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08-13-2013, 03:38 AM
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08-13-2013, 04:25 AM
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yesterday in the interview it was said that CSKA will have an arena and not on Cherkizovskiy, plan to build by 2015 (doubt it's feasible)
Can you give me a link to that interview, because in his recent interview Gimaev said that with 90% possibility it will be located in Chirkizon, and it will be at least 20k seater.

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08-14-2013, 10:32 AM
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Can you give me a link to that interview, because in his recent interview Gimaev said that with 90% possibility it will be located in Chirkizon, and it will be at least 20k seater.
oh, man, that was a while ago, doubt I can look this up now.

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08-14-2013, 11:26 AM
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It was written by many guys that Togliatti is a relatively small town for Russian standards so I guess 6,000 arena for VHL is perfectly okay.
There are smaller cities in the KHL with bigger arenas and no hockey history - case in point, Vladivostok.

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CSKA`s arena will be huge by european standarts,good that CSKA`s leadership has grand plans.

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CSKA`s arena will be huge by european standarts,good that CSKA`s leadership has grand plans.
Despite being one of the best KHL teams in the first 5 years of the competition their attendance at home was mostly terrible. Do you think this will change just because of a new arena?

What was the main reason for people not to come? Tickets too expansive (think someone in the forum here said so)? No interest in CSKA hockey by general population?

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Despite being one of the best KHL teams in the first 5 years of the competition their attendance at home was mostly terrible. Do you think this will change just because of a new arena?

What was the main reason for people not to come? Tickets too expansive (think someone in the forum here said so)? No interest in CSKA hockey by general population?
I believe that in any city the attendance will rise tremendously with new arenas, especially Moscow. Look at the Minsk situation - average attendance 3k in a city 1.000.000+ people before 2010, and 14-15k now. I've been there many times, believe me the atmosphere is fantastic. =) The only thing that changed is the arena, they still play awful, no play-offs, but HUGE attendance.

It is a shame that nobody in Russia actually understand this.

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I believe that in any city the attendance will rise tremendously with new arenas, especially Moscow. Look at the Minsk situation - average attendance 3k in a city 1.000.000+ people before 2010, and 14-15k now. I've been there many times, believe me the atmosphere is fantastic. =) The only thing that changed is the arena, they still play awful, no play-offs, but HUGE attendance.

It is a shame that nobody in Russia actually understand this.
After rethinking it, you might be right. Eisbären Berlin had around 4,000 before playing in O2 World and now they have 14000 (more than 3 times the number) and they were alread winning championships in their old arena.

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Exactly my thoughts and I really like it.

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I know a lot of people in MOscow don't go to CSKA games due to traffic and also how poor the arena is as far as entertainment, food, seating etc.
but I hardly see the attendance going up significantly. It may go up to avg of 6-7 k.

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The amount of growth in attendance will depend on the actual size of the arena. With good marketing they'll be able to get 60-70% attendance in the first seasons. Bigger arena will allow them more room for season ticket pricing, I think some bundles like season ticket + parking space will become a huge hit, also the kids and family discounts should be the main focus as well. And if they could stir away from the "sports arena" labeling and find a way around the Moscow's beer restrictions it will help a lot.

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08-21-2013, 03:17 AM
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Donbass Donetsk

Kalmius Arena
Capacity: 12800 seats
Cost: 60 mln euros
Completion: February 2015

Progress - August 21, 2013:


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http://www.championat.com/hockey/new...j-stadion.html

Dynamo Moscow will also build a new arena apparently.

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08-22-2013, 10:17 AM
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Hello, this is VTB arena he's talking about...

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08-22-2013, 10:17 AM
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Dynamo Moscow will also build a new arena apparently.
I think they are already building it. The new arena's name is VTB Arena.

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I think they are already building it. The new arena's name is VTB Arena.
Yes, and VTB (+ current ownership of both clubs) has a vision to merge soccer/hockey Dynamo´s to one organisation. Build new stadium/arena. That all makes sense.

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It will be cool if they finish it by 2016. Because if there's a great marketable occasion to bring KHL Winter Classic to Moscow, it's Dynamo vs. CSKA at the Dynamo stadium during the 2016-17 season.

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08-22-2013, 10:55 AM
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It was written by many guys that Togliatti is a relatively small town for Russian standards so I guess 6,000 arena for VHL is perfectly okay.
The population of more than 700,000 puts it in the same general category as several current KHL cities.

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08-22-2013, 11:04 AM
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The population of more than 700,000 puts it in the same general category as several current KHL cities.
Not even saying that the Samara-Tolyatti metropolitan area has larger population than Latvia.

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Hello, this is VTB arena he's talking about...
I had early morning brain cramp, completely forgot about VTB project.

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The population of more than 700,000 puts it in the same general category as several current KHL cities.
Don't compare apples and oranges. North American cities have widespread suburbs, and those encompass much more people easily in their metropolitan areas. In Russia big cities tend to not have suburbs.

For example, Chicago has less than 3 million people, but if you add its immediate vicinity it has almost 10 million.

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08-23-2013, 01:21 AM
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Don't compare apples and oranges. North American cities have widespread suburbs, and those encompass much more people easily in their metropolitan areas. In Russia big cities tend to not have suburbs.

For example, Chicago has less than 3 million people, but if you add its immediate vicinity it has almost 10 million.
He was comparing Yekaterinburg with other Russian cities. Togliatti is no 18 in Russia by inhabitants.

But you're right about NHL markets, off course.

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08-23-2013, 02:45 AM
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Несмотря на то, одна из лучших команд КХЛ в первые 5 лет конкурса их посещение на дому, в основном, был страшен. Вы думаете, это может измениться только потому, что на новой арене?

Что было главной причиной, почему люди не приходят? Билеты слишком дорого (думаю, что кто-то в форуме вот так сказал? Никакого интереса в ЦСКА по хоккею населения?
In football CSKA one of the lowest attendance. In Moscow, love the brand "Spartak".

P.S From the history of the USSR: Spartak is a people's team, CSKA is the administrative resource.

http://www.sports.ru/tribuna/blogs/m...ff/497195.html

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Don't compare apples and oranges. North American cities have widespread suburbs, and those encompass much more people easily in their metropolitan areas. In Russia big cities tend to not have suburbs.

For example, Chicago has less than 3 million people, but if you add its immediate vicinity it has almost 10 million.
What in the hell are you talking about?

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