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09-07-2013, 06:13 PM
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ELLER ONLY GAINED 7 POUNDS. PER THE ARTICLE


In fact, he said he reported to camp at 213, knowing he’d lose two or three pounds during the season.

Fit, healthy Eller itching to get back

Everyone keeps taking the fact that the Habs guide listed him at 201 last year. If people took time to read the article, they would realize, he didn't gain 19 pounds. There is a 19 pound difference between his current weight and the incorrect info in the Habs guide of last year.

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09-07-2013, 07:44 PM
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Unless you're genetically gifted, realistic muscle gains with the right training and diet is about 1.5-2 lbs a month. 19 lbs of muscle in one offseason is downright impossible.

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Unless you're genetically gifted, realistic muscle gains with the right training and diet is about 1.5-2 lbs a month. 19 lbs of muscle in one offseason is downright impossible.
Big buff can gain 50 pounds of sleeping muscles in one off season... cut the lies down please.


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09-07-2013, 09:42 PM
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People need to stop quoting weights from the team guide. It's fiction. People also have to stop equating weight with the term 'size' as used in hockey discussions.

Eller is getting 'bigger' because his legs are stronger. 2 years ago he could barely go 2 shifts in a row without falling down. He's become stronger and learned to use that strength.

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09-07-2013, 09:50 PM
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I remember Lars talking about the amount of weight he loses each game, somewhere between 5-10 lbs.
Losing 10 lbs. in one game??


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09-07-2013, 10:01 PM
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Losing 10 lbs. in one game??

Not bloody likely if the player is re-hydrating properly.

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09-07-2013, 10:15 PM
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Not bloody likely if the player is re-hydrating properly.
That's what I thought. 10 lbs in such short time means you're completely dehydrated and will faint at some point.

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09-07-2013, 10:40 PM
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That's what I thought. 10 lbs in such short time means you're completely dehydrated and will faint at some point.
IIRC there was article on Giguere losing 15 lbs, because of dehydration each game, before switching to gatorade.

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09-07-2013, 10:49 PM
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IIRC there was article on Giguere losing 15 lbs, because of dehydration each game, before switching to gatorade.
Please stop being a shill for Gatorade .

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09-08-2013, 09:54 AM
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Please stop being a shill for Gatorade .
but electrolytes

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09-08-2013, 10:06 AM
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but electrolytes
marathon runners burn about 1 pound of fat off in a typical run, and manage to keep their weight steady through hydration by consuming 500ml-750ml of fluids per hour. There is no effing way that JS Giguere can lose 15 pounds in one game. It would mean his body would have had to lose 7 litres of water. He'd be dead.

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marathon runners burn about 1 pound of fat off in a typical run, and manage to keep their weight steady through hydration by consuming 500ml-750ml of fluids per hour. There is no effing way that JS Giguere can lose 15 pounds in one game. It would mean his body would have had to lose 7 litres of water. He'd be dead.
So you're saying that Gatorade saves Giguere's life?

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09-08-2013, 10:48 AM
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People lose 10-15 lbs during one game of hockey ?

That should be the new diet plan.

Khabibulin must lose 20+ lbs a game since he has a condition that causes him to sweat profusely. So much so he has had to drill holes in his skates to let the sweat escape.

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09-08-2013, 11:49 AM
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Please stop being a shill for Gatorade .
Damn you caught me !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-S%...n_Gigu%C3%A8re

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Giguère suffers from a rare gastric condition that causes his body to take in too much air when he drinks fluids. As a result, his body has difficulty absorbing water, leading to severe dehydration when he sweats.[13] This became the case when he was in the AHL during the 1997-98 season. During one game, he lost 19 pounds, became sick, and was rushed to the hospital.[14] Team doctors in Calgary then discovered the condition.
http://mirtle.blogspot.ca/2007/06/gi...des-snake.html

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Here we go, another thread for the bro science gang to come up...

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09-08-2013, 12:38 PM
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Far be it for me to criticize someone for getting their information from a Gatorade ad, but this is not possible.

A man Giguere's size would have about 50L of body fluid. A loss of 19 pounds would represent roughly 9L of water. That is between 17-18 percent dehydration. Dehydration of 15 percent is fatal.

This information, at least from the POV of the dramatic weight loss, is exaggerated or outright bogus.

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Far be it for me to criticize someone for getting their information from a Gatorade ad, but this is not possible.

A man Giguere's size would have about 50L of body fluid. A loss of 19 pounds would represent roughly 9L of water. That is between 17-18 percent dehydration. Dehydration of 15 percent is fatal.

This information, at least from the POV of the dramatic weight loss, is exaggerated or outright bogus.
You do realize that the wikipedia article has no link to gatorade right ?

Also found on that website http://www.themaskbetweenthepipes.co...-personal.html

He also was rushed to the hospital after the 19 pounds weight lost, so I'm pretty sure it's well documented. He was out some games in his career for dehydration.


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09-08-2013, 12:44 PM
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Since we're talking about Guiggy.

I attended a Habs vs Leafs game and Guiggy was the goalie. behind me there was a guy that cried out loud " YOU SUCK GUIGUÈRE!!". Seriously he must of costed him a whole lot of money or something because you could feel all the bitterness lol.

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09-08-2013, 12:45 PM
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You do realize that the wikipedia article has no link to gatorade right ?
yes, you realize an unattributed wiki article on the internet is not always true?

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yes, you realize an unattributed wiki article on the internet is not always true?
http://kuklaskorner.com/hockey/comme...s_electrolytes

I also edited my other post, how many links by various sources do you need seriously?

There's also a video of him throwing up on the ice during a game in Germany, the heat in the arena was too high and he was dehydrated too much.

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So you're saying that Gatorade saves Giguere's life?
Life yes but pucks no.

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Also if you take into account metabolism, So one person's size is only a piece of the equation. You can't make a generalization and say it holds true to everyone of that size.

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09-08-2013, 01:09 PM
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http://kuklaskorner.com/hockey/comme...s_electrolytes

I also edited my other post, how many links by various sources do you need seriously?

There's also a video of him throwing up on the ice during a game in Germany, the heat in the arena was too high and he was dehydrated too much.
Let's be clear I am only disputing the 19 pounds of weight loss. There are plenty of articles that would suggest a person would long be dead at that level of dehydration.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehydration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_water

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Soooo... back to Eller.

He gained a lot mass during the lockout. He probably toned some of that mass up during the season and continued his workouts this summer. At his height it's easy to fluctuate 4-5 in a few days.

I hope Eller can continue his progression this year. He and Galchenyuk will be fun to watch for the next few years up the middle.


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Here we go, another thread for the bro science gang to come up...
I'm always amazed by how much people are sure they know about exercise physiology and the human body. Truth is, most people who open their mouths know nothing about it.

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