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08-04-2013, 05:01 PM
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TT is getting lots of love from those who are there.

A selection of views from different twitter accounts..

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Chris Peters ‏@chrismpeters 10m

Teravainen does it again. Beautiful one-timer on the power play makes it 4-3 FIN. Seriously, no one on the ice close to him
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Teravainen scores on a power play. What an awesome set up and then a blast with traffic in front. Teravainen is lethal.
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Corey Pronman ‏@coreypronman 56m

CHI's Teravainen dangerous on every shift. High-end talent level.
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After 1st 2 games, most impressive player i've seen is Teuvo Teravainen. Incredible puck skills, great shot and plays solid defensively

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08-04-2013, 05:09 PM
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Teravainen sets up the OT winner. 4-point game for TT. Pronman says it wasn't "even close", TT was the best player on the ice.

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08-04-2013, 06:18 PM
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Teravainen sets up the OT winner. 4-point game for TT. Pronman says it wasn't "even close", TT was the best player on the ice.
Yeah as stated he's getting rave reviews from numerous places. Lots of talk on Twitter and I've talked to a couple people there that have said the same. Good to hear.

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08-05-2013, 12:41 AM
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I love that Teräväinen gets underrated by other teams fans (OK, not MTL )

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TT for sure has talents. Just needs to bulk up.

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According to Jokerit twitter, they've been training with TT centering the second line: https://twitter.com/Teme09/status/36...007552/photo/1 "Lahti" could mean Janne Lahti, who won the goal scoring title in SM-Liiga two seasons ago (playing in the same line with Teemu Pulkkinen), he's been rumored to go to Jokerit. Apparently Jokerit aren't looking for a new centre to replace Ilari Filppula so it seems they're giving Teräväinen another shot at C.
That's not Jokerit twitter message. Only some fan making speculation of his own lines.

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08-05-2013, 09:07 AM
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TT is very effective and good on the point at PP. How you guys feel how he would fit on the PP on blackhawks? Where you would slot him in the future?

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TT is very effective and good on the point at PP. How you guys feel how he would fit on the PP on blackhawks? Where you would slot him in the future?
If TT can manage to be NHL-average on the PP point, he would automatically be one of the Hawks' best options there.

Not that it would mean much after Kompon neutered him.

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08-05-2013, 09:40 AM
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He'd be a missing piece to our PP

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Here you can see Teuvo's first three points from game against USA Blue. An assist to OT goal is missing. Glad to be able to see Teuvo one more year in Finland. One of the most enjoyable player to watch in FEL.

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Funniest part here is that Drouin who is shorter, worse skater, hands not even remotely close to TT's went 3rd this year and everyone was saying last year that Teravainen is too small for NHL, yet nobody saying that about Drouin since he has Canadian passport.

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Sounds like Hinostroza was involved in a pretty dangerous play.

coreypronman: Now PIT's Sundqvist is down and hurt after Hinostroza knocked him into the boards. Immediately called the trainer over.

chrismpeters: Vince Hinostroza turnbuckled Sundqvist, who is being helped to the dressing room after laying on the ice for a while there. #NJEC

NHLAdamK: Sweden's Oskar Sundqvist just got run into the stanchion Pacioretty-style. But thankfully he's able to get up and walk off on his own.

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08-05-2013, 01:51 PM
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Sundqvist won't be coming back to the game. Least he got off on his own power.

But Hinostroza's starting to stand out.

coreypronman: CHI's Hinostroza has come alive past few periods. Making a lot of plays.

chrismpeters: Seems to have adjusted to pace after slow start RT @coreypronman CHI's Hinostroza has come alive past few periods. Making a lot of plays.

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Hinostroza and Hayden got cut from the USA camp today. Motte is still on the roster.

Corey Pronman ‏@coreypronman
No reak surprise cut. Thought maybe Ebert or Hinostroza would get to stay but somebody has to go.

EDIT: Chris Peters gave some thoughts about all of the guys who got cut today.

http://unitedstatesofhockey.com/2013...m-lake-placid/

About the Hawks prospects he said:
John Hayden — At his size, Hayden needed to be a little more assertive to stay in camp. He’s a big, strong guy and his power game just wasn’t quite where it needed to be. He showed a few flashes of good play in the defensive zone, but his hand skills need work if he’s going to be able to produce offensively. He’s one to continue watching.

Vince Hinostroza — Hinostroza had a really good bounce-back game Monday after being pretty non-existant the first game, but I think it might’ve been too little, too late. It was tough to see where exactly he fits in. He has the energy level to play a bottom six role and showed flashes of top-six creativity, but not enough to supplant the guys they kept. I liked what I saw out of him Monday, at least. If he makes any kind of impact in the first half at Notre Dame, he’ll still have a chance to make the big club.


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Funniest part here is that Drouin who is shorter, worse skater, hands not even remotely close to TT's went 3rd this year and everyone was saying last year that Teravainen is too small for NHL, yet nobody saying that about Drouin since he has Canadian passport.
Uhh, how about no? Drouins hands are amazing and far better than TT's. I would trade TT all day for Drouin.

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His point still is the same and somehow it's kind of true.

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His point still is the same and somehow it's kind of true.
The only thing that is true in that statement is how no one is saying Drouin is too small for the NHL.

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Here's Teuvo with a sweet pass to tie the game against Canada 2-2.



http://thescore.com/nhl/articles/124...up-lovely-goal

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Here's Teuvo with a sweet pass to tie the game against Canada 2-2.



http://thescore.com/nhl/articles/124...up-lovely-goal
That wasn't Teravainen. He's left-handed, not right-handed.

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08-07-2013, 09:20 PM
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Uhh, how about no? Drouins hands are amazing and far better than TT's. I would trade TT all day for Drouin.
No. There quite close, and I wouldn't say either player has a significant edge over the other in that department.

Drouin plays a more aggressive game than Teravainen and is a better dangler. At this point, yes, he projects as a better offensive player in the NHL - but I don't think the gap is huge and if TT converts to centre well, that could really impact his game. In terms of being a better dangler, that doesn't mean Drouin has better hands, but he's better at getting around players. Part of that could be because he's had to, in order to succeed on smaller rinks. It'll be interesting to see how Teravainen adjusts when he comes over, not having to go through guys as much on the bigger rinks in Europe. I have little doubt he would be able to though.

Nevertheless, you've never been high on Teravainen - I have no idea why - but I don't think it's at all ridiculous to compare Teravainen with Drouin. They're similar players with comparable upsides.

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That wasn't Teravainen. He's left-handed, not right-handed.
* This article originally identified Teuvo Teravainen as having picked up the primary assist on this goal.

Good catch though. Guess I wasn't watching closely enough.

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08-08-2013, 12:42 AM
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Drouin is better at everything... canadian kid played in the CHL scoring lots of goals ended up as #3 overall. They can't be close

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No. There quite close, and I wouldn't say either player has a significant edge over the other in that department.

Drouin plays a more aggressive game than Teravainen and is a better dangler. At this point, yes, he projects as a better offensive player in the NHL - but I don't think the gap is huge and if TT converts to centre well, that could really impact his game. In terms of being a better dangler, that doesn't mean Drouin has better hands, but he's better at getting around players. Part of that could be because he's had to, in order to succeed on smaller rinks. It'll be interesting to see how Teravainen adjusts when he comes over, not having to go through guys as much on the bigger rinks in Europe. I have little doubt he would be able to though.

Nevertheless, you've never been high on Teravainen - I have no idea why - but I don't think it's at all ridiculous to compare Teravainen with Drouin. They're similar players with comparable upsides.
I'm high on TT, I just don't think he will be a franchise elite player like Drouin.

TT is more of a 60-70pt good two way palyer.
Drouin more of a 90-100pt OK two way player

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Drouin is better at everything... canadian kid played in the CHL scoring lots of goals ended up as #3 overall. They can't be close
Riiiiight. That's why.

Like I'm the only one that sees a big difference.

One is rated top 3 out of all the prospects in the world (Drouin) and the other is rated just barely inside the top 50. (On Hockey Futures list, and probably on many other lists too)

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I'm high on TT, I just don't think he will be a franchise elite player like Drouin.

TT is more of a 60-70pt good two way palyer.
Drouin more of a 90-100pt OK two way player
Clearly you have limited viewings of TT, i honestly personally think that there is more star potential in TT than in Drouin. Drouin just won't hoglide in offensive zone at NHL level, he already had quite a bit problems doing it against minors.

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Riiiiight. That's why.

Like I'm the only one that sees a big difference.

One is rated top 3 out of all the prospects in the world (Drouin) and the other is rated just barely inside the top 50. (On Hockey Futures list, and probably on many other lists too)
He's the new kid on the block, i wouldn't rate him any higher than 5th.

Unlike Drouin, TT actually can skate, his first few steps are just something else. Drouin's physique just doesn't allow him to become elite skater, he has "fatty's hips" in other words, he's not the most athletic guy out there. I have few thousand hours of personal experience trying to improve first two steps so i know what i'm talking about.

Anyways, seems like you have already made your mind up so i won't bother doing this any longer.

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Not sure which Drouin you are watching, because he is a pretty good skater..

Craig Button had this to say as well, which backs that up.
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I guess we'll find out in the next few years then. I think TT is far too overrated on this board.


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