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08-26-2013, 11:06 AM
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I'll be really surprised if Hall makes it.
this seems to be a consensus and it pretty unfair to Hall. Last year, there was no inter-conference play. The East was less defensive. The result was that the top 5 Canadian scorers were from the East.

That does not make them better than anyone from the top 5 from the West.

In the Western conference, Hall was the top scorer. A case could be made that he would be a top 2 or 3 Canadian scorer with a full interlocking schedule. He is also probably the fastest Canadian forward.

How do you completely leave him off the team?

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08-26-2013, 11:12 AM
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Team are allowed to carry 25 skaters however only 20 skaters and 2 goalies will be dressed for games. At this point Hall has to be one of those 25 players even if he's just on the taxi squad.

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08-26-2013, 11:13 AM
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im torn this year, i want luongo to choke in vancouver but i want him to be a beast for canada in the olympics
He still can, go to the Olympics win gold, party so hard that the "jet lag" has him playing like crap to finish the year.

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08-26-2013, 11:21 AM
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The good news is, I hear Hall and Ebs are absolutely killing it at camp so far! Hall won the "burger flip competition" at the BBQ and Ebs was his set up man, passing him the tongs.

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this seems to be a consensus and it pretty unfair to Hall. Last year, there was no inter-conference play. The East was less defensive. The result was that the top 5 Canadian scorers were from the East.

That does not make them better than anyone from the top 5 from the West.

In the Western conference, Hall was the top scorer. A case could be made that he would be a top 2 or 3 Canadian scorer with a full interlocking schedule. He is also probably the fastest Canadian forward.

How do you completely leave him off the team?
We need to keep in mind that the Eastern media isn't picking the squad and that Kevin Lowe is on management along with Mike Babcock who has saw Hall live on more than one occasion. Also doesn't hurt that 3 of the coaches are from the West this year.

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08-26-2013, 11:23 AM
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this seems to be a consensus and it pretty unfair to Hall. Last year, there was no inter-conference play. The East was less defensive. The result was that the top 5 Canadian scorers were from the East.

That does not make them better than anyone from the top 5 from the West.

In the Western conference, Hall was the top scorer. A case could be made that he would be a top 2 or 3 Canadian scorer with a full interlocking schedule. He is also probably the fastest Canadian forward.

How do you completely leave him off the team?
I guess they always put emphasis on experience, blah blah blah. He's the youngest guy on the team.

If Hall continues to play like last year from the get-go, he's got to be added on.

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08-26-2013, 11:28 AM
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08-26-2013, 11:51 AM
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I still think Hall would look lethal paired with Getzlaf and Perry as a 4th line energy line.

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08-26-2013, 12:21 PM
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Expected lines for second session: Kunitz-Crosby-Sharp; Marchand-Bergeron-Eberle; Lucic-Duchene-Neal; Hall-J. Staal-U of C player filling in

Eberle doing his Tyler Seguin impression as he lines up with Marchand - Bergeron. Pretty good fit IMO if they're looking to replicate that Bruins line.

Hall gets the short stick. Hall - J. Staal - UofC player

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08-26-2013, 12:41 PM
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This is what I have for forwards

Kunitz/Crosby/Giroux
Hall/Stamkos/St. Louis
Couture/Tavares/Perry
Marchand/Bergeron/

I went with chemistry over anything else
Crosby and Kunitz, Stamkos and St. Louis, Marchand and Bergeron
I'm inclined to put Tavares instead of Thornton. Tavares just seems more competitive imo

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08-26-2013, 12:44 PM
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This is what I have for forwards

Kunitz/Crosby/Giroux
Hall/Stamkos/St. Louis
Couture/Tavares/Perry
Marchand/Bergeron/

I went with chemistry over anything else
Crosby and Kunitz, Stamkos and St. Louis, Marchand and Bergeron
I'm inclined to put Tavares instead of Thornton. Tavares just seems more competitive imo
Kunitz? Really?

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08-26-2013, 12:49 PM
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Kunitz? Really?
Crosby is the best player on team Canada
Kunitz has the most chemistry with him so why not?

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08-26-2013, 12:52 PM
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Goaltending is obviously our weakest link, but there are guys at the camp who can easily play at an elite level. I'm not too concerned. Brodeur, maybe the best goalie of all time, lost the starting job in Vancouver. we just need a guy who can get hot for a stretch when it counts.

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08-26-2013, 01:10 PM
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Crosby is the best player on team Canada
Kunitz has the most chemistry with him so why not?
If chemistry was your primary concern, I could see one making an argument for Kunitz on Crosby's LW, but then you went completely wrong putting Giroux and Crosby on the same line. Their dislike for each other is well documented.

Also, where is Toews, Nash, Eric Staal, Getzlaf? All these players are considered strong favorites to make the Sochi 2014 team.

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08-26-2013, 01:17 PM
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This is what I have for forwards

Kunitz/Crosby/Giroux
Hall/Stamkos/St. Louis
Couture/Tavares/Perry
Marchand/Bergeron/

I went with chemistry over anything else
Crosby and Kunitz, Stamkos and St. Louis, Marchand and Bergeron
I'm inclined to put Tavares instead of Thornton. Tavares just seems more competitive imo
This is one of the worst Team Canada lineups I've seen on this board in weeks.

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08-26-2013, 01:21 PM
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Hall-J. Staal-U of C player
That line is just lethal


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08-26-2013, 01:28 PM
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This is one of the worst Team Canada lineups I've seen on this board in weeks.
Chemistry is very important. You can't just put a bunch of a stars together and expect them to dominate
I have 3 pairings of players who play on the same line on their respective teams
Worst team my ass

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08-26-2013, 01:33 PM
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Chemistry is very important. You can't just put a bunch of a stars together and expect them to dominate
I have 3 pairings of players who play on the same line on their respective teams
Worst team my ass
Mike Babcock disagrees:

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Still, Team Canada coach Mike Babcock said the Hawks' familiarity with each other won't be a significant determining factor on who makes the roster. It's all about ability.

"The guys that play the best are going to be on the team the guys that can skate, the guys take care of the puck (and) the guys that play 200 feet," Babcock said. "This (camp) is an opportunity to get to know one another, get some sense of how we're going to play and understand what it's going to take. In the end, the management team's going to watch them very closely the first three months. Whoever's playing the best will be on the team."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...tory?track=rss

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08-26-2013, 01:35 PM
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Toews has to make the team, hands down. You break it down and he is the best 5-on-5 goal scorers in the league over the last 3 years. How many people realize just how close he is to Stamkos?

Toews, 39 goals per 1528 minutes 5 on 5 = .0255...

Stamkos, 55 goals per 2142 minutes 5 on 5 = .0256...


http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Todd-...7#.UhufI9JgSHc

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08-26-2013, 02:07 PM
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I just realized from my own experience on Olympic ice that you need your fastest players on center (where in the NHL you want your fastest players on the wing.)

This is because on olympic ice you need to be doing outlet passes. The center always needs to be an outlet for the winger. This can be mitigated if the other wingers rove over to center after the breakout, but it would then leave a huge gap open if you lose the puck.

For that reason, i'm not sure i would want Getzlaf or Tavares playing center on the big ice.

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08-26-2013, 02:22 PM
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Crosby is the best player on team Canada
Kunitz has the most chemistry with him so why not?
Because there are far better players than him. It's Crosby, he's the best player in the world, he should be able to find chemistry with someone else.

Chemistry is nice and putting teammates together is nice. But they have to be among the best. Getzlaf and Perry is a good combo for example.

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08-26-2013, 02:29 PM
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You guys are delusional if you think Dubnyk will make Team Canada. In no certain order:

Stamkos-Crosby-Nash
Duschene-Toews-Lucic
Perry-Giroux-Getzlaf
Ladd-Tavares-Couture
Bergeron
E Staal
Thornton- Taxi
St Louis- Taxi

Weber-Subban
Doughty-Seabrook
Keith-Letang
Boyle
Petriangelo

Price
Luongo
Crawford - Alternate
I still stand by my initial roster prior to the orientation camp invitees were announced. I think these lines work. Lucic...well we'll see, i had him bolded but based on what they are saying about footspeed and awareness yesterday, I'd think he might not make the team. Replace him with Thornton or St Louis. Same goes with Ladd to a certain extent.

Defensively I like Seabrook and Keith probably teaming up together, but wouldn't be surprised if they were split.

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08-26-2013, 02:45 PM
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Stamkos - Crosby - St Louis
Hall - Tavares - Giroux
Couture - Toews - Sharp
Nash - Bergeron - Richards
Getzlaf
Staal

Keith - Weber
Bouwmeester - Pietragelo
Hamhuis - Doughty
Subban
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this seems to be a consensus and it pretty unfair to Hall. Last year, there was no inter-conference play. The East was less defensive. The result was that the top 5 Canadian scorers were from the East.

That does not make them better than anyone from the top 5 from the West.

In the Western conference, Hall was the top scorer. A case could be made that he would be a top 2 or 3 Canadian scorer with a full interlocking schedule. He is also probably the fastest Canadian forward.

How do you completely leave him off the team?
Hall is a great player but his play style is not conducive to a disciplined style of play at this point in time. If there are older vets that can provide close to the offense and be better at the defensive side they will go in that direction.

Also he did not play great and didn't seem to have the trust of the world team this past year which was a bit of an audition.

From a skill stand point he deserves to be in the mix for sure but I just don't think they will go for him this time.

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Why does TSN have Nash as an absolute lock?

11/12 = Nash 0.71 PPG Hall 0.86 PPG
12/13 = Nash 0.95 PPG Hall 1.11 PPG

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