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08-06-2013, 05:18 PM
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Because I want to sign a skilled undrafted player? Not seeing the risk.
The signing will put us at 49 or 50, not a good place to be.

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08-06-2013, 05:20 PM
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The signing will put us at 49 or 50, not a good place to be.
Tolchinsky wouldn't count against the limit unless he played in 10 NHL games (which he wouldn't).

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08-06-2013, 06:50 PM
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I'm sorry, but he's not the same size as Valery Kharlamov. He may be listed as the same size, but he's not that big.
He's not 5'8" and he's not playing in the same era.

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08-06-2013, 07:24 PM
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He's not 5'8" and he's not playing in the same era.
Hes also not Kharlamov, which would be the bigger point - no pun intended.

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08-06-2013, 07:44 PM
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He's not 5'8" and he's not playing in the same era.
I think the era was mentioned in the post.

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08-06-2013, 07:45 PM
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Hes also not Kharlamov, which would be the bigger point - no pun intended.
He's not Kharlamov, that was also mentioned.

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08-06-2013, 07:51 PM
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He's not 5'8" and he's not playing in the same era.
I see you know or have seen him personally. If not, then I'll just go by the listed stats on many sites, and by the height he says he is. It does not matter, the kid is still talented.
All you guys seem come across as if you are definitely positive beyond a doubt just by seeing pictures and watching video. Amazing !!! You should all be picture and video scouts, no need for real ones. Ha, ha!!!

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08-06-2013, 07:52 PM
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He's not Kharlamov, that was also mentioned.
Your entire post was a comparison with Kharlamov. I dont understand the need for it. You want to have a conversation about Khalamov, great. For starters, its a slap in the face to put this undrafted kid in the same sentence with a Russian legend.

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08-06-2013, 08:01 PM
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Remember, the kid is young and could still grow 1-2 inches. It happens. The kid is incredibly skilled. I wish Detroit could have brought him in for a tryout.

Skill + passion + drive is better then some plug + with size + couldnt stickhandle a beach ball...
Stickhandling a beach-ball is pretty hard, actually. Have you tried?

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08-06-2013, 08:02 PM
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Your entire post was a comparison with Kharlamov. I dont understand the need for it. You want to have a conversation about Khalamov, great. For starters, its a slap in the face to put this undrafted kid in the same sentence with a Russian legend.
It was a comparison of size, not careers. Also mentioned in the post. You have to learn how to read.

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It was a comparison of size, not careers. Also mentioned in the post. You have to learn how to read.
I'm 5'8", sign me! Kharlamov did it, so I can, too! You're being incredibly defensive about all of this. We can all read. Your comparison was poorly made.

The kid is a midget, and that makes him an EXTREME long shot. Can he make it? Maybe. The odds are not in his favor, which is pretty much the point everyone else has been trying to make.

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08-06-2013, 08:11 PM
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It was a comparison of size, not careers. Also mentioned in the post. You have to learn how to read.
While meandering into their "great skill," "similar skating strides," and "great puck(handling)."

I know how to read. I have the great skill of Shakespeare.

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While meandering into their "great skill," "similar skating strides," and "great puck(handling)."

I know how to read. I have the great skill of Shakespeare.
Comparing styles is not comparing careers.

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08-06-2013, 09:17 PM
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I'm 5'8", sign me! Kharlamov did it, so I can, too! You're being incredibly defensive about all of this. We can all read. Your comparison was poorly made.

The kid is a midget, and that makes him an EXTREME long shot. Can he make it? Maybe. The odds are not in his favor, which is pretty much the point everyone else has been trying to make.
Can you even skate? Have you even played any sort of hockey besides maybe street hockey? If the answer is yes to all, maybe you will be signed.

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08-07-2013, 12:07 AM
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half the people on here take posts WAAAYYY to serious and literal.

this season cant start soon enough so we wont be at each others throats over the height of an undrafted prospect who may or may not get a contract from the NYR.

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He's not 5'8" and he's not playing in the same era.
Yeah, Eliteprospects got him at 5'9. That's not even short in every day life. ST is darn short lol.

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Of course, but if he was stocky, he would have been drafted. Take the chance. He has the skill and the hockey IQ and he has a high end motor.
The thing is, as a 17-18 y/o he put up 51 pts in 62 games in the OHL. He scored against his peers 3 pts in 5 games in the U17 WCH and 4 pts in 7 games in hte U18 WCH.

Size from a offensive point of view is kind of "digital". A 1 or 0. Binary. You have it or you don't. It just don't matter much if you are a midget like Kane or Zucc or a bit bigger but still weak. You can't overpower D's anyway. If they catch you, you are overpowered anyway by 99% of the D's.

ST obviously isn't a star when it comes to playmaking, sniping or whatever either. Its not like he is this super great hockey player who just happens to be extremely small.

What I like about ST is that he is very good at what he is good at, and there are -- some -- room in the game for a player like him. An extreme dynamo. A player who would provide a ton of support in terms of speed and puckhandling for a center/winger on his line. Kind of like Marty Straka.

Without the contract limitation, I would love to take a change on ST. He is a great fun to watch if nothing else. You never know with a kid like that. But...

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half the people on here take posts WAAAYYY to serious and literal.

this season cant start soon enough so we wont be at each others throats over the height of an undrafted prospect who may or may not get a contract from the NYR.
You spelled way wrong. There's only 1 A and 1 Y.

To be fair, this last 3 days has seen a marked increase in serious pants. Oddly enough, Kershaw is MIA.

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You spelled way wrong. There's only 1 A and 1 Y.

To be fair, this last 3 days has seen a marked increase in serious pants. Oddly enough, Kershaw is MIA.
well played, sir. but i have one question--serious pants?

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08-07-2013, 02:18 PM
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The thing is, as a 17-18 y/o he put up 51 pts in 62 games in the OHL. He scored against his peers 3 pts in 5 games in the U17 WCH and 4 pts in 7 games in hte U18 WCH.

Size from a offensive point of view is kind of "digital". A 1 or 0. Binary. You have it or you don't. It just don't matter much if you are a midget like Kane or Zucc or a bit bigger but still weak. You can't overpower D's anyway. If they catch you, you are overpowered anyway by 99% of the D's.

ST obviously isn't a star when it comes to playmaking, sniping or whatever either. Its not like he is this super great hockey player who just happens to be extremely small.

What I like about ST is that he is very good at what he is good at, and there are -- some -- room in the game for a player like him. An extreme dynamo. A player who would provide a ton of support in terms of speed and puckhandling for a center/winger on his line. Kind of like Marty Straka.

Without the contract limitation, I would love to take a change on ST. He is a great fun to watch if nothing else. You never know with a kid like that. But...

Thanks Ola. Voice of reason.

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Jim Cerny had another chat today. This player is not getting a contract from the Rangers.

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Jim Cerny had another chat today. This player is not getting a contract from the Rangers.
Cant believe they're not going to sign the next Valeri Kharlamov. What a wasted opportunity.

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Jim Cerny had another chat today. This player is not getting a contract from the Rangers.
Though you're being a bit more bold than Cerny was.

"I do not believe he is receiving a contract"

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