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Montreal signs Douglas Murray [1 Year/$1.5 million]

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08-22-2013, 01:06 PM
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Nice contract for Montreal. Wish the Flames had taken a flyer on him for that price.

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Perfect minor signing, nothing to add.

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08-22-2013, 01:15 PM
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If they have a mobile D to put him with and keep him away from fast forwards who change directions a lot, he's still an asset at that price. Just have to be specific about his matchups.
He will likely play bottom pair minutes with the very mobile Raphael Diaz.

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08-22-2013, 01:16 PM
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Hope he turns out like Kaberle for them
At 1,5 M$, I don't see were's the risk. I mean, the guy will earn 3 times less $ than Clarkson in Toronto. And for only one season. And honestly, I wonder which one will have more impact on his team.

Considering the Emelin won't be back anytime soon, and that anyway Montreal can't rely only on Subban, Tinordi and Emelin to had some strenght on D, it's a great signing.

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08-22-2013, 01:18 PM
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I think Murray will bring great entertainment to, for example, the Montreal/Boston rivalry.

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Great signing.

Not a guy you want in your top 4 permanently, but he can step up as needed for brief stings for injuries.

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08-22-2013, 01:22 PM
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Damn nice signing for Les Glorieux!
Hope he does a nasty job against us and other teams!

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08-22-2013, 01:28 PM
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If Murray's taken his conditioning seriously this summer and is back to where he was before the lockout, this could be an absolute steal for the Habs at 1.5mil. If he plays like he did this year, he'll still be a big plus for the Habs, he brings exactly what we need and we have no shortage of mobile defenceman to pair him with. I'd expect something in-between. His performance next year may warrant a trade or further movement but, I'm assuming this is just shoring up the defence with a veteran, bottom-pairing, shut-down defenceman.
I think you've hit exactly on why the collective knee-jerk that is HF has so quickly soured on Murray after one season. I think being locked out so long, coupled with such a compressed schedule, made it extra hard on beefcakes such as Murray who probably can't turn their conditioning on and off like a switch.

On top of everything that he's known for, he's also fairly good at making the little plays to defense partners when under pressure, so he just needs a decent puck mover beside him. Diaz seems a logic partner for a 3rd pairing, for example. If Nygren or Beaulieu simply impressed too much to ignore, they'd fit the bill, too (but no one is eager to throw them into the NHL grind quite yet).

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08-22-2013, 01:36 PM
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I don't get the Habs... I know they got smoked by the Sens, but adding Slow Grit goes against their model. It is their speed and creativity that allowed them to beat teams like the Bruins in the regular season, now I feel they are adding Grit to compete with the Bruins, Ottawa and Leafs in that style of game. They are making a compromise on their style of play and it might bite them in the ass.

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08-22-2013, 01:39 PM
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I don't get the Habs... I know they got smoked by the Sens, but adding Slow Grit goes against their model. It is their speed and creativity that allowed them to beat teams like the Bruins in the regular season, now I feel they are adding Grit to compete with the Bruins, Ottawa and Leafs in that style of game. They are making a compromise on their style of play and it might bite them in the ass.
Not necessarily. Montreal's adding grit on the bottom six, as well as on defense. The top 6 (or even top 9) are still mostly smaller, skilled forwards with speed.

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08-22-2013, 01:52 PM
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I think you've hit exactly on why the collective knee-jerk that is HF has so quickly soured on Murray after one season.
Two seasons.

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08-22-2013, 01:56 PM
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God bottom pairing signing. A big, crease clearing, d-man who can fight if necessary and protect Price. This is a good value signing.

Hopefully, our D looks like:

Subban-Gorges
Markov-Tinordi
Diaz/Beaulieu-Murray

Bouillon, Drewiske, Diaz/Beaulieu.

Call me crazy, but I hope Beaulieu shows enough to replace Diaz so we can have a really strong and physical defence this season with some nastiness to it. Seriously, if Beaulieu can be paired with Murray, Markov and Gorges will be our only "softish" d- men! Subban, Tinordi, Murray, and Beaulieu are all strong guys who can hit people. I am starting to feel better about the upcoming season, defensively. Unfortunately, Therrien is notorious for not playing young guys over favored veterans, so we will probably be force fed Bouillon and Drewiske over Tinordi and Beaulieu...sigh...ah, we'll, I can still be hopeful!

Good signing...and it didn't cost us two 2nd round picks, either!

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08-22-2013, 01:58 PM
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Good signing I've never seen so many players get injured trying to hit someone til Murray

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08-22-2013, 02:10 PM
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+1 -- he doesn't lack effort and is very intelligent on the ice. His biggest flaws are that he is slow and can sometimes sacrifice positioning to go for a big hit. Very good on a 5-on-3 kill and will block a lot of shots; no problem sacrificing his body. Good luck, Douglas.
I'm not sure if HB's comment was tongue-in-cheek or not (went to Cornell) because Murray isn't even close to one of the smartest hockey players "hockey IQ" wise. His playstyle never screamed "intelligent" to me. He isn't good with his stick, his positioning isn't great anymore, and even if he sees an opportunity to make a big hit, he's usually too slow to deliver it.
He's a big body who is hard to knock down and will attempt to clear the front of the net.

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08-22-2013, 02:14 PM
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Dude is not nearly as bad as he's made out to be here. Having said that, he isn't great anymore either. I'm just glad he's not facing the Sharks multiple times

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Good signing I've never seen so many players get injured trying to hit someone til Murray
kinda like Emelin on Lucic?

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He will likely play bottom pair minutes with the very mobile Raphael Diaz.
That should work. Therrien just needs to make sure not to send him over the boards against guys like Kessel, Zetterberg, St Louis or Huberdeau. Especially St Louis, though.

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Good for the Habs. Happy for Murray.

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I'm not sure if HB's comment was tongue-in-cheek or not (went to Cornell) because Murray isn't even close to one of the smartest hockey players "hockey IQ" wise. His playstyle never screamed "intelligent" to me. He isn't good with his stick, his positioning isn't great anymore, and even if he sees an opportunity to make a big hit, he's usually too slow to deliver it.
He's a big body who is hard to knock down and will attempt to clear the front of the net.
He's a smart player. It's how he survived in the league for so long with little mobility (which used to be better than now, but was never what I'd call "good"). Always plays within his limitations. Always cognizant of the possibility of being caught in the wrong place, which he can't recover from.

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Good signing, good fit.

I have a little more confidence in our back end this season. Price will benefit from this signing.

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08-22-2013, 02:19 PM
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I think Murray will bring great entertainment to, for example, the Montreal/Boston rivalry.
And against Ottawa as well, he seemed to love playing against them in the playoffs especially against Neil!!!

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And against Ottawa as well, he seemed to love playing against them in the playoffs especially against Neil!!!
You'll like that he told a Swedish newspaper after that series he plans to hunt Neil down next year and beat his ass, haha.

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He's a smart player. It's how he survived in the league for so long with little mobility (which used to be better than now, but was never what I'd call "good"). Always plays within his limitations. Always cognizant of the possibility of being caught in the wrong place, which he can't recover from.
Guess we have different definitions of "hockey IQ". Because those qualities aren't intelligent in my opinion. Those qualities are just knowing how to play within your limits.

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Neat. Good for both parts. It'll be fun to see Murray dish som bone crushing hits next year (I hope)

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