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08-06-2013, 09:35 PM
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It did get pretty confusing at times. I saw a video about the Sabres' draft a few days ago and it was much more in-depth. I was a little disappointed with the Flyers' video.
I just saw the sabres one. What are you talking about? The flyers one was much more in depth and you actually saw player comparison. I thought the flyers one revealed more than Id ever expect.

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08-06-2013, 09:39 PM
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Holmgren looked pissed that Monahan was dropped from 6th to 11th by his scouts.

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I dislike the demeanor of the director of scouting and he dresses like its his Saturday off.

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08-06-2013, 10:04 PM
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Did someone compare Horvat to Couturier, or was I hearing things?

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08-06-2013, 10:06 PM
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I dislike the demeanor of the director of scouting and he dresses like its his Saturday off.
The Flyers have a lot of hard ***** in management & the front office.
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Did someone compare Horvat to Couturier, or was I hearing things?
They compared Monahan to Couturier.

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Is this basically the Flyers version of Oil Change? Or is it just a one time thing?

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I'm really surprised how high they had Morin. But when you hear them talk about upside it does make sense. Thanks for posting.
It was good to see they felt as good about Sam as I did. Glad they still love the heart and soul guys with talent like I do. If you want to be a True Flyer you need that in your make up or it sure helps. And they had Hagg as a late 1st rounder. I liked the show.

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So unorganized

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Yeah, the Flyers don't seem high on Pulock whatsoever.
Interesting because IIRC Holmgren brought up Pulock in a predraft interview. Just blowing smoke, I guess.

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08-06-2013, 10:49 PM
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I just saw the sabres one. What are you talking about? The flyers one was much more in depth and you actually saw player comparison. I thought the flyers one revealed more than Id ever expect.
My mistake. I was thinking about a St Louis Blues one from a few years ago that i saw the other day. Ours was definitely more in depth than the Sabres one.

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08-06-2013, 11:09 PM
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My mistake. I was thinking about a St Louis Blues one from a few years ago that i saw the other day. Ours was definitely more in depth than the Sabres one.

do you have a link for the blues one? im curious.

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08-06-2013, 11:37 PM
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do you have a link for the blues one? im curious.
http://video.blues.nhl.com/videocent...ed-share-video

I couldn't find part 1, sorry.

This is from the 2007 draft, and apparently they were very high on Voracek.

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08-07-2013, 12:05 AM
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Yeah, the Flyers don't seem high on Pulock whatsoever.
I think he is the guy at 17.

Adding to my post from the other thread with hockeyfreak's confirmations in Italics and my additional guesses in bold

1. MacKinnon
2. Jones
3. Drouin
4. Lindholm
5. Barkov
6. Morin
7. Mueller
8. Zadorov
9. Nurse
10. Ristolainen
11. Monahan
12. Morrissey
13. Gauthier
14. Horvat
15. Lazar

16. Mantha
17. Pulock

18.
19. Domi
20. Nichushkin
21. Rychel
22. De La Rose
23. McCarron
24. Hartman
25. Hagg

26.
27.
28.
29.
30.

31. Zykov
33. Compher
41. Diaby
42. Dauphin
43. Heatherington

48. McCoshen
50. Lekhonen
51. Bjorkstrand
54. Dano
55. Baptiste
56. LaPlante

57. Lodge

65. Santini (Steve)
66. Carrier (William)
67. Gabriel (Kurtis)
76. Elie (Remi)
85. Tambellini (Adam)

97. Lindberg (Tobias)
102. Fasching (Hudson)
104. Andrighetto (Sven)
105. Salvaggio (Jason)
120. Brown (Josh)

131. Chase (Greg)
133. Crus-Rydberg (Viktor)
141. Tolchinksy (Sergei)
143. Etchegary (Kurt)
150. Clifton (Connor)

161. Lomberg (Ryan)
162. Rauhauser (Alec)
164. Cave (Colby)
165. Hart (Jayden)

Will try to add more if i can decipher this puzzle!

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08-07-2013, 02:38 AM
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http://video.blues.nhl.com/videocent...ed-share-video

I couldn't find part 1, sorry.

This is from the 2007 draft, and apparently they were very high on Voracek.
If you guys want to see a laugh, watch the Blue Jackets behind the scenes video.



Towards the end of the video they excitingly talk about Brule and Zherdev on their powerplay.

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08-07-2013, 06:56 AM
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Interesting they had Shinkaruk at #22 when even though he went #24 overall, he was thought of a steal at that point. Obviously more than one team didn't have him as high as thought.

Of course, that's why he slid. If more teams had him higher, he would not have fallen. However, this does not change the fact that per consensus lists (publicized), he was ranked an average of 10 spots higher. Remains to be seen if the team lists were more accurate, or the consensus.

PHI really seemed to covet upside with their list, and not so much polish or even production. It was more about who would develop long term. Morin was a very good gamble in this regard.

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Of course, that's why he slid. If more teams had him higher, he would not have fallen. However, this does not change the fact that per consensus lists (publicized), he was ranked an average of 10 spots higher. Remains to be seen if the team lists were more accurate, or the consensus.

PHI really seemed to covet upside with their list, and not so much polish or even production. It was more about who would develop long term. Morin was a very good gamble in this regard.
Yea let’s face it when you are buying these kids outside the first handful of players you are purchasing what "you hope and pray they will become" not what they already are.

This video is great because it shows about what I expected a war room to be like. Lots of back and forth and you need the conflict for it to work. Politics is also in play as it appears some voices have more say and one would assume that is due to merit? I wonder if Holmgren stayed out of the room by design? Pronger was a bit quite in the video.

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08-07-2013, 10:08 AM
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Can't believe how much info they released about their final rankings. Interesting. And this video gives you great insight how things can "snowball" on a certain player. A pocket of a team's scouts likes him and it starts to spread. Probably a reason why many guys end up getting picked higher than they should.

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Interesting to see Gauthier ranked a bit higher on another team's list than where he was picked. Hopefully a few more teams are able to release behind the scenes stuff

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08-07-2013, 10:32 AM
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Interesting to see Gauthier ranked a bit higher on another team's list than where he was picked. Hopefully a few more teams are able to release behind the scenes stuff
Same can be said for a guy like Mueller. I knew the Flyers liked him, but he's ranked a good 10 spots ahead of where he ended up going.

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08-07-2013, 10:37 AM
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I wish teams would do more stuff like this during the draft like St. Louis did. It's interesting to hear what they think of another dream drafting a certain player.

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I think 116 is Thompson(Keaton).

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08-07-2013, 10:49 AM
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Just surprising to see a team commit to d like that, and drop monahan so far. Time will tell of course, and maybe in the back of their mind they don't think monahan will be there anyway? If monahan had dropped that far and they had taken mueller? I'm sure mueller has a shot but I would've been pretty upset but no one pays me to make these calls. Zadorov at 8 is interesting, I was wondering what teams thought of him. I liked what I saw of him.

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Can't believe how much info they released about their final rankings. Interesting. And this video gives you great insight how things can "snowball" on a certain player. A pocket of a team's scouts likes him and it starts to spread. Probably a reason why many guys end up getting picked higher than they should.
100% agree with the snowball effect. One of the problems is segmentation of scouts into regions with "some" overlap. That could lead to some very interesting pitch battles when it comes to weighting of prospects between regions. you can see how the director of this department and the individual scouts could make or break your organization.

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According to phillie draft staff they have theyre doubts on Nurse. So in theyre mind Edmonton missed on draft again

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Sounds like Paul H was high on Monahan but the scouts dropped him because he is very much like Couts.

They were high on D (obviously)

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