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09-05-2013, 11:36 AM
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Feaster said a few months ago that the owner expected them to make the playoffs this year. It wasn't a rebuild.
Shouldn't be too hard when they are in a much better place than Vancouver, Phoenix, San Jose, Anaheim, Los Angeles, and us.

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09-05-2013, 11:39 AM
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I will enjoy watching Calgary finish 30th this year. Hopefully Burke will force Feaster to trade away their 1st for some "testosterone", and then let Feaster take the fall if it doesn't work out.

Their 3 highest paid forwards are Cammalleri, Jiri Hudler, and David Jones. They have the worst roster in the NHL, after 10 years of GM incompetence on the part of Daryl Sutter and Jay Feaster.

I guarantee Cammalleri will be asking for a trade, if he hasn't already. Does anyone seriously believe he wants to end his career playing with the junk line-up Feaster has assembled?

The only good news here for Flames fans is that Burke's press conferences will provide some entertainment - which will be a welcome respite from the gongshow on the ice.

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Offer sheet to Kadri is even closer now lol

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We're going to need a gif for Burke and Feaster. I suggest Dink and Doink from WWF.
lol

I'll try to do something later today.

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09-05-2013, 11:42 AM
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I will enjoy watching Calgary finish 30th this year. Hopefully Burke will force Feaster to trade away their 1st for some "testosterone", and then let Feaster take the fall if it doesn't work out.

Their 3 highest paid forwards are Cammalleri, Jiri Hudler, and David Jones. They have the worst roster in the NHL, after 10 years of GM incompetence on the part of Daryl Sutter and Jay Feaster.

I guarantee Cammalleri will be asking for a trade, if he hasn't already. Does anyone seriously believe he wants to end his career playing with the junk line-up Feaster has assembled?

The only good news here for Flames fans is that Burke's press conferences will provide some entertainment - which will be a welcome respite from the gongshow on the ice.
And they'll get plenty of TSN coverage.

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I find it funny how the plan "Lowe concocted" was almost all of HFOils blueprint for a couple of years before Tambo put into motion.
the plan Burke will have the flames taking, was the route Lowe was on and the majority here were fed up with.

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09-05-2013, 11:43 AM
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In hindsight we look like crap, but at the time we had a lot of decent prospects they just didn't pan out. Not sure why CGY all of sudden with their group of prospects is such a shoe in to be any better.
The Oilers had Gagner, Brule, Coglinao and Nilsson...the Flames have Monahan, Baertschi, Reinhart, and Hanowski. Not to mention Granlund.

Which group would you rather have?

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I will enjoy watching Calgary finish 30th this year. Hopefully Burke will force Feaster to trade away their 1st for some "testosterone", and then let Feaster take the fall if it doesn't work out.

Their 3 highest paid forwards are Cammalleri, Jiri Hudler, and David Jones. They have the worst roster in the NHL, after 10 years of GM incompetence on the part of Daryl Sutter and Jay Feaster.

I guarantee Cammalleri will be asking for a trade, if he hasn't already. Does anyone seriously believe he wants to end his career playing with the junk line-up Feaster has assembled?

The only good news here for Flames fans is that Burke's press conferences will provide some entertainment - which will be a welcome respite from the gongshow on the ice.
It's been rumored for awhile Cammy has asked for a deal, whether or not it's true or not I don't know. I just think like Hemsky his salary is too high to trade.

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09-05-2013, 11:45 AM
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Except they don't have a goaltender. Burke builds from the net out and when's the last time he had a good goalie? Giguere?
The Oilers had Khabby. Thats a deficit position if I ever saw one.

I am sure Burke can do better than Khabby.

They do have an intriguing prospect in Laurent Brossoit.

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09-05-2013, 11:46 AM
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The Oilers had Gagner, Brule, Coglinao and Nilsson...the Flames have Monahan, Baertschi, Reinhart, and Hanowski.

Which group would you rather have?
Well, there were these two guys: Eberle and Paajarvi. And then there's Petry.

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Burke and Tortorella in the division in one off-season? Thank you!!

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The Oilers had Gagner, Brule, Coglinao and Nilsson...the Flames have Monahan, Baertschi, Reinhart, and Hanowski.

Which group would you rather have?
The one that has actually played a full NHL season? Baertschi is by no means a slam dunk and was injured most of this year.

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The Oilers had Gagner, Brule, Coglinao and Nilsson...the Flames have Monahan, Baertschi, Reinhart, and Hanowski.

Which group would you rather have?
Calgary's ascent will expose Lowe's rebuild as sheer incompetence. Oiler fans looking for a lottery pick for Calgary will be disappointed. Their supporting cast is quite good, and if Ramo doesn't bust, they won't be in our rear view for long.

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The Oilers had Gagner, Brule, Coglinao and Nilsson...the Flames have Monahan, Baertschi, Reinhart, and Hanowski.

Which group would you rather have?
We also had Pouilot, Jacques, Schremp, Dubnyk, Plante, Nash, etc...

I like Monahan and Baerschi, but Reinhart and Hanowski no so much. And it's not like any of those guys other than Baertschi should be able to do anything anytime soon. CGY still has some years to go.

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The Oilers had Khabby. Thats a deficit position if I ever saw one.

I am sure Burke can do better than Khabby.

They do have an intriguing prospect in Laurent Brossoit.
Can he though? Remember the sell job on the monster? Now where is he?

And prospects are just that. As of right now the flames have MacDonald and Ramo, neither of which are starting material.

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Well, there were these two guys: Eberle and Paajarvi. And then there's Petry.
I am looking at the years before Eberle arrived.
Eberles and Paajarvis first seasons were 2010 IIRC.

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Calgary's ascent will expose Lowe's rebuild as sheer incompetence. Oiler fans looking for a lottery pick for Calgary will be disappointed. Their supporting cast is quite good, and if Ramo doesn't bust, they won't be in our rear view for long.
Talk about no pressure

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Calgary's ascent will expose Lowe's rebuild as sheer incompetence. Oiler fans looking for a lottery pick for Calgary will be disappointed. Their supporting cast is quite good, and if Ramo doesn't bust, they won't be in our rear view for long.
Agreed. With the Oiler sunglasses off there really isnt a lot to be celebratory about.

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I am looking at the years before Eberle arrived.
Eberles and Paajarvis first seasons were 2010 IIRC.
Then why the hell are Monahan being considered on the Flames.

He sure as hell hasn't arrived.

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Calgary's ascent will expose Lowe's rebuild as sheer incompetence. Oiler fans looking for a lottery pick for Calgary will be disappointed. Their supporting cast is quite good, and if Ramo doesn't bust, they won't be in our rear view for long.
I assume you're joking. They have some decent prospects but they aren't ready to lead the Flames upward anytime soon. Ramo already busted once in the NHL, and there's little behind him.

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Can he though? Remember the sell job on the monster? Now where is he?

And prospects are just that. As of right now the flames have MacDonald and Ramo, neither of which are starting material.
Lets just say that Burke is a hell of a lot better at his job than Lowe...so yes, I think he can do better than Mr 6 rings at acquiring a decent veteran goaltender to help with a rebuild.

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Agreed. With the Oiler sunglasses off there really isnt a lot to be celebratory about.
Except there's no real basis for this other than the usual Lowe bashing.

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Lets just say that Burke is a hell of a lot better at his job than Lowe...so yes, I think he can do better than Mr 6 rings at acquiring a decent veteran goaltender to help with a rebuild.
Then why did he fail at doing specifically that in 4 years in Toronto?

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Klimchuk compares well to Eberle pre-draft or in the season that followed (world juniors omitted), but the issue with the comparison between Klimchuk and what Eberle is now - is it was not reasonable to project Eberle to what he became. I honestly don't feel like Klimchuk is as smart of a player, but time will tell.

Baertschi's progression stalled, Eberle's never did. Eberle has outperformed him at every level at the same age. Difficult to say Baertschi will be or has a strong chance of becoming a 34 goal scorer in the NHL within two years.

Don't get me wrong - it's an okay pre-rebuild start for the Flames - but there probably are not superstars in that grouping - just strong supporting players. If it were me, I'd be patient with Monahan and reserve myself at drafting in the top-2 for the next two years or so. If they more smartly manage their player acquisition at the professional level, they may rebuild faster.

I have no faith in either Jay Feaster or Brian Burke to accomplish that for them.
Eberle stalled last year when he got fat.

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We also had Pouilot, Jacques, Schremp, Dubnyk, Plante, Nash, etc...
None of these players (excpet maybe Dubnyk) is a legit NHL player.

Just goes to show how bare the cupboards were for the Oilers back then.

Calgary is in a much better position now.


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I like Monahan and Baerschi, but Reinhart and Hanowski no so much. And it's not like any of those guys other than Baertschi should be able to do anything anytime soon. CGY still has some years to go.
Agree on that but I think they will get it done about 3 years quicker in their rebuild than than it takes the Oilers to complete their rebuild.

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