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08-20-2013, 11:17 AM
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Heard back from my rep. Apparently, each price point for regular tickets is only allowed to buy from specific price points for this game.

"Tickets are on sale based on seating locations then by tenure. Each seating location has a certain inventory that they are allowed to purchase (i.e. people that have 1879 or Madison Club tickets will not be allowed to purchase the cheaper tickets for the outdoor games). If an account has tickets in the lower bowl and the upper bowl, they are going with their lower bowl location for when they can purchase and again cannot purchase tickets at the lower price points.
Hopefully this makes sense and you can understand why we did it this way."
sounds like we'll get stuck with ****** seats then. thanks rangers

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08-20-2013, 11:21 AM
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You have it backwards. This is why hockey should not be having any lockouts. There's no reason to squeeze more out of the players because obviously the game is growing and people are able and willing to pay more and more for tickets and as you said this thread is exhibit 1A

As for the freezing, dress appropriately - gonna be an awesome set of games
My point is these are the same people that will be incessantly whining when, in reality, the two sides are arguing over the money you are more than willing to fork over at a moment's notice.

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08-20-2013, 11:29 AM
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Nope they aren't running it for free, and they provide insurance on both sides of the transaction. But when you're talking a 25% markup (it's actually 79% on the cheapest MLB tickets), it takes away pretty much all of a seller's margin for all events except the highest demand ones. They should be collecting a fee, but 25% is insane and it's going to cost them a lot of business since it's so much in your face now with everything packed into the listed price.

If I do buy extras, like you said I shouldn't have a problem finding a buyer but it won't be through stubhub. I'll probably offer them up on craigslist or on here




Interesting, sounds like the same process as the Rangers upgrade round at the Garden in the offseason. The Yankees use the same 3D visualizer as the rangers (yankees.io-media.com), so I'm pretty sure we'll be using the same seat selection tools and will only be able to see inventory for the same relative price tiers as our current season seats
It's actually less than the team ticket exchanges. They charge 10% to seller and 17% to buyer.

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Interesting, sounds like the same process as the Rangers upgrade round at the Garden in the offseason. The Yankees use the same 3D visualizer as the rangers (yankees.io-media.com), so I'm pretty sure we'll be using the same seat selection tools and will only be able to see inventory for the same relative price tiers as our current season seats
So it would seem that the people in the 400s can choose from any section, while the people in club seating can only choose seats in the most expensive sections.

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08-20-2013, 11:59 AM
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It's actually less than the team ticket exchanges. They charge 10% to seller and 17% to buyer.
The difference is that on TEx all the fees are hidden from the buyer until the credit card page. When everything is upfront, sellers need to lower prices to compete and that puts downward pressure on prices

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08-20-2013, 03:09 PM
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The difference is that on TEx all the fees are hidden from the buyer until the credit card page. When everything is upfront, sellers need to lower prices to compete and that puts downward pressure on prices
I disagree completely. Anyone who has a brain, sees the price on TE, then goes to pay and notices they just added, $50, in fees, should realize they can get a better deal on stubhub. The order isn't final until you enter your cc info.

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Maybe the date depends on current ticket price point and time of day on tenure?

edit: I do data analysis for a living, that is my hypothesis from the scattered observations so far lol
Just re-read all the dates and that's what it seems like. Looks like it's being done by price point at highest to lowest and inside each price point the order is done by tenure.

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I disagree completely. Anyone who has a brain, sees the price on TE, then goes to pay and notices they just added, $50, in fees, should realize they can get a better deal on stubhub. The order isn't final until you enter your cc info.
SH just moved this year to "what you see is what you get" for pretty much everything (includes Yankees, Mets, Jets, Giants, Knicks, etc..). The listed prices this year are about the same or lower on SH than last year, which means sellers are eating an extra 10% in fees because they have to lower prices to meet buyer expectations.

You'd be surprised about the behavior of many buyers, and also ticket exchange validates barcodes (and is endorsed by the Rangers) which is important to some people for confidence who don't know/trust stubhub

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Do you have seats in the lower bowl?
Nope, my price point is $76 per as previously stated

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08-20-2013, 03:42 PM
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I don't think there are too many people out there that don't trust stubhub. In fact, I think MORE people buy off stubhub than the ticket exchange. Secondly, demand for tickets to teams varies year to year. Look at what has happened to the market for Jets tickets. I can't imagine anyone is buying on the ticket exchange considering their minimums are face value.

I have found for myself, I make more money and sell more tickets on stub hub than I do the ticket exchange. The only benefit for the ticket exchange is I don't have to go to UPS to ship the tickets. However, I have a UPS drop-off location on my way to work, so it is not that big of a deal. When I buy tickets to Giants road games, I always buy on stubhub because I want the hard tickets.

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I also make more by far on stubhub than ticket exchange, but I'm telling you that this new listing policy on SH is going to cause you some pain on your margins this season. This is from my personal experience with the new system in the past 6 months or so

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I also make more by far on stubhub than ticket exchange, but I'm telling you that this new listing policy on SH is going to cause you some pain on your margins this season. This is from my personal experience with the new system in the past 6 months or so
I do not sell too much on either. Not really worried about my margin. I am not concerned about making every possible dollar. For most games, I just want to get my money back, and if I make a profit, it is a bonus. This year, demand for Giants games is through the roof, so was able to make some money without being too greedy. I think the real problem, is MOST people are dumb. If they try to sell tickets, and see the lowest in their section is listed for $212.50, they are not smart enough to figure out what they need to post as their price in order to be competitive with the $212.50 and then are too stupid to figure out what their take will be after fees.

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Thanks. I just realized they posted a link in the email. So what's the best value among the price points...as if there are values to be had. lol
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Compared to the price, I'd go with the 400's. You'll be high up and have a good view of everything while paying the least out of those off the field level.



I took that in Philly and though it isn't the best picture, it shows you how limited your view will be on field level. That was from the concourse too so it'll only get worse as you get lower.
These would be comparable $189 light green seats then? What's the point in going if the view is this (unless you want to pay $229+, you will end up watching the game on the big screen).

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What's the point in going if the view is this
Pretty much just being there

They have winter classics every year, some with terrible views, yet pretty much everyone has a great time

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Why would I want to go through all this to get $400 which would just make me break even? Your take home on the Giants tickets was 255, and the buyer paid 334 - so you effectively paid a 24% fee to go through stubhub.

I don't know what the prices will be on the secondary market, there's a lot of seats out there to be sold. Many STHs will just be able to jusify a pair to one of the games. That means for people with 4 or 6 seats x 2 games, they will be sellers that's going to increase supply and put some downward pressure on prices

Normally I would be predicting prices to be around face plus 5-10%, but Super Bowl week is a real wild card here. I have no idea how this is going to play out, all I know is I want to be at the Wednesday night game and I want decent seats
I must have a reading comprehension issue. You are arguing that his 250%+ gain on his Giants tickets wasn't worth it? I guess I will take my chances.

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I must have a reading comprehension issue. You are arguing that his 250%+ gain on his Giants tickets wasn't worth it? I guess I will take my chances.
If you've got Giants season tickets, you don't have to worry about fees

I can tell you the same is true of Knicks tickets

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We go Thursday the 29th at 10 AM. Definitely done by price point.

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Nope they aren't running it for free, and they provide insurance on both sides of the transaction. But when you're talking a 25% markup (it's actually 79% on the cheapest MLB tickets), it takes away pretty much all of a seller's margin for all events except the highest demand ones. They should be collecting a fee, but 25% is insane and it's going to cost them a lot of business since it's so much in your face now with everything packed into the listed price.
Their 25% fee isn't new, however ... only change is how it's shown.

Previously, seller would give "sellng" price of (say) $100. It would be listed at $100 and then buyer would pay $100 + 10% + shipping. Seller would then get $85/ticket. Ignoring shipping (which is very expensive on a per-ticket basis if sent UPS/FedEx for one ticket, but not nearly as much if sent electronically), their total fee is $25.

Now, the ticket will be listed at $110 (plus the cost of whatever the seller chooses as the shipping method) and the seller will still get the $85.

The seller is only hurt under this new policy (versus the previous policy) to the extent that the higher price that is shown (in the listing) scares away some customers. I agree it's a strange system, in that (almost) everyone else prefers to show as low a price as possible on the screen, and then add in fees and shipping after the buyer has selected the tickets (figuring very few buyers will change their mind when they are one more click away from the purchase).

Having said all of that, the fact that the seller gets $85 for a ticket that someone buys for $110 (ignoring shipping) is an enormous spread that (should) leave a pretty wide opening for an alternative selling platform. However, a lot of buyers are willing to pay for the quick and certain payment (and access to the universe of buyers who use StubHub), while the sellers are willing to pay for the security of StubHub guaranteeing the tickets.

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Shipping on Stubhub used to be FedEx, at 11.95 for the order. Now, they use UPS and it is cheaper. I believe it is about $6 per order. The spread on stubhub is huge, and I do try to sell as many as I can privately. However, when I give someone a price, then inform them my price is less than they will spend on stubhub, the 10% added on helps my case.

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Now, the ticket will be listed at $110
That's whrere you're wrong. In practice the seller has been forced to show the listed price at $100 to compete and has had to eat the extra $10 compared to last year

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That's whrere you're wrong. In practice the seller has been forced to show the listed price at $100 to compete and has had to eat the extra $10 compared to last year
They clearly state on the page that there are no added fees. Again, anyone with a brain would go to ticketexchange, see the huge fee as they are entering their CC page and realize they are paying a lot more than the $100 listed price (or whatever it is). If they are lowering their listed price they are trying to compete with those other tickets on stubhub. If the seller is adjusting his price so his price with fees, is lower or equal to the price without fees on ticketexchange, then the seller is an idiot. Maybe I see it differently, because I am not being overly greedy. My Giants tickets are section 340, and I generally post mine significantly lower than anyone posting in 338-342, and I still make a profit. I'd rather get them sold and leave a few dollars on the table then worry about squeezing every dollar out of the tickets. Plus, I guess I am doing something right, because if you look right now, you can get tickets in my section, same row for less than what my buyer paid.

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They clearly state on the page that there are no added fees. Again, anyone with a brain would go to ticketexchange, see the huge fee as they are entering their CC page and realize they are paying a lot more than the $100 listed price (or whatever it is). If they are lowering their listed price they are trying to compete with those other tickets on stubhub. If the seller is adjusting his price so his price with fees, is lower or equal to the price without fees on ticketexchange, then the seller is an idiot. Maybe I see it differently, because I am not being overly greedy. My Giants tickets are section 340, and I generally post mine significantly lower than anyone posting in 338-342, and I still make a profit. I'd rather get them sold and leave a few dollars on the table then worry about squeezing every dollar out of the tickets. Plus, I guess I am doing something right, because if you look right now, you can get tickets in my section, same row for less than what my buyer paid.
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