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I don't get either of the options. The arena where both HC and BC could host their games already exists. It's right next to the future PFC CSKA stadium. Megasport.


It's nicer and more modern in terms of comfort than old USK CSKA, but it's not designed for basketball, there are too much space around the court. PBC CSKA needed 10k+ arena to get Euroleague's A license, that's why they played there. Still, Megasport is a better option than Oly's stadium (picture below)

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Just thought some people might find this interesting. A new football stadium in Kaliningrad will have an ice rink with a nice view.








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Anybody that know more about this topic maybe can answer me- is there any news on the jet ice technology KHL wanted to implement in all of the arenas?


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08-07-2013, 06:26 AM
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yesterday in the interview it was said that CSKA will have an arena and not on Cherkizovskiy, plan to build by 2015 (doubt it's feasible)

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08-09-2013, 05:07 PM
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Lada Tolyatti

Lada Arena
Capacity: 6000 seats
Cost: $100 mln
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08-09-2013, 05:11 PM
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Looks very nice. Just wonder why they didn't invest a little more. Construction of O2 World in Hamburg did cost about the same and they have capacity of 13,000 (ice hockey) and 16,000 (concerts).

PS: Many Russian stadiums seem to have the stands 2 metres high, is that because of the better position to watch the game or safety reasons or anything else?


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08-09-2013, 05:55 PM
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They still have their old arena right?? If so, is it in operation and will it be used by the club as a secondary for practices and juniors? Also, who is the owner of this arena?

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08-09-2013, 06:15 PM
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Looks very nice.
Depends on the scale. Yes for VHL, not KHL.

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08-10-2013, 09:33 AM
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Looks very nice. Just wonder why they didn't invest a little more. Construction of O2 World in Hamburg did cost about the same and they have capacity of 13,000 (ice hockey) and 16,000 (concerts).

PS: Many Russian stadiums seem to have the stands 2 metres high, is that because of the better position to watch the game or safety reasons or anything else?
I think it's a little naive to think they could get away with a little more spending and build much bigger arena in result. It's 2013. Arena in Sochi costs 250 mln, Minsk arena - 350 mln as well as Consol center, and arena in Brooklyn costs more than 1 bln. As for Lada Arena, the construction took much longer than expected, it was postponed many times, the contractor didn't have any experience, the politician didn't know what they wanted 10k or 6k, and were just trying to score political points, the bureaucrats were getting in the way, et cetera, et cetera...

In the end they ended up buying Ufa arena project, reduced its capacity, but still built it as if it is supposed to have the second tier. Now they're talking about increasing the capacity to 8k...

Anyway here is the project of the new Lokomotiv base, which is to be completed by 2015. It will have 43 apartments, medical center, training rink with a room for 1500 spectators, saunas, pools and restaurants.



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08-10-2013, 09:54 AM
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It was written by many guys that Togliatti is a relatively small town for Russian standards so I guess 6,000 arena for VHL is perfectly okay.

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