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08-18-2013, 11:41 AM
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Here is the current status in Rangerland

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS 2013 (1)
Nr Pos PlayerCaphit 2013 Status Team Drafted
1 F Stepan, Derek (ELC)$875,000 QualifiedNew York Rangers/NHLR2 #51 NYR (2008)


PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS 2013-2014 (47)
NEW YORK RANGERS (23)
Nr Pos Player Caphit Status Team Drafted
1 F Brassard, Derick $3,200,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #6 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)
2 D Del Zotto, M. $2,550,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #20 NYR (2008)
3 F Kreider, Chris (ELC) $1,325,000* RFA 2014New York Rangers/NHL R1 #19 NYR (2009)
4 F Zuccarello, Mats $1,150,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
5 D Moore, John (ELC) $965,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #21 Columbus Blue Jackets (2009)
6 G Lundqvist, Henrik $6,875,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #208 NYR (2000)
7 F Callahan, Ryan $4,275,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R4 #127 NYR (2004)
8 D Girardi, Dan $3,325,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
9 D Stralman, Anton $1,700,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #216 Toronto (2005)
10 F Boyle, Brian $1,700,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #26 Los Angeles (2003)
11 F Pyatt, Taylor $1,550,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #8 New York Isles (1999)
12 F Pouliot, Benoit $1,300,000 UFA 2014 Tampa Bay Lightening/NHL R1 #4 Minnesota Wild (2005)
13 G Biron, Martin $1,300,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #16 Buffalo (1995)
14 F Powe, Darroll $1,066,667 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
15 F Asham, Arron $1,000,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R3 #71 Montreal (1996)
16 F Moore, Dominic $1,000,000 UFA 2014 San Jose Sharks/NHL (2012) R4 #95 NYR (2000)
17 D Falk, Justin $975,000 UFA 2014 Minnesota Wild/NHL R4 #110 Minnesota Wild (2007)
18 F Hagelin, Carl $2,250,000 RFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R6 #168 NYR (2007)
19 D Staal, Marc $3,975,000 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 NYR (2005)
20 F Dorsett, Derek $1,633,333 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #189 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)
21 F Nash, Rick (NMC) $7,800,000 UFA 2019 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #1 Columbus (2002)
22 D McDonagh, Ryan $4,700,000 UFA 2019 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 Montreal (2007)
23 F Richards, Brad (NMC) $6,666,667 UFA 2020 New York Rangers/NHL R3 #64 Tampa Bay (1998)

Capspace for 2013/2014 (23 players) - $2,780,833

Assigned to AHL/ECHL (24)
Nr Pos Player Caphit Status Team Drafted
24 F Kristo, Danny (ELC) $1,300,000* RFA 2014 Hamilton Bulldogs/AHL R2 #56 Montreal Canadians (2008)
25 F Jean, Kyle (ELC) $925,000* RFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
26 F Bourque, Ryan (ELC) $900,000* RFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL R3 #80 NYR (2009)
27 G Missiaen, Jason (ELC) $750,000* RFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHLUndrafted
28 G Stajcer, Scott (ELC) $700,000* RFA 2014 Greenville Road Warriors/ECHLR5 #140 NYR (2009)
29 F Mashinter, Brandon $550,000RFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
30 F Wilson, Jason (ELC) $588,333 RFA 2014 Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL R5 #130 NYR (2010)
31 D Bickel, Stu $750,000 UFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
32 F Haley, Micheal $600,000 UFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
33 D Johnson, Aaron $600,000 UFA 2014 Boston Bruins/NHL R3 #85 Columbus Blue Jackets (2001)
34 D Syvret, Danny $587,500 UFA 2014 Adirondack Phantoms/AHL R3 #81 Edmonton Oilers (2005)
35 D McIlrath, Dylan (ELC) $1,295,000* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHLR1 #10 NYR (2010)
36 F Miller, J.T. (ELC) $1,244,167* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL R1 #15 NYR (2011)
37 F Fast(h), Jesper (ELC) $900,000* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHLR6 #157 NYR (2010)
38 F Yogan, Andrew (ELC) $800,000* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL R4 #100 NYR (2010)
39 F Lindberg, Oscar (ELC) $760,000* RFA 2015Team Sweden/Skelleteå-SHL R2 #57 PHX (2010)
40 F Hrivik, Marek (ELC) $685,000* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
41 G Talbot, Cameron $562,600 UFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL undrafted
42 D Allen, Connor (ELC) $1,775,000* RFA 2016UMass/NCAAundrafted
43 F Nicholls, J. (ELC) $709,167 RFA 2016 Juniors - Saskatoon Blades/WHL R7 #182 Toronto Maple Leafs (2010)
44 D Noreau, Samuel (ELC) $685,000 RFA 2016 Juniors - Baie-Comeau Drakkar/LHJMQ R5 #136 NYR(2011)
45 F St. Croix, M. (ELC) $665,000 RFA 2016 Juniors - Edmonton Oil Kings/WHL R4 #106 NYR (2011)
46 D Hughes, Tommy (ELC) $608,333 RFA 2016Juniors - London Knights/OHLundrafted
47 F Kantor, Michael (ELC) $583,333 RFA 2016 Juniors - Sudbury Wolves/OHLUndrafted

Players signed by NYR on ELC but do not count against 50 contract limit - contract slides
Nr Pos Player Caphit Status Team Drafted
XX D Donnay, Troy (ELC-S) $716,667 RFA 2017 Juniors - Erie Otters/OHLUndrafted

Players still unsigned but with rights retained by NYR
Pos PlayerTeam Drafted
D Pashnin, Mikhail HC Lokomotiv Yaroslavl/KHL R7 #200 NYR (2009)
F Fogarty, Steven Notre Dame Fighting Irish/NCAA R3 #72 NYR (2011)
D Skjei, Brady Minnesota Golden Gophers/NCAA R1 #28 NYR (2012)
F Nieves, Cristoval Michigan Wolverines/NCAA R2 #59 NYR (2012)
D Andersson, Calle Malmö /HA R4 #119 NYR (2012)
F Spelling, Thomas SonderjyskE/Denmark R5 #142 NYR(2012)
F Adam Tambellini North Dakota/NCAA R3 #65 NYR(2013)
F Pavel Buchnevich Cherepovets/KHL R3 #75 NYR(2013)
F Anthony Duclair Quebec/QMJHL R3 #80 NYR(2013)
D Ryan Graves PEI/QMJHL R4 #110 NYR(2013)
GMackenzie Skapski Kootenay/WHL R6 #170 NYR(2013)
* - includes bonus money in contract
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract

2014 Draft picks
  • 1st round NYR
  • 2nd round NYR
  • 3rd round NYR
  • 4th round NYR
  • 5th round Florida (acquired for Casey Wellman)
  • 6th round NYR
  • NO 5th rounder NYR traded to San Jose for Ryan Clowe in 2013 - conditions being if he does not resign with NYR - then San Jose gets the 5th pick.
  • NO 7th rounder This pick was conditionally traded to San Jose along with Tommy "horror-movie" Grant for Brandon Mashinter 2013 - condition being if he resigns with NYR then San Jose gets the pick). B. Mashinter has now been signed (Aug 5) - meaning this pick is going to San José

Some comments:
Derek Stepan will get the # 48 spot. Probably on a two year bridge deal around 3,2 M. Meaning there will be some kind of roster movement come opening day and definitely after Hagelin & Cally return to duty.
I guess the Rangers might sign the whirlwind midget kid Sergei Tolchinsky to an ELC if he has a good tournament in Traverse City - so his contract (like The Skeleton Giant Troy Donnay) would then slide until next year meaning that we would still be at 48 contracts. Dane Fox has been scouted a bit too by the NYR brass but is now a St Louis Blues camp invitee so he cannot be signed now by us - correct?
Any idea of any other possible cap invitees (Big Club or Traverse City)?
There is not much cap space (if any) left available after a deal with Derek Stepan is worked out - but would any of the remaining names like the below list be of interest (if they could be squeezed in pending trades)?:
  • Brendan Morrow
  • Lennart Petrell
  • Douglas Murray
  • Vinny Prospal
  • Peter Mueller
  • Brad Boyes
  • Mark Fistric
  • Chuck Kobasew
  • Radek Dvorak

Also funny to see familiar names like Wade Redden, Tom Poti, Steve Eminger and Jeff Halpern still on the list of unsigned free agents . Sadly enough one sees Mike Sauer there as well...

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08-18-2013, 02:33 PM
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I'd like Brendan Morrow on the 3rd or 4th line if we can get rid of Powe, Asham, Pyatt and maybe even Boyle

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08-18-2013, 02:34 PM
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Also Eklund still saying the Rangers and Flames are talking... so who knows.

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08-18-2013, 02:39 PM
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I still like Eminger. I don't like that they gave up on him. Love to grab Redden and Poti and bang their heads together wrestling style.

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08-18-2013, 02:58 PM
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I like brenden morrow as well. He's a left winger, crazy he made 4.1 million last season

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I like brenden morrow as well. He's a left winger, crazy he made 4.1 million last season
He is still a solid player. I bet he will score 20 goals next year. He is going to want too much money to sign him. Plus there is no room, Boyle or Moore would have to sit..

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Is anyone else still furious that Richards was not bought out?

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08-18-2013, 03:46 PM
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It's too bad Chuck Kobasew had all those leg injuries. He'd be a good fit on this team. Of course, if he could still skate well, he'd be signed already, most likely.

I'm guessing Brad Boyes is looking for a ton of money after putting up 35 points last season. I just don't think anyone is fooled by the numbers he put up playing on Tavares' wing.

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08-18-2013, 03:52 PM
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Is anyone else still furious that Richards was not bought out?
Yeah, it is ridiculous that they are going to risk a cap derailing nightmare should he go down with injury this season. But what can we do? What's done is done. Let's just hope he can contribute and stay healthy...and he'll be gone next summer.

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Is anyone else still furious that Richards was not bought out?
Well, if its because you're worried about a potential injury.. +1.

If it's to sign any of these players listed who are still available to sign, then quite clearly no

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He is still a solid player. I bet he will score 20 goals next year. He is going to want too much money to sign him. Plus there is no room, Boyle or Moore would have to sit..
You're seriously overrating him at this point in his career.

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Peter Chiarelli has had discussions with J.P. Barry, Dennis Seidenberg’s agent, regarding an extension for the Bruins’ No. 2 defenseman. Seidenberg is entering the final season of a four-year, $13 million contract. In hindsight, Seidenberg’s current deal is a cupcake contract for the organization. Seidenberg has proven to be a big-game defenseman. In the playoffs, he’s been on Zdeno Chara’s right side. During the regular season, Seidenberg spent time on the left side. For the Bruins, the tricky part of Seidenberg’s next contract will be term more than salary. Money-wise, Carolina’s Tim Gleason (four years, $16 million) would be an accurate comparable. They are rugged, left-shot defensemen with leadership traits. Gleason, however, is 30. Seidenberg is 32. The Bruins also have to consider their blue line after 2014-15, when right-shot stay-at-homers Johnny Boychuk and Adam McQuaid are scheduled to reach UFA status. “Dennis has been good for us,” Chiarelli said. “He’s in terrific shape. That’s tough to maintain as you get older. As far as style, we’ve got the best defenseman in the league in Zdeno who plays that style. It’s a heavy, heavy style.”
Look at Seidenberg and look at Girardi. $4M for Seidenberg. I know its the projection from the writer Fluto Shinzawa's but that's a more realistic number than Bouwmeester's $5.4M which was the Larry Brooks number.

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Former Columbus coach Scott Arniel will be Alain Vigneault’s right-hand man on Broadway. Arniel won’t need much time to introduce himself in the Rangers’ dressing room. His former charges include Rick Nash, Derrick Brassard, Derek Dorsett, John Moore, and Anton Stralman. Among the coaching staff’s top priorities is to get Nash to reengage himself as one of the top puck-lugging shooters in the NHL. Nash was a ghost against the Bruins in the second round of last season’s playoffs. Former coach John Tortorella believed Nash was out of shape. He probably accused Nash of much worse behind closed doors.
Nash was out of shape. NHL Network has shown various games this summer. Last weekend it was Ovechkin's first goal in the NHL in 2005. The Caps hosted Columbus. Nash looked so much thinner than he looks today. Yes it was 8 years ago. Ovechkin looks the same. There is no lockout for another 7-9 years so the players can't use the lockout as an excuse for not playing or being out of shape. Nash played in Switzerland before returning to North America in December. He hurt his shoulder and groin in Europe. Nash left Switzerland to get the groin injury checked out in early December. Did he skate much for those 4-5 weeks from the time he left Switzerland to when the lockout ended? Many players took time off for the holiday season. Brad Richards went home to PEI. The lockout was also an excuse used for Ryane Clowe.

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Look at Seidenberg and look at Girardi. $4M for Seidenberg. I know its the projection from the writer Fluto Shinzawa's but that's a more realistic number than Bouwmeester's $5.4M which was the Larry Brooks number.



Nash was out of shape. NHL Network has shown various games this summer. Last weekend it was Ovechkin's first goal in the NHL in 2005. The Caps hosted Columbus. Nash looked so much thinner than he looks today. Yes it was 8 years ago. Ovechkin looks the same. There is no lockout for another 7-9 years so the players can't use the lockout as an excuse for not playing or being out of shape. Nash played in Switzerland before returning to North America in December. He hurt his shoulder and groin in Europe. Nash left Switzerland to get the groin injury checked out in early December. Did he skate much for those 4-5 weeks from the time he left Switzerland to when the lockout ended? Many players took time off for the holiday season. Brad Richards went home to PEI. The lockout was also an excuse used for Ryane Clowe.

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The fact that Girardi is a top pairing RHD alone will allow him to get more than 4M IMO

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You're seriously overrating him at this point in his career.
20 goals if he played with Pittsburgh again.. Probably 15 with any other team. Still a good player to have.

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Is anyone else still furious that Richards was not bought out?
Why? So Sather would give out a terrible contract to some other overrated player. Look at what Philly and Toronto did.

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If we can successfully buy him out, I'm not losing my mind over it. I expect him to be back at 2012 level next year. Taking Richards out will mean another player will have to fill the 2C/3C spot with another contract. To e honest, we have great center depth right now if everyone pulls their weight. Player decision wise, maybe not the greatest thing that's ever happened but as far as the team goes, I don't mind him for another year. If he can be what he was for us in 2012, we will look pretty good.

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Richards is good to keep around for this season for his experience. On the other hand, I'm still upset he wasn't bought out for the sole reason of injury possibility that wouldn't allow us to buy him out.

Nash's problem was never his skill. He's all world. The problem is that he put on some weight as a 6'4" 195 pound 18 year old kid should. He's now 6'4" 220. He's not as agile as he was when he first entered the league. He has a power forward's body but doesn't really hit or play aggressively like one. Dropping 5 pounds and working on agility over the summer would do wonders for Nash's game.

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Whatever Nash's "problem" was last season, he had 44 points in 46 games..

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Whatever Nash's "problem" was last season, he had 44 points in 46 games..
Point totals were never a problem. He can catch fire and have five multiple point games in a row. I'm in the camp that thinks he was hurt in the playoffs, but there were times when he looked completely disengaged from the game. A quicker and more agile Nash that can protect the puck and shoot like he can is a top 10 player in the league rather than just a streaky first liner.

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I think he was hurt and was scared that he'd get benched/wasn't ready for playoff hockey.

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For the money he was paid and the assets we paid to get him, Rick Nash's playoff performance last year stunk. Period. If he was injured, then so be it. Otherwise it was and will be painful to watch in the future. That being said, I really hope he bounces back and shows that he is an elite player in the NHL. Also in the playoffs. If not, the villagers will again rise with their torches and pitchforks and he will be the next bounty "superstar" that is run outta town. His contract runs quite some Time. Hit the gym, visit Gary Roberts and Barb Underhill and see a good athlete shrink Rick, we need your elite talent paying major dividends out there.

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For the money he was paid and the assets we paid to get him, Rick Nash's playoff performance last year stunk. Period. If he was injured, then so be it. Otherwise it was and will be painful to watch in the future. That being said, I really hope he bounces back and shows that he is an elite player in the NHL. Also in the playoffs. If not, the villagers will again rise with their torches and pitchforks and he will be the next bounty "superstar" that is run outta town. His contract runs quite some Time. Hit the gym, visit Gary Roberts and Barb Underhill and see a good athlete shrink Rick, we need your elite talent paying major dividends out there.
First of all, I can't disagree.

But we can't let the PO's paint the only picture we have of him, and especially not the last games of the PO's. After a season we have the PO's fresh in memory. I saw a rerun of a game agaisnt Tampa that we played in February. Nash performance in that game might only have been topped by Brian Leetch in his absolute prime, and only matched by Jagr, during the last 25 years. He 3-4 times just skated through Tampa's D. He was a complete force.

We really did not play good hockey during the regular season, and Nash was a PPG player for us.

Late in G2 against the Caps, the score is tied 0-0, we have really not been able to create any high caliber scoring chances, before Nash really starts putting on a show. He creates several chances. And when its only minutes away he skates through 5 guys and rings a shot of the inside of the post when he is alone with the goalie. If that shot goes in, a player stepping up and by himself skates through 5 guys and scores a GWer in an extremely thight PO game, its a goal for the history books. A goal nobody ever forgets. There aren't a goal scored like that every PO even. The marginals aren't big.

Also, looking back over the last couple of years, there really has been no thing as a play-off performer in the NHL 2013. There was in 03', or 99', but not in 2013. Michael Ryder or Kris Veersteeg can play their game in the PO's the same way they play it during the regular season. So can Rich Nash.

My point is just this, no matter how he looked in the PO's, we just have little reason to start putting a ton of focus and pressure on Rich Nash and question him because he didn't perform in the PO's. There is no reason to look at the PO's isolated. He was extremely good during basically half the regular season, and just good/solid the other half. He looked like sheit during the PO's. Was he injured? It certainly looked like it.

That's what we got to work with. I worry more about Nash mental side of the game than his PO performance. You become a winner by winning, confidence matters etc. For a player who was such a extreme force for us during so many games, its a darn pitty that he left the season on a negative note.

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Nash was on a 39 goal pace with the shortened season. He was streaky. Nash had 21 goals in 44 games. Nash puts up another similar season and that's a very good season. The Rangers have enough centers to get him the puck. Put in a little more work in the gym. No excuses about the lockout for the players who suffered injuries playing in Europe or the guys who didn't play. They were ready to go in September but weren't ready in January. Overall,Nash had a very good regular season. Poor playoffs. That shouldn't be a surprise considering he played just 4 playoff games in his career with Columbus. For a guy coming to New York with all of the attention,he was very good. Many players have flopped in their first season.

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Nash was on a 39 goal pace with the shortened season. He was streaky. Nash had 21 goals in 44 games. Nash puts up another similar season and that's a very good season. The Rangers have enough centers to get him the puck. Put in a little more work in the gym. No excuses about the lockout for the players who suffered injuries playing in Europe or the guys who didn't play. They were ready to go in September but weren't ready in January. Overall,Nash had a very good regular season. Poor playoffs. That shouldn't be a surprise considering he played just 4 playoff games in his career with Columbus. For a guy coming to New York with all of the attention,he was very good. Many players have flopped in their first season.
it would be nice if Nash didnt pull the same deke over and over and try to be too fancy.... and it would be nice if Nash used his size every now and then... big guy but plays soft at times.... needs more intensity in his game.. playoffs is built for players that play with intensity.

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Love Nash, but it was really evident in the playoffs that he has no mean streak whatsoever; to say I was disappointed in his PO performance would be a huge understatement...

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