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Predict the Sochi 2014 top 3

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07-28-2013, 02:22 PM
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Does anyone really think that not at least two medalists will be amongst CAN/RUS/SWE/USA? That leaves at the very best one medal that the next four teams can fight for. 25 percent chance tops=Not very good odds if you ask me.

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Slovak?
Yes, I'm full well aware what he meant with it, he just got the shortened form wrong at first. It's a source of regular confusion, but SLO stands for Slovenia. Slovakia is SVK.

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Let's assume that CAN, SWE, USA and RUS all play in different QF pairs. It's unlikely (maybe <40%), but let's assume so.
I'd it lower than ten, personally. Like I said earlier, there's not just one, but three different conditions that need to be beaten that all those four will end up in different pairs. It's as close to a technical guarantee as you can get.

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Does anyone really think that not at least two medalists will be amongst CAN/RUS/SWE/USA? That leaves at the very best one medal that the next four teams can fight for. 25 percent chance tops=Not very good odds if you ask me.
Yes, that is correct. But you're missing the point. We're not trying to prove a single country's odds to medal, but arguing against those predictions that place ALL the top four in the final four. Because that is not very likely to happen. It's not to say that one of them won't win gold or that two of them won't medal. That has rather good odds of happening. But it's similarly likely that one or two of them won't make it past the QF stage, because it's just one game, and more importantly, the system is going to pit some against each other.

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Does anyone really think that not at least two medalists will be amongst CAN/RUS/SWE/USA? That leaves at the very best one medal that the next four teams can fight for. 25 percent chance tops=Not very good odds if you ask me.
I'm afraid but I don't understand your logic. Can you explain?

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I'm afraid but I don't understand your logic. Can you explain?
It looks as if he thinks we're trying to argue that say, Finland, has better odds to medal than people think. Which we're not. All we're saying is that the statistical probability of all top-four teams of making the semis is rather low. Some will be there, and some will not.

It's a whole different thing to try and count the odds for one specific team to make it. I know I'm not getting into that.

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This is my prediction for the 2014 Men's Winter Olympic Ice Hockey Tournament from bob437. GOLD MEDAL-Russia SILVER MEDAL-Sweden BRONZE MEDAL-Canada

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Does anyone really think that not at least two medalists will be amongst CAN/RUS/SWE/USA? That leaves at the very best one medal that the next four teams can fight for. 25 percent chance tops=Not very good odds if you ask me.
Hmm, looked into the Czech players the other day. What struck me is that they have quite a few forwards that are producing and defenders that will take clear roles. And their goalie will be great, Pavelec.

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One should not leave out Russia from the top three as it would be a real upset with home ice for them to not get a medal. Sweden and Canada will probably get medal too, with no upsets.

So... upsets do happen. I predict:
1) Russia, overachieving on home ice.
2) USA, always stepping up on big tournaments.
3) Canada, beaten by Russia.
4) Sweden, beaten by USA

More wishful and perhaps more rational too I think that Sweden and Canada are the finalists with Russia as #3.

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1 - USA


2 - Russia


3 - Sweden

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1. Russia
2. Canada
3. Sweden

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