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08-04-2013, 06:28 PM
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Is this a string year for QC ?
You have some top end talent that should have a good Q career, but the pool isn't as deep as last year. There are more diamonds in the rough. However, there will be better goaltenders in the upcoming draft.

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08-04-2013, 08:06 PM
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Hockey Nova Scotia is still an absolute mess



Seems like every year in NS there are a lot of promising kids coming into midget and few pan out. Hopefully this group is an exception!
I do not think it is a mess....I think with the combine bantam league now making it a major bantam league that helps players develop well....not really sure where the mess is.....the biggest mess is with the program of excellence in the maritimes IMO....

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I do not think it is a mess....I think with the combine bantam league now making it a major bantam league that helps players develop well....not really sure where the mess is.....the biggest mess is with the program of excellence in the maritimes IMO....
Have you ever been to any Hockey Nova Scotia training program (refereeing, coaching, checking clinic, goalie clinic)? BRUTAL BRUTAL BRUTAL lol

A lot of misguided power in minor hockey in NS as well. I've been to a provincial tournament where a player got kicked out of the game, had to miss 2 games waiting for word on a suspension, and then get told the player got 1 game

My favorite quote in Hockey Nova Scotia history was when they took checking out of peewee and they said "We're taking steps to get into the 21st century" when I know first hand they introduced checking to peewee in NS in 2002

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08-05-2013, 07:30 AM
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Have you ever been to any Hockey Nova Scotia training program (refereeing, coaching, checking clinic, goalie clinic)? BRUTAL BRUTAL BRUTAL lol

A lot of misguided power in minor hockey in NS as well. I've been to a provincial tournament where a player got kicked out of the game, had to miss 2 games waiting for word on a suspension, and then get told the player got 1 game

My favorite quote in Hockey Nova Scotia history was when they took checking out of peewee and they said "We're taking steps to get into the 21st century" when I know first hand they introduced checking to peewee in NS in 2002
ya i agree the provincal teams and program of excellence are just terrible....there are players picked for the teams who are not the best in the province leaving other kids not on the provincal team who deserve to be there and the coaches for those teams are laughable at best. if they want to get up with the 21st centeray they should improve their program of excellence and hockey nova scotia in general LOL.........

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08-05-2013, 04:58 PM
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ya i agree the provincal teams and program of excellence are just terrible....there are players picked for the teams who are not the best in the province leaving other kids not on the provincal team who deserve to be there and the coaches for those teams are laughable at best. if they want to get up with the 21st centeray they should improve their program of excellence and hockey nova scotia in general LOL.........
Just going to throw this out there ...

If HNS is bad at picking players for High Performance programme, is there a provincial body that you feel 'Gets it right' and what things do they do that HSN does not do? ( serious question, not nitpicking or defending anyone here )

Why cant Hockey Canada just set the standard since the prov HPP programs are supposed to be designed to funnel the top kids into U17/18/20 programs ? Do other provinces have issues as well?

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08-05-2013, 06:20 PM
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Just going to throw this out there ...

If HNS is bad at picking players for High Performance programme, is there a provincial body that you feel 'Gets it right' and what things do they do that HSN does not do? ( serious question, not nitpicking or defending anyone here )

Why cant Hockey Canada just set the standard since the prov HPP programs are supposed to be designed to funnel the top kids into U17/18/20 programs ? Do other provinces have issues as well?
well i think every province is going to have something to nit pick at with the selection but Atlantic Canada so far seems to not have caught up to the times and the coaches even picked really are really terrible...I can not think of things right now of what has gone on but I do know every year im scratching my head on why a guy did not make a team and im not the only one thinking that...kids who are question marks on the team usually come out to have some connections with guys in the program of excellence.....even coaches in games at the U17s lets say I was at a game with atlantic they were down by 1 goal the coach puts the 4th line out with 30 seconds left (the 4th line had a kid on it who was connected as a great friend with the coaches son) just a lot needs to be looked over by hoceky nova scotia.

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08-05-2013, 06:54 PM
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well i think every province is going to have something to nit pick at with the selection but Atlantic Canada so far seems to not have caught up to the times and the coaches even picked really are really terrible...I can not think of things right now of what has gone on but I do know every year im scratching my head on why a guy did not make a team and im not the only one thinking that...kids who are question marks on the team usually come out to have some connections with guys in the program of excellence.....even coaches in games at the U17s lets say I was at a game with atlantic they were down by 1 goal the coach puts the 4th line out with 30 seconds left (the 4th line had a kid on it who was connected as a great friend with the coaches son) just a lot needs to be looked over by hoceky nova scotia.
I think the major issue i would have with that kind of problem would be that there probably isnt a substantial amount of evidence showing a non-hpp player getting selection or advancing beyond the top HPP players - i would have to go back and do some digging to see if that is really the case, and if so it would mean some great players are really being missed or missing opportunity. I guess we are squabbling over the 4th line players either way. Although, to the players involved, that can be a pretty big deal when it comes to jr draft time or potential pro upside.

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I think the major issue i would have with that kind of problem would be that there probably isnt a substantial amount of evidence showing a non-hpp player getting selection or advancing beyond the top HPP players - i would have to go back and do some digging to see if that is really the case, and if so it would mean some great players are really being missed or missing opportunity. I guess we are squabbling over the 4th line players either way. Although, to the players involved, that can be a pretty big deal when it comes to jr draft time or potential pro upside.
just line Nic Blanchard not getting selected to the U17 team last year...he could have been a top 2 line player....

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Also take into consideration how many kids seemed to have elite talent and flopped HARD out of Atlantic Canada. I can name a few from just the last few years in guys like Ben Duffy, Pat Cormier, Steve Anthony, Michael Lyle.

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just line Nic Blanchard not getting selected to the U17 team last year...he could have been a top 2 line player....
OK ok ... you got me with him ... but i digress, not getting a u17 nod is a mistake yes, but will it really hurt his potential? Do the Titan change what they think about him because of being left off ?

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OK ok ... you got me with him ... but i digress, not getting a u17 nod is a mistake yes, but will it really hurt his potential? Do the Titan change what they think about him because of being left off ?
I think the point is that they screw up on identifying talent and nurturing it properly. If they miss it at that level, where the kid is playing in a pretty significant league and basically hiding in plain sight, what are they missing at the lower levels

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Who's Mike Lyle ?

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08-06-2013, 05:50 PM
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Who's Mike Lyle ?
Played for the cb screaming eagles last season, undrafted. He was once considered to be close to Nathan Mackinnon pre midget but fell a bit in the q draft despite excellent stats as a rookie in the nsmmhl. I guess his drive wasnt there but that's just what I heard and have no ecidence to support this claim.

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Played for the cb screaming eagles last season, undrafted. He was once considered to be close to Nathan Mackinnon pre midget but fell a bit in the q draft despite excellent stats as a rookie in the nsmmhl. I guess his drive wasnt there but that's just what I heard and have no ecidence to support this claim.
this kid had the tools to be just as good as Nathan Mackinnon....in Bantam those two were equal in talent actually Lyle out scored nathan in provincials...but come major midget lyle was super lazy, did not do the off ice training, was lazy on the ice, seemed very disintressted in the game it looked like....nathan was training hard and playing hard and it took him to great heights....Lyle is just another story of what he could have been and not what he is now.

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1. Keith Getson—F—Western Hurricanes 6’00/180 29 50 31 81
2. Mitchell Balmas—F—Breton Sport 6’01/168 20 21 16 37
3. Luke Green—D—Mobil 1 Barons 6’00/155 31 17 41 58
4. Evan Fitzpatrick—G—Newbridge 6’02/170 10 05 2.56 .942
5. Michael Campoli—D—LSL Esp 6’02/180 28 06 23 29
6. Hunter Moreau—F—West Island Royals 5’08/162 25 29 14 43
7. Michael O’Leary—F—ACCEL Hawks 6’00/155 29 17 29 46
8. Samuel Girard—D—Espoire Lac St Jean 0’00/000 03 00 03 03
9. Barrett Dachyshyn—F—ACCEL Hawks 6’03/170 20 20 15 35
10. Ryan Brushett—F—Verdun 0’00/000 15 15 06 21
11. Nicolas Patry-Gingras—D—Gatineau MM 6’00/171 31 02 07 09
12. Felix Lauzon—F—Magog MM 5’08/162 33 06 14 20
13. Reilly Pickard—G—ACCEL Hawks 5’11/168 08 02 1.20 .939
14. Samuel Guilbault—F—Esperviers 0’00/000 30 28 20 48
15. Charles-Olivier Ouimet—Conquerants 5’06/138 27 20 15 35
16. Mathieu Sevigny—F—Gouv Rive Nord 0’00/000 19 19 19 38
17. Gabriel Sylvestre—D—Conquerants 6’01/158 15 02 06 08
18. Andrew Murphy—D—Notre Dame 0’00/000 00 00 00 00
19. Sam Harvey—G—Espoi Lac St Jean 5’10/150
20. Charles Taillon—F—Seigneurs de Beaub 5’10/170 20 20 17 37
21. Lucas Thierus—F—Seigneurs 5’06/142 14 13 09 22
22. Sandro Silvestre—G—West Island 0’00/000 07 02 1.53
23. Brett Crossley—F—Shattuck Bantam 0’00/000 23 14 12 26
24. Matt Green—F—Mobil 1 Barons 5’10/140 29 25 37 62
25. Tyler Hylland—F—Suro 0’00/000 22 25 14 39
26. Connor Peveril—F—Newbridge 5’09/142 31 33 33 66
27. Yan Doggett—F—Pionners 0’00/000 11 11 06 17
28. Charles-Louis Lemay-F-Conquerants 5’09/139 16 10 08 18
29. Taylor LeBlanc—F—Fredricton MM 6’00/154 20 02 07 09
30. Peter Abbondonato--F--Laval 0'00/000 23 16 17 33
Several players from Québec at U16 camp in Boisbriand are not on this list ?? Scoutman are you doing most of you`re scouting outside Quebec ??

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Several players from Québec at U16 camp in Boisbriand are not on this list ?? Scoutman are you doing most of you`re scouting outside Quebec ??
such as what player? I do my scouting in quebec and maritimes, but travel as well and see teams in tournaments from prep to really any major league.

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such as what player? I do my scouting in quebec and maritimes, but travel as well and see teams in tournaments from prep to really any major league.
I find naming the top 4 players prospects outside Quebec a little surprising !!

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I find naming the top 4 players prospects outside Quebec a little surprising !!
???? not sure what your getting at....are you saying it is crazy that the top 4 prospects in the draft could come from the maritimes lol?

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???? not sure what your getting at....are you saying it is crazy that the top 4 prospects in the draft could come from the maritimes lol?
Has that ever happen before

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Has that ever happen before
2008:
1. Brandon Gormley (PEI)
2. Sean Couturier (NB)
3. Brandon Hynes (NL)
4. Cédrick Henley (QC)
5. Ben Duffy (NS)

4/5

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2008:
1. Brandon Gormley (PEI)
2. Sean Couturier (NB)
3. Brandon Hynes (NL)
4. Cédrick Henley (QC)
5. Ben Duffy (NS)

4/5
I guess it happens every once in a while. Since 2008 look at the top 5 , every year its majority players coming out of Quebec.
Soutman thinks its going to happen again !! I guess we will have to wait and see if he was correct !!

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1. Brandon Gormley (PEI)
2. Sean Couturier (NB)
3. Brandon Hynes (NL)
4. Cédrick Henley (QC)
5. Ben Duffy (NS)

4/5
2005 was 4/6

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2005 was 4/6
Wow impressive 4/6 !!

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I guess it happens every once in a while. Since 2008 look at the top 5 , every year its majority players coming out of Quebec.
Soutman thinks its going to happen again !! I guess we will have to wait and see if he was correct !!
It's an early list..........

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It's an early list..........
Based on the U16 camp, This is my Québec EARLY prédictions top 20 list

1-CAMPOLI 11-NEVEU
2-MOREAU 12-PATRY-GINGRAS
3-GIRARD 13-OUIMET
4-GUILBAULT 14-BEAUDIN
5-BRUSCHETT 15-SILVESTRE
6-SYLVESTRE 16-GAGNON
7-LAUZON 17-BOURQUE
8-HARVEY 18-CORBEIL
9-THIÉRUS 19-ABBODONATO
10-SÉVIGNY 20-KATERINAKIS

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