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09-03-2013, 10:00 AM
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Yeah, Stepan extension needs to happen like. Now.

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09-03-2013, 10:44 AM
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Marc Staal among the #NYR taking part in pre-camp workout today...Staal wearing tinted visor

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09-03-2013, 10:46 AM
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09-03-2013, 12:40 PM
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Nice to see so many of the players taking part in pre-camp workouts. Looks like Stepan, Boyle, Pouliot, Powe, Girardi, Biron are the only guys missing.

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09-03-2013, 12:47 PM
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Nice to see so many of the players taking part in pre-camp workouts. Looks like Stepan, Boyle, Pouliot, Powe, Girardi, Biron are the only guys missing.
Girardi had been there though

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09-03-2013, 01:03 PM
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Girardi has been in New York for a while. His wife gave birth to a baby girl a few weeks ago. Girardi was in the early group of players skating a few weeks ago. He has skated almost everyday except for today.

Boyle was skating last week.

Both players have skated at the Rangers facility in Greenburgh.

AV is supposed to meet with the players this week.

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09-03-2013, 01:10 PM
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Yeah, Stepan extension needs to happen like. Now.
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Tough sledding for NYR/RFA Derek Stepan. Player seeks McDonagh $ (6 x $4.7M) but no arb rights, NYR holding firm on Subban level bridge deal

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09-03-2013, 01:11 PM
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This makes it sound like they are miles apart, and that is a scary thing to read.

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09-03-2013, 01:12 PM
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2 years/$5.75M/$2.875M

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Sign the contract.

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09-03-2013, 01:19 PM
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The McDonagh $4.7M includes 3 years of group III. Stepan needs to sign the two year deal and get ass into camp on time. Camp doesn't start for another week. Perform. He will get a long-term deal worth $5M in his next contract.

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09-03-2013, 01:37 PM
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Yawn. Players need to cut the ******** and just sign the deals. What are you waiting for? The offer won't improve.

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09-03-2013, 01:40 PM
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Read this last week

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The Sabres’ likely No. 1 center is looking for a long-term, big-money deal at a time when the club would clearly prefer giving him a “bridge” contract to follow up his entry-level pact. Think the two-year, $5.6 million deal that Tyler Ennis signed in 2012.

Hodgson, Henrique, Nazem Kadri of Toronto and Derek Stepan of the New York Rangers were all in a similar boat, with their teams waiting it out and seemingly not wanting to offer the big money. Henrique may have set the kind of market price the Sabres want to go nowhere near.

Nor should they. Henrique was a Calder Trophy finalist in a year when his team went to the 2012 Stanley Cup final — and he became the first rookie ever to score two series-clinching overtime goals. Hodgson has yet to show he’s anywhere near that kind of player, and his defensive-zone metrics were among the worst in the NHL last year.

Hodgson’s agent is Ritch Winter, who has a history of contentiousness with the Sabres dating back to his days as Dominik Hasek’s representative. Winter and Darcy Regier have spent the summer talking with no success.

His agent will say otherwise, but Hodgson doesn’t have much leverage here based on past performance. He should take the bridge deal, get in camp and prove his worth so that in two years he can take his real kick at the free agent can.
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The Rangers don't have the space for give Stepan McDonagh money. McDonagh signed his ELC at 21. Stepan signed at 20. McDonagh needed 3 years for arbitration. Stepan needs 4.

Kadri said he didn't care the Leafs didn't have the space to give him John Tavares money because that's not his problem. Dumb ass.

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09-03-2013, 01:43 PM
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If veteran left winger Simon Gagne is patient, he may return to the Flyers for the 2013-14 season.

The Flyers cannot offer the unrestricted free agent a contract because they do not have cap space at the moment, but general manager Paul Holmgren said he was “kicking around” inviting Gagne to the team’s camp next week on a tryout basis.

“But I’m sure he’s getting calls from other teams, too,” Holmgren said on Tuesday. “I have no gut feeling” as to what Gagne will do. Gagne’s agent, Bob Sauve, was not available to comment.

The Flyers are about $1 million over the $64.3 million cap; they will gain $4.9 million of cap relief, however, when Chris Pronger is put on the long-term injured list when the season starts. That would give them more than enough room to sign Gagne, 33, who collected five goals and 11 points in 27 games after being acquired from Los Angeles last season.
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Teams are lining up for Gagne.

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Confirmed now: Dvorak is coming to Canes camp on tryout.
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09-03-2013, 01:52 PM
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2 years/$5.75M/$2.875M

PK Subban
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Sign the contract.
Yup. Sign the contract, work hard, earn big money next time. I don't understand how or why players hold out in this position. Nothing good can come it. Absolutely nothing.

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09-03-2013, 01:53 PM
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Jim Rutherford to discuss Pitkanen situation soon. Sounds serious.
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McKenzie tweeted there is something wrong with Pitkanen who broke his heel last season. He hasn't skated and could miss the start of the season. Pitkanen will see the doctor again tomorrow. There is always something wrong with Pitkanen.

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09-03-2013, 01:55 PM
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Yawn. Players need to cut the ******** and just sign the deals. What are you waiting for? The offer won't improve.
Unfortunately, this is how the game is played.

They can't give in too easy now... it sets a bad precident.

He'll be in camp.

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09-03-2013, 01:56 PM
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id love to give stepan that money for 8 years quite honestly

blow out powe pyatt johnson and you're there.

that bridge contract for a player like this will be even more money down the road.

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09-03-2013, 02:02 PM
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09-03-2013, 02:16 PM
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Rutherford: Pitkanen probably will not be able to start season. Lindholm may miss some games in Traverse City.
https://twitter.com/ice_chip/status/374970796432982016

Lindholm hurt his shoulder at the Canes prospects camp in July. It wasn't supposed to be a serious injury.

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09-03-2013, 02:22 PM
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Yawn. Players need to cut the ******** and just sign the deals. What are you waiting for? The offer won't improve.
Stepan solidified the #1C spot on this team last season. He is every bit as important as McDonagh. I dont blame him one bit for holding out even though it won't accomplish much.

And who's to say the offer won't improve? What if Brassard and Richards both slip on a banana peel and rip up their knees? I expect your type of complaint about the situation to increase in the next couple weeks -- all the patience of a petulant child.

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09-03-2013, 02:24 PM
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Stepan solidified the #1C spot on this team last season. He is every bit as important as McDonagh. I dont blame him one bit for holding out even though it won't accomplish much.
McDonagh was arbitration eligible and was only three years from UFA status. Not all too comparable.

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I understand why Stepan and his agent want a long-term deal now - he is coming off a great season and there's always the risk that he may not maintain or improve upon it, so go for the money now while his value is high.

But Stepan doesn't have leverage and I'm sure the front office would like to see if he can replicate last year's success before they throw money and years at him. Sather usually has his RFAs sign a bridge deal before he signs them to their first "big" contract and Stepan is no exception. We've seen this song and dance before with Dubi and Staal, so one would think that the agents would learn that Sather usually doesn't budge in these scenarios, but most agents feel as if their client is "special" so it won't deter them from trying to drag it out.

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