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11-07-2006, 10:22 PM
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Sweet Mercifull Crap!!

Randy Jones is +0!!! How bad have things gotten when he leads our defence in +/-

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11-07-2006, 10:25 PM
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He also is the only defenceman to score a goal and is second for defencemen in points. One might think he deserves more ice time.

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11-08-2006, 01:10 AM
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he hasn't played many games...that's my only thought

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11-08-2006, 05:58 AM
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He's played 12 of the 14 games.

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He's playing decent. As much as I busted on him last year for being the most incompitent defenseman, the whole defense has pulled a full 180. Now he's one of the only compitent defenseman, and the rest really aren't.

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11-08-2006, 07:29 AM
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i just love the title...

my theory: he's gotten lucky... he also is getting spotted in his ice-time, so that protects him a fair amount. there have been a number of "oopses" with Jones that he is very lucky didn't result in a minus. like the sequence against Toronto where he let Jeff O'Neil get in behind him for a breakaway... made a nice recovery, and then turned the puck over in the corner (somehow didn't get credited with a turnover...) which led to a play right out into the slot and a nice save by Nitty.

Jones WILL be a competent NHL dman, i just doubt it's going to be as anything more than a 3rd pairing type on a decent team.

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11-08-2006, 08:24 AM
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I guess he got "lucky" in his spotted ice time to be able to become 2nd in points for defencemen on the team as well. No doubt it has nothing to do with him working his butt off.


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I guess he got "lucky" in his spotted ice time to be able to become 2nd in points for defencemen on the team as well. No doubt it has nothing to do with him working his butt off.
there ya are!

that goal was pure fluke... and it ain't hard to be second on this team in defensive scoring given that 1) we're not scoring; 2) the defense is even more incompetent.

go him for rising to the top on this sinking ship... it is an absolutely scalding 11 pt pace.

yes, we're that bad that a dman on pace for 11 pts is 2nd in scoring.

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11-08-2006, 10:25 AM
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You just proved a point. To be able to score when the team scoring is struggling is really quite a pleasure.

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You just proved a point. To be able to score when the team scoring is struggling is really quite a pleasure.
that our team sux? i think we all knew that already... that our defense is one of our main problems (jones included)? i think we knew that already as well.

i will freely admit that Jones will develop into a back-end dman in this league, but he's proven nothing else thus far. 11 pts is nothing to brag about.

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11-08-2006, 11:03 AM
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i will freely admit that Jones will develop into a back-end dman in this league, but he's proven nothing else thus far.
He looks good and is only 25.

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He looks good and is only 25.
25 is getting towards "you are what you are" level... some player develop later than that for sure, but you'd like to see more from forwards before then, and you'd like to see it in a dman coming together at 25. Jones has been better than last year (which was an unmitigated disaster), but he's still turning the puck over with some consistency, and has some struggles with physical play.

will he be a bit better in a couple years? sure. not a ton, however. i don't think he's ever a player you're going to be excited to have on your team... he'll be a nice guy to have in the bottom pairing. i mean, saying, "wow, look at randy jones' stats..." on a team that is 3-10-1 and 2nd to last in team defense in the league isn't necessarily a real complement... he isn't even playing well enough to force Stevens -- who obviously knows his game very well -- to play him more than 12 a night...

Rathje's -2, given all the grief he gets, impresses me much more than any other stat you can see on the flyers page at the moment.

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I think Sweet, Merciful, and Crap are three guys we're using on defense now.

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I think Sweet, Merciful, and Crap are three guys we're using on defense now.
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I concur.

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11-08-2006, 02:06 PM
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I concur.
Hey Mrs. Jones, how are you? Been a while since you've come running to the defense of your son.

Randy's been solid. He looked solid for some games last year too.

He's on the fence. He can get better and become a reliable defenseman in this league, or he can go back to the **** player that he was last year.

Time will tell.

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11-08-2006, 02:13 PM
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Sorry Storm, can't help you there. Just because I defend someone doesn't mean he's related. I've known and followed Randy since he played at university. But thanks for recognizing he's doing better.

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Sorry Storm, can't help you there. Just because I defend someone doesn't mean he's related. I've known and followed Randy since he played at university. But thanks for recognizing he's doing better.
I'm only playing around.

It comes from my experience of real mothers of players *****ing at me for having the "nerve" to say negative things about their baby boys. It's kind of humourous.

I got that read off you the first time you posted, but I hope you can recognize I'm just having some fun!

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No problem Storm, I enjoy your posts, thanks. I've also defended many other players as well.

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11-08-2006, 04:04 PM
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I think Sweet, Merciful, and Crap are three guys we're using on defense now.

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I think Sweet, Merciful, and Crap are three guys we're using on defense now.

We should totally trade Sweet for prospects

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