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07-06-2013, 10:24 PM
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There was a good article in finnish sport magazine Urheilulehti about Lehkonen.

For example former speedskater Lauri Paalasmaa helps him with physique training.

Don't know if those training methods comes from there.

Playing in Montreal Artturi says:

"If I someday play there, it would be awesome. If everything goes well, fans are on our side. If it don't go well, there is national sorrow. It gives some kind of meaningfulness."


PS. It would be awesome if some finn who has good english could translate some main points in that article. My english is so poor that i don't wanna even try.
A lot of native English speakers on this board can't even form coherent sentences such as yours, so I think you're doing a great job.

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Maybe he becomes the Teravainen pick we missed out on in a trade up last year. They had practically the same stats... and Teuvo was a year older.
Teuvo is miles better. Better skater, more agile and much better playmaker.

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Teuvo is miles better. Better skater, more agile and much better playmaker.
He's not miles better by any means. They're not the same kind of players. Teravainen is a better skater but it's not like Lekhonen is Hal Gill here... Also in the same way you assess this I could say Lekhonen is much better at shooting the puck than Teravainen.

The fact that TT went in the first round last year doesnt make him any better than Lekhonen. I'd AL would be a first rounder in the last draft too. Picking him at 55 was a treat. There surely was a lot more hype around Teuvo due to the poor draft and how TT liked TT rumour. Really, there's not much difference.

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Maybe he becomes the Teravainen pick we missed out on in a trade up last year. They had practically the same stats... and Teuvo was a year older.
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Teuvo is miles better. Better skater, more agile and much better playmaker.
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He's not miles better by any means. They're not the same kind of players. Teravainen is a better skater but it's not like Lekhonen is Hal Gill here... Also in the same way you assess this I could say Lekhonen is much better at shooting the puck than Teravainen.

The fact that TT went in the first round last year doesnt make him any better than Lekhonen. I'd AL would be a first rounder in the last draft too. Picking him at 55 was a treat. There surely was a lot more hype around Teuvo due to the poor draft and how TT liked TT rumour. Really, there's not much difference.
I agree with this post of Mrb1p and here is my reasoning. On the prospect board there was discussion on which one has the higher potential, TT or Lehkonen, and the posts went like this:

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T.Teräväinen or A.Lehkonen.. who has a higher potential?
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Questions like this just make our fanbase look bad. Come on dude.
Now, I can see where Marc is coming from. Teravainen thread on the prospect board might not be the best place for this question. And add to that the other one is a few weeks ago drafted late 2nd rounder. But here is what I posted. And this post fits well as a reply to the post of DekeLikeYouMeanIt.

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It isn't as black and white as it seems. I think that Lehkonen is actually one of the rare gamebreaking types within the Finnish prospects. He is a goalscorer, and a shifty puck mover. He is a similar boom or bust style of prospect as Armia, but with totally different skill set. I think his ceiling is actually sky high, but the chance to reach it is less than that of Teravainen. But I think we should remember that while Teravainen was almost 2013 eligible, Lehkonen was almost 2014 eligible. So comparing their 17 year old seasons in FEL:

Teravainen, 40 games 18 points, 0.45PPG
Lehkonen, 45 games 30 points, 0.67PPG

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Teravainen, 6 games 8 points, 1.33PPG
Lehkonen, 7 games 10 points, 1.43PPG

It doesn't seem as sure. They are of the same size (Lehkonen being a year younger), they both lack top speed but are elusive players.

The thing that makes Teravainen the better prospect in my mind is that he is more of a "sure thing" while Lehkonen has that bust potential only a few prospects of his talent level have.

So all in all, nobody is making their fan base look bad for making the honest question. I don't have an opinion of Teravainen's potential, but I can definitely see why a Habs fan would want to ask that question. And the answer is not as black and white as intuition on their prospect status would suggest.

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Horrible pick with Diaby still on the board. Diaby was a clear and present need. Another smurf was not.

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Horrible pick with Diaby still on the board. Diaby was a clear and present need. Another smurf was not.
I disagree wholeheartedly.

Artturi is a hell of a talent, and the conversations I've had with scouts are nothing but great things.

He's already playing with men, and won rookie of the year, Timmins was impressed with that feat to name a few.

Diaby would have been a good choice, but I can assure you Leks is a great pick, and many were shocked he fell to 55.

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Horrible pick with Diaby still on the board. Diaby was a clear and present need. Another smurf was not.
I'll just assume that it was sarcasm and not another guy who knows nothing about Lehkonen except his size.

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Horrible pick with Diaby still on the board. Diaby was a clear and present need. Another smurf was not.
Sarcasm ?

I hope, saying Lehkonen is a horrible pick, is horrible in itself...

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Horrible pick with Diaby still on the board. Diaby was a clear and present need. Another smurf was not.
Diaby is at least three years away from contributing to an NHL team, if he does at all. Who knows where the habs needs will be at that point

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Horrible pick with Diaby still on the board. Diaby was a clear and present need. Another smurf was not.
Haha. bet you loved that moroz pick last year

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Damn it. We should have taken Diaby with this pick. We do ont need another Collberg or Kristo. We already have them AND Gallagher. I am losing faith in Timmins with this draft.
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Sarcasm ?

I hope, saying Lehkonen is a horrible pick, is horrible in itself...
Not sure it is sarcasm. That first post was from the draft day. Seems like this guy just really REALLY doesn't like the Lehkonen pick.

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I wouldn't want to put any extra stress on our prospects, so if they are reading this go to another thread. I can envision a Hab PP in the future with Subban & A Gally on the points, with A.Lehkonen, S.Collberg and M.McCarron up front this line will be named the (Lock and Load Boyz) after about ten games on the PP unit.

A.Gally & Subban will be Asst.Capt.'s and deflect their participation to the youngsters great work together, a normal trait amongst the Habs great team of the near future.

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Horrible pick with Diaby still on the board. Diaby was a clear and present need. Another smurf was not.
We should have drafted nothing but Conor Crisps.

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We should have drafted nothing but Conor Crisps.


Whoever made this is a genius

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Alright.. I'm not McCarron much for the direction this thread is taking - this thread is just getting silly. Can we get back on a serious note please?

It's amazing how many classic songs have been written about this year's draft picks.

- McCarron My Wayward Son - A Kansas classic

- Paul McCartney wrote this classic in 1976."Someone's knocking at the door, somebody's ringing the bell, Someone's knocking at the door, somebody's ringing the bell...do me a favour, open the door, and Lekhonen."

- Not to be outdone, that same year his former bandmate George Harrison penned "The Ballad of Sir Connor Crisp (Let it Roll)".

- And we can't forget Elvis' tear jerking ode to Sven - "Another little baby child is born... Andrighetto...Andrighetto."

- Sinatra of course - "But more much more than this, I did it Reway."

- University of Texas' fight song - "There's a de la rose in Texas, that I am going to see".

And let's not kid ourselves - we all know who Pearl Jam's classic "Jeremy" is about...

- Dean Martin crooned about Zach too - "Fucale, oh oh, Zach Fucale, oh oh oh oh."

One other note on Fucale - I think his nickname should be "Sweet" - Sweet Fucale.

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Alright.. I'm not McCarron much for the direction this thread is taking - this thread is just getting silly. Can we get back on a serious note please?

It's amazing how many classic songs have been written about this year's draft picks.

- McCarron My Wayward Son - A Kansas classic

- Paul McCartney wrote this classic in 1976."Someone's knocking at the door, somebody's ringing the bell, Someone's knocking at the door, somebody's ringing the bell...do me a favour, open the door, and Lekhonen."

- Not to be outdone, that same year his former bandmate George Harrison penned "The Ballad of Sir Connor Crisp (Let it Roll)".

- And we can't forget Elvis' tear jerking ode to Sven - "Another little baby child is born... Andrighetto...Andrighetto."

- Sinatra of course - "But more much more than this, I did it Reway."

- University of Texas' fight song - "There's a de la rose in Texas, that I am going to see".

And let's not kid ourselves - we all know who Pearl Jam's classic "Jeremy" is about...

- Dean Martin crooned about Zach too - "Fucale, oh oh, Zach Fucale, oh oh oh oh."

One other note on Fucale - I think his nickname should be "Sweet" - Sweet Fucale.
You had me at Reway

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Alright.. I'm not McCarron much for the direction this thread is taking - this thread is just getting silly. Can we get back on a serious note please?

It's amazing how many classic songs have been written about this year's draft picks.

- McCarron My Wayward Son - A Kansas classic

- Paul McCartney wrote this classic in 1976."Someone's knocking at the door, somebody's ringing the bell, Someone's knocking at the door, somebody's ringing the bell...do me a favour, open the door, and Lekhonen."

- Not to be outdone, that same year his former bandmate George Harrison penned "The Ballad of Sir Connor Crisp (Let it Roll)".

- And we can't forget Elvis' tear jerking ode to Sven - "Another little baby child is born... Andrighetto...Andrighetto."

- Sinatra of course - "But more much more than this, I did it Reway."

- University of Texas' fight song - "There's a de la rose in Texas, that I am going to see".

And let's not kid ourselves - we all know who Pearl Jam's classic "Jeremy" is about...

- Dean Martin crooned about Zach too - "Fucale, oh oh, Zach Fucale, oh oh oh oh."

One other note on Fucale - I think his nickname should be "Sweet" - Sweet Fucale.
Uh, that caught me off guard, thanks for the good laugh during my lunch.

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Haha. bet you loved that moroz pick last year
I loved that pick and Oscar Dansk pick too then the Habs pick I thought they blackmailed Edm. & CBJ to get Collberg. I have to say Jarmo wouldn't have passed on Collberg, just like Dano he knows his European players. Getting Collberg in the 2nd will have a lot of GM's kicking themselves for that one, in the next few years. Lehkonen at #55 was another stroke that looks like a real kicker too.

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I loved that pick and Oscar Dansk pick too then the Habs pick I thought they blackmailed Edm. & CBJ to get Collberg. I have to say Jarmo wouldn't have passed on Collberg, just like Dano he knows his European players. Getting Collberg in the 2nd will have a lot of GM's kicking themselves for that one, in the next few years. Lehkonen at #55 was another stroke that looks like a real kicker too.
Again im pretty sure the combination of size and concussion history made hesitate lots of gms since its a deep draft they might as well take someone with lower potential but bigger and no medical history. Otherwise undoubtly 1st round talent.

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Prospect training.

Crazy training.

http://www.habsfuture.com/2013/08/ar...ig-league.html

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Crazy, and he is only 160 pounds! Yikes.

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I posted the same videos earlier in this thread. That is awful training, and likely the reason he is built like a 10 year old girl.

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This is great training, he's training the right way, the smart way. His training reminds me of some of GSP's training routines. I don't know why you think this is awful training... do you want him to do bicep curls and bench press all day and eat like a mad man to rack up the lbs (mostly fat)?
Literally the only thing in that video that would be a staple in GSP's routines are the depth jumps. I would love for you to find me a single video of GSP doing an inverted single explosive leg press supported by a bosu ball on a progressive resistance fan driven machine. What on earth is that supposed to do, especially for someone who I very much doubt could squat his own body weight below parallel?

What would I have him do? Squats, deads, presses, cleans, pulls, pullups, sprints, jumps, sled pushes, and flexibility. A lot like what Patches does, actually. And a lot closer to what GSP does than anything in that video.

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Horrible pick with Diaby still on the board. Diaby was a clear and present need. Another smurf was not.
I'll take a skill guy any day over a 6'5" pylon who'll be a #6 d-man at best...great example of size obsession. Do you think Chicago is a better team with Kane out and B.Boyle in?

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What it really reminds me of is the way Troy Polamalu's training routine


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