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09-07-2013, 04:20 PM
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He sucked and was too expensive to have on the pro roster anyway. Now he's a free agent no one will sign, ever.
He was also injured much of that time. Flyers had to carry him (on LTIR) on NHL roster all last season for that reason.

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Be a great add for ahl and playoff depth. with walker gone the veteran farmhand spot is open

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I think Mez and his $4 mil contract are gone
agreed..

i bet they have a deal in place just waiting for medical clearance.

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09-07-2013, 06:31 PM
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He sucked and was too expensive to have on the pro roster anyway. Now he's a free agent no one will sign, ever.
i disagree walker is not the best player but every time he play a game with the flyers he standing up for his teammates

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i disagree walker is not the best player but every time he play a game with the flyers he standing up for his teammates
We had/have plenty of guys that can do that & some of them have an actual skill set on top of it. Walker was terrible, there's really no arguments to be made here to suggest otherwise.

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09-07-2013, 06:38 PM
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Be a great add for ahl and playoff depth. with walker gone the veteran farmhand spot is open
Seems like they always want one of those guys, last year they had Lilja too. Thing is this d-man log jam extends to the AHL also. Just assume for a minute Mez is moved and Gervias is the 7th d-man and Gill is assigned to ADK. They'll have Alt, Manning, Lauridsen, Konan and Lamarche with all but guaranteed roster spots. Add a healthy Bourdon and the re-signed Fitz in there, not to mention Hostetter and Eddy. Fitz could be used as a forward again but It's not like they couldn't use that spot for one of the many new forwards (Cousins, Straka, Alderson, Flanagan, Raffl, Newberry) and Hostetter could go back to the ECHL. Eddy isn't exactly in the teams long term plans even though he was a main stay on the back end last season so I guess he could sit out. Still the point stands, there doesn't seem to be much room for him down there.

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I think Mez is out. D winds up looking like this:

Timonen-Schenn
Coburn-Streit
Grossmann-Gus
Gervais/Gil

Gervais or Gil are both fine #7 d-men.
I thought so too but for some reason now I'm not so sure. Maybe it's cause Tim P reported otherwise .

That is the d-core I had in my head a few weeks back and I kinda like it. To be honest though I really don't see how Gill is an improvement over Gervais at #7, I mean he's 38 and Gervais isn't that bad in small doses with sheltered minutes.

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09-07-2013, 06:51 PM
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We had/have plenty of guys that can do that & some of them have an actual skill set on top of it. Walker was terrible, there's really no arguments to be made here to suggest otherwise.
only rosehill i talk about heavyweight

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only rosehill i talk about heavyweight
Walker wasn't a heavyweight. He was solid at fighting but nothing to write home about. Besides there's no reason to waste a spot on a goon that plays on the backend.

You only need one goon in today's NHL & he doesn't have to play every game like it or not.

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This makes no sense to me unless Meszaros has no chance of playing. Plus Gill is a pylon. No thanks.

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09-07-2013, 07:37 PM
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Walker wasn't a heavyweight. He was solid at fighting but nothing to write home about. Besides there's no reason to waste a spot on a goon that plays on the backend.

You only need one goon in today's NHL & he doesn't have to play every game like it or not.
1.walker tko rosehill and win vs a solid heavyweight if is not heavyweight is a very good fighter
2.i agree but erskine elbowing simmonds last years? rinaldo fight hendricks

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1.walker tko rosehill and win vs a solid heavyweight if is not heavyweight is a very good fighter
2.i agree but erskine elbowing simmonds last years? rinaldo fight hendricks
I don't get this thinking. Why do we always need a "heavyweight"?

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I don't get this thinking. Why do we always need a "heavyweight"?
People still caught up in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s.

Trust me, I loved that Flyers team with Brash, Fridge, and McAllister, among others...but you don't need it anymore. Talent is so deep in the NHL, a team can easily ice 12 talented players who can affect both sides of the ice. If teams want to blow a roster spot on a Erskine, Bissonette or MacIntyre for a game, let them. They'll ride pine for 57 minutes a night while the opposition can roll fresher, more skilled lines.

I like Jay Rosehill and all, but I hope he doesn't have to dress for the team all season.

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1.walker tko rosehill and win vs a solid heavyweight if is not heavyweight is a very good fighter
2.i agree but erskine elbowing simmonds last years? rinaldo fight hendricks
I don't see how this correlates to Walker being a good player. He was literally the Jody Shelley of the defense, useless player with a bigger cap hit than he deserved.

I don't care about the response, I was more mad we lost the game than that. You don't need to ice an entire lineup full goons, it's hockey not boxing & this is coming from a person who enjoys a good scrap every once in a while too.

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People still caught up in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s.

Trust me, I loved that Flyers team with Brash, Fridge, and McAllister, among others...but you don't need it anymore. Talent is so deep in the NHL, a team can easily ice 12 talented players who can affect both sides of the ice. If teams want to blow a roster spot on a Erskine, Bissonette or MacIntyre for a game, let them. They'll ride pine for 57 minutes a night while the opposition can roll fresher, more skilled lines.

I like Jay Rosehill and all, but I hope he doesn't have to dress for the team all season.
I wouldn't really lump him in there with the other two. He's a solid bottom pairing guy who just happens to fight here & there but not anywhere in the other two guys you mentioned range.

The other two are always in the double digits for the year for fights while Erskine hasn't been in a long time now.

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Maybe he was brought on so that Morin would know how not to be a pylon?

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Maybe he was brought on so that Morin would know how not to be a pylon?
Gill is a pylon himself, so, no.

Don't mind it if he had a legitimate chance to make the team, but with 9 defensemen on one-way contracts, it seems unlikely.

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That is the d-core I had in my head a few weeks back and I kinda like it. To be honest though I really don't see how Gill is an improvement over Gervais at #7, I mean he's 38 and Gervais isn't that bad in small doses with sheltered minutes.
I don't know if he's an upgrade, I think it's just another NHL player to have as an option. Outside of the top 7 currently on the roster (excluding Gil), there is no one with legitimate NHL experience. If Bourdon is healthy I'd be fine with going without Gil, but IDK how that is going. Gil is not going to be expected to come in and get top four minutes. He's just another option for #7. The Mannings and Alts of the world, while possibly good options for the future, shouldn't be counted on to get a call up if there is an injury situation. Gil is nothing more than insurance.

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I assume if he sticks, he mentors the young farm kids on HOW TO play the position well, which is something Gill does well and has for so long. He s a PK specialist and can help with that facet of the game too. I do think it's all for insurance and to push the cusp D men we have, the 5-7 types to show something in camp that makes the management say they can't pass them up.

I'm never oppose to have more bodies at camp to compete.

At worst he is 6/7th due to injury (hopefully none happen)
At best he is a mentor for those that don't stick in the AHL a la Lilja last year.

win-win.

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Hal Gill is so 2010.......just a big body anymore and yes an oversized cone. Don't expect much out of him plus I disliked him when he was in Pit..

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He's healthy.
He will be cleared once the excamination will get done at the Skate Zone.

Gill won't be anything more than a #7 insurance policy.
Wow thought that this was supposed to be in June and a trade that followed. Can't really trade him if hrs not cleared

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I'm assuming any contract offered would be under the range where he would be any Cap liability if in the AHL and he would, as others have stated, be a depth call up if needed and a mentor and AHL player if not needed.

While that is all well and good... is he worth a Contract Slot? I believe that might be the last... or at the very least one of a precious few... Does that mean Homer may be somehow moving contracts for low future picks to needy Organizations?

FWIW, I liked Gill in the past and wanted him in for what he did back a couple/few seasons... what does he have left besides great size and much experience... is there gas in the tank to play AHL season and limited minutes in a call up? Can he still do the job?... I imagine the TryOut will answer some of that. Nothing to lose in window-shopping I suppose.


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I'm assuming any contract offered would be under the range were he would be any Cap liability if in the AHL and he would, as others have stated, be a depth call up if needed and a mentor and AHL player if not needed.

While that is all well and good... is he worth a Contract Slot? I believe that might be the last... or at the very least one of a precious few... Does that mean Homer may be somehow moving contracts for low future picks to needy Organizations?

FWIW, I liked Gill in the past and wanted him in for what he did back a couple/few seasons... what does he have left besides great size and much experience... is there gas in the tank to play AHL season and limited minutes in a call up? Can he still do the job?... I imagine the TryOut will answer some of that. Nothing to lose in window-shopping I suppose.
If I counted correctly the Flyers are at 45. I counted all contracts listed on cap geek so I don't know if there are others out there, but cap geek has 45 (with two or three having slide possibilities). I don't think the contract limit is a problem at this point.

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Maybe he was brought on so that Morin would know how not to be a pylon?
I don't see what Gill can teach him that Pronger can't.

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