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08-23-2013, 01:35 PM
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Ok...so two issues..1. you be the coach..how would you set up our lines and d-pairs for this Rookies Tournament for giving us the best chance to win it with this roster? 2. What record will our Rookies Team achieve in the 3 games? I assume they will go to shoot-outs if necessary to decide games after regulatkon and OT if still a tied score.. My hunch is either that we dominate and go 3-0 sending Hawks fans into delerium about how good our pipeline is..OR they get beaten in all 3 games with our two vaunted first rounders MCNeill and Danault doing nada and held pointless...well it will at least be interesting to see how we stack up against other nhl teams rookies squads to see if our pipeline is indeed deep or whether our hype machines.must be tempered back down a notch...of course. TT and others like Clendening and Dahlbeck are not in this tournament so you could say not the best rookies squad we might assemble..but this probably is also true for a couple of our opponents too...it is simple...those we do have there must shine or at leazt hold their own..but if we get dominated then the critics will be on our top brass for over-estimating how great they allegedly are in selecting talent...so it will be vsry interesting to get some answerz.
I don't agree that the win/loss will be one extreme or the other, but I do agree with you that there will be plenty of Hawk fan hyperventilation one way or the other.

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08-26-2013, 08:46 AM
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Alert to Blackhawks fans living in Ottawa and Toronto...the local Rogers cable channel in both cities will show some games of this tournament...in Ottawa they will show all 3 games of the Senators Rookies. ..so I will get to see them play against the Hawks Rookies ib that game on the Saturday of the tournament..Not sure if the Toronto Rogers cable station is also only showing the 3 games of the Leafs Rookies orother games ss well..but Blackhawks fans in Toronto get to see at least one Hawks Rookies game vs. Leafs Rookies.. Not sure if the Rogers cable channel in London ON is showing all the games or none...the latter might be the case to protect ticket sales...but again I am not certain what they will do.

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08-26-2013, 09:45 AM
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Rogers TV in Toronto is showing the Chicago/Toronto game on Sept. 5 at 7. I don't know about the others. Maybe they'll be on Leafs t.v.

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08-26-2013, 02:48 PM
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The London Rogers channel will show all the games, as they did in 2010.

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08-27-2013, 09:02 AM
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mark mcneill will be at the nhlpa rookie showcase sept 2/3.

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08-27-2013, 07:14 PM
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mark mcneill will be at the nhlpa rookie showcase sept 2/3.
Adam Clendening as well, no? Saw a tweet that they (McNeill/Clendening) were playing NHL14 with Matt Dumba at the showcase.

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08-27-2013, 08:38 PM
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Robin Norell, your 111th overall pick from this summer is looking real good.

Have seen him play against men in a handfull of games in the pre-season tournament European Trophy now.

He looks smart, reads the play well, very calm, can throw his body around and his slapshot from the point is arguably the best slapshot on the team. And he is born 1995 playing with men now, insane. He can really fire it. He once fired four shots from the point in the same shift. All of them forced the goalie to make a save and got through to him.

Djurgården (his team) has left one spot open for a d-man on their roster and they say they will give it to their best juniorplayer, looks like Norell will grab it. Good news for you if he is playing against men from the start of this season already.

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08-27-2013, 08:51 PM
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Adam Clendening as well, no? Saw a tweet that they (McNeill/Clendening) were playing NHL14 with Matt Dumba at the showcase.
yeah, you're right. here's the roster: http://www.nhlpa.com/news/2013-nhlpa...owcase-preview

wonder why them over danault.

hopefully next year it will be teuvo

also, it's weird that press release says it's happening on sept 2 - it sounds like it's happening right now (and pretty much over)

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08-27-2013, 10:11 PM
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Robin Norell, your 111th overall pick from this summer is looking real good.

Have seen him play against men in a handfull of games in the pre-season tournament European Trophy now.

He looks smart, reads the play well, very calm, can throw his body around and his slapshot from the point is arguably the best slapshot on the team. And he is born 1995 playing with men now, insane. He can really fire it. He once fired four shots from the point in the same shift. All of them forced the goalie to make a save and got through to him.

Djurgården (his team) has left one spot open for a d-man on their roster and they say they will give it to their best juniorplayer, looks like Norell will grab it. Good news for you if he is playing against men from the start of this season already.
How much ice-time is Norell projected to get this year? >10 minutes?

I like all the Swedish Dmen the Hawks took this year. They all sound promising.

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08-27-2013, 10:16 PM
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How much ice-time is Norell projected to get this year? >10 minutes?

I like all the Swedish Dmen the Hawks took this year. They all sound promising.
Difficult. We have eight defenseman including Norell right now, three young ones. If you asked me a couple of weeks ago I'd would have sworn he would have played another year in our junior system. But it looks like he might snag a spot here. He has been playing that well. And you know, injuries will occur too. I dont know what's best for him. 25 minutes per game in the juniors or 10-15 minutes per game playing against men in the first team.

His shoting increases his chances to play in the first team, he should have a powerplay spot with that shot of his.

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08-29-2013, 07:21 PM
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here is a video on that rookie orientation camp. saad was also there

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=442755

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Seems like TT has scored twice against HIFK; http://europeantrophy.com/live.php?id=275

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Jokerit beat HIFK 2-0 in European Trophy, Teräväinen scored both goals.

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But was still mostly invisible..

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But was still mostly invisible..
I don't understand how someone who scores two goals in the game (and the only ones scored) can be "mostly invisible." That aside, a couple of the Finnish posters said he played really well.

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But was still mostly invisible..
Sarcasm?

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But was still mostly invisible..
Not this time. His best game as center with Jokerit.

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Yes, that post was sarcasm. Seems like every post about TT from Finnish posters in this thread recently have been about how "invisible" TT was in a game.

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Thanks for the highlights Jussi.

That showed two of TT's best assets - his ability to see a big hit coming and be able to duck it (literally that time, and still made the pass) and his big-time shot.

And he's still only 18 - turns 19 on Sept. 11th. It's going to be fun watching this kid grow over the next few years, both literally and figuratively.

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Yes, that post was sarcasm. Seems like every post about TT from Finnish posters in this thread recently have been about how "invisible" TT was in a game.
ha ha ha. i missed that then. sorry.

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Sarcasm?
From Hoss? Never!

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Yes, that post was sarcasm. Seems like every post about TT from Finnish posters in this thread recently have been about how "invisible" TT was in a game.
That's because he was invisible in those games 5-on-5.

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But was still mostly invisible..
I guess when he starts to dominate, you will see posts on that to the point you will want to make sarcastic remarks of it also. I expect Teravainen to be mostly invisible still this season in FEL in 5 on 5, and that's quite much better than to see him constantly as a defensive liability. He will dominate on PP already at least that's what I'll start expecting of him as the season goes on. It doesn't mean he can't dominate 5 on 5 game in U20 WJC or other games against his age group.

19 years old prospects (even the very top ones) usually don't dominate against professional competition in 5on5, except "crosbies" and "ovechkins". Expecting that of Teravainen is at best premature. Mikko Koivu as a 21 year old 6'2 190lbs center had 30 points in FEL, and he was hardly dominating the competition and still he became a fine top 6 player for Minnesota. Those expecting much more of Teravainen's 19 year old season (while learning the center position) will probably be left unimpressed I'm afraid.

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For the Canadians, Sportsnet is featuring the London Knights in their 'behind the scenes' memorial cup run series

http://www.ourhometown.ca/hockey/MR0179.php

They ran the same series last year with the Blades and I found it enjoyable enough.

So assuming Broadhurst is back there then I guess we'll see him. Even if he isn't it should still be a good series.

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I guess when he starts to dominate, you will see posts on that to the point you will want to make sarcastic remarks of it also. I expect Teravainen to be mostly invisible still this season in FEL in 5 on 5, and that's quite much better than to see him constantly as a defensive liability. He will dominate on PP already at least that's what I'll start expecting of him as the season goes on. It doesn't mean he can't dominate 5 on 5 game in U20 WJC or other games against his age group.

19 years old prospects (even the very top ones) usually don't dominate against professional competition in 5on5, except "crosbies" and "ovechkins". Expecting that of Teravainen is at best premature. Mikko Koivu as a 21 year old 6'2 190lbs center had 30 points in FEL, and he was hardly dominating the competition and still he became a fine top 6 player for Minnesota. Those expecting much more of Teravainen's 19 year old season (while learning the center position) will probably be left unimpressed I'm afraid.
To be fair, it's only natural that people get a bit short when the updates on a prospect are lukewarm (esp. a 1st round pick that everyone is - justifiably, i'd say - excited about).

In any event, you raise a good point about people being reasonable in their expectations about how he's going to be with his 5 on 5 play.

Still, just keep the updates coming - even the lukewarm ones - because I know for me (and, i assume, most others) it's pretty difficult (or even impossible) to see his games...so it's nice to hear how he's playing.

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