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09-09-2013, 10:52 AM
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Pavel Buchnevich played his second game this weekend. His team was crushed by Barys Astana, 10-1. Buchnevich played 13 minutes and was a -3.

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Corey Pronman's Top 100 NHL Prospects was published today over at ESPN Insider.

41. Chris Kreider
54. Danny Kristo
69. Pavel Buchnevich

Just Missed: Michael St. Croix

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I tend to give a slight emphasis to puck possession skill in my rankings, based on numerous studies that show it is the single best predictive measure of team-level success. Performance is taken into account as a secondary factor, adjusted appropriately for age, team strength, league quality and other contextual elements. Defenders are given slightly less value than forwards of equal skill level because of the higher projection uncertainty inherent in the position.
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Corey Pronman's Top 100 NHL Prospects was published today over at ESPN Insider.

41. Chris Kreider
54. Danny Kristo
69. Pavel Buchnevich

Just Missed: Michael St. Croix

http://insider.espn.go.com/nhl/story...spects-2013-14
Was Miller eligible?

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Was Miller eligible?
Nope. 25 Games in the NHL last season was the cutoff. Miller played 26. Kreider played 23.

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Nope. 25 Games in the NHL last season was the cutoff. Miller played 26. Kreider played 23.
Seems so weird because Kreider has played 26 career playoff games. But whatever, he has to pick a criteria.

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Seems so weird because Kreider has played 26 career playoff games. But whatever, he has to pick a criteria.
Yeah, it feels a bit backwards that Miller has graduated from prospect status and Kreider hasn't. I believe the criteria is the same as the one used for the Calder Trophy this past season.

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The cutoff for prospect eligibility is 25 NHL games played last season or 50 career NHL games, and they have to be age 26 or under as of September 15.

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College Hockey News Preseason top 10

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5. North Dakota (22-13-7/14-7-7 WCHA)

The rich just got a little richer, as Dave Hakstol's recruiting class is among the best in the nation. Defensemen Paul LaDue, Keaton Thompson and Gage Ausmus will immediately jockey for playing time with a set of blue line regulars that includes senior Dillon Simpson, junior Nick Mattson and sophomore Jordan Schmaltz. Offensively, junior Mark MacMillan and redshirt sophomore Rocco Grimaldi will set the tone for first-year skaters like Wade Murphy, Adam Tambellini and Luke Johnson, while Drake Caggiula will take a big step forward in his second season. Replacing talented seniors Corban Knight, Danny Kristo and Carter Rowney will be a big task for the returning and new forwards. The creases in Grand Forks will be tended to by sophomore Zane Gothberg, who took the job from Clarke Saunders, a senior who can, and will seize the opportunity at his first chance.

6. Minnesota (26-9-5/16-7-5 WCHA)

Despite the loss of big-name players like Erik Haula, Mark Alt, Nate Schmidt, Nick Bjugstad and Zach Budish, consider the Gophers a strong contender. They boast an incredibly deep, albeit inexperienced, back end led by sophomores Brady Skjei and Mike Reilly, while freshman Jake Bischoff will challenge for time immediately as a capable offensive quarterback. In net, Adam Wilcox is back and looks to build off a first season that saw him rank among the national leaders in every major category. Kyle Rau and Nate Condon will lead the campaign up front, though the junior trio of Sam Warning, Travis Boyd and Seth Ambroz should help fans forget some of the lost firepower. Expect to see a lot of Hudson Fasching's name on scoresheets this season, as the 6-foot-3 power forward is built to dominate.

7. Notre Dame (25-13-3/17-18-3-2 CCHA)

Hockey East has been waiting for the Irish for a few seasons now, and they won't disappoint. Senior T.J. Tynan has developed into a top-notch playmaker who can also display a deft scoring touch. Classmates Bryan Rust and Jeff Costello stepped up their game as juniors and will be counted upon to show sophomores Mario Lucia, Thomas DiPauli and Steven Fogarty to do the same. Freshman Vince Hinostroza is the small, skilled forward that tends to succeed in Hockey East, and should add to the mix quickly. Defensively, Notre Dame returns a deep set of big, punishing shutdown defensemen that includes seniors Stephen Johns and Kevin Lind, as well as classmate Shayne Taker, who will continue to develop his offensive game and allow Jordan Gross to do the same in his first season. Netminder Steven Summerhays impressed in his first go as a full-time starter, and he'll get a push from 6-foot-4 freshman Chad Katunar.

8. Michigan (18-19-3/10-15-3-3 CCHA)

The Wolverines lost some star power from an underachieving team last season, though they're poised for better this season. Steve Racine's found a high-level of consistency down the stretch, and will be continue his maturation as a sophomore. It will help that senior Mac Bennett returns to lead a young, deep set of blueliners that should see a bigger contribution from junior Brennan Serville. Freshmen defensemen Mike Downing and Nolan De Jong are big, developing talents that could challenge for minutes immediately. Their first-year classmates J.T. Compher and Tyler Motte will add to an offensive unit that features juniors Phil Di Giuseppe and Alex Guptill, as well as sophomore Cristoval Nieves, both of whom are primed to take the reins and lead the frontlines.
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/new...son_top_10.php

Minnesota and Michigan are part of the Big 10 hockey conference. During the Michigan-Notre Dame game,there was a big 10 hockey commercial.

Notre Dame is in Hockey East.

North Dakota is in National Collegiate Hockey Conference. NCHC.

The CCHA is kaput. The WCHA picked up some CCHA teams. Some WCHA teams left for the NCHC.

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Corey Pronman's Top 100 NHL Prospects was published today over at ESPN Insider.

41. Chris Kreider
54. Danny Kristo
69. Pavel Buchnevich

Just Missed: Michael St. Croix



http://insider.espn.go.com/nhl/story...spects-2013-14
Both Lindberg and Fast will have better NHL careers than a large number of players on this list. Just watch...

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The NCAA finals was between two ECAC teams last year, and not a single ECAC team makes the top 10?

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Both Lindberg and Fast will have better NHL careers than a large number of players on this list. Just watch...
It's Corey Pronman. His lists are consistently terrible. You're not making too much of a statement disagreeing with him.

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09-10-2013, 08:22 AM
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Pavel Buchnevich and Severstal are currently down 3-0 to Avangard Omsk. At this point in the season, Severstal has been outscored 14-3. Might be a long year for the kid...

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Demand at trade!

I hope at least he's getting a lot of ice time.

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Demand at trade!

I hope at least he's getting a lot of ice time.
Unfortunately, he's not. His TOI, by game: 17:00, 13:00, 11:30. In this most recent game, he played 3 minutes in the third and just 8 seconds in OT.

Buchnevich on the season: 3GP/0G/0A/0P, -3 with 11SOG.

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09-10-2013, 06:21 PM
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Burmistrov has 4 points in 3 KHL games, averaging 20:50/game. 18 YO NYR prospect Buchnevich getting reg shift, averaging 14 min/game.
https://twitter.com/coreypronman/sta...64841965125632

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To put that kind of usage into perspective, Yakupov averaged 14:24 in the KHL last year. Buchnevich's TOI will be interesting to watch.
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The Pipeline prospects show out of Edmonton picks one player from each organization as a player to watch for that year.

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2012 Choice: Michael St. Croix - The Edmonton Oil Kings leading scorer compiled 92 points including 37 goals. Both his goal and point total were down from the previous season when the team went on to capture the WHL championship. St. Croix had a good, not great year, which didn't help answer my question last summer; is he a NHL prospect or a career minor leaguer? At this point I lean towards the latter.
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Like most young players breaking new ground for themselves at a higher level, Nieves' production was sporadic. I don't know if that is a reflection of his actual performance on the ice or not but the points came in spurts. His most consistent stretch of games came in February when he compiled 10 points in 6 games.

Michigan lists Nieves at 6'3 and 200 lbs while the Rangers website has him at 192 lbs but I think it's fair to expect the New York native to end up around 210-215 lbs.

There is lots to like about Boo Nieves. My questions for this year is how much better will he be as a sophomore at Michigan than he was a freshman? Could he even lead the Wolverines in scoring? Assuming he has the year most expect, is he a two-and-out collegian? Is the 2014 World Junior Championship in his future?

That's why Boo Nieves is my NYR pick for "One To Watch" in 2013-14.
http://thepipelineshow.blogspot.com/...medium=twitter

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Both Lindberg and Fast will have better NHL careers than a large number of players on this list. Just watch...
I have very high hopes for both Lindberg and Kristo. I wouldn't be surprised if both of them emerged as NHL contributors as early as this year while Callahan/Hagelin are out.

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Some links re the new names - 4 Tryout Forwards at NYR Training Camp

Trainor may actually be at Buffalo camp instead

He and Burke seem to be better prospects, but who knows...

Peter Trainor
Trainor is listed on Buffalo's camp roster as well:
http://sabres.nhl.com/v2/ext/pdf/201...p%20Roster.pdf

He played for Buffalo at Travese City incuding against NYR:
http://www.pointstreak.com/prostats/...seasonid=11349

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=136776
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=104393

"NHL Draft: Rimouski's Peter Trainor is Turning Scouts Heads"
http://nhlontheice.com/articles/nhl-...couts-heads--2

"The Next Undrafted Gem? Peter Trainor"
http://thehockeywriters.com/the-next...peter-trainor/

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Taylor Burke
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=56064
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=129674

Player profile: Taylor Burke
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR_u99UurCA

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Dyson Stevenson
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=125657
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=67147

"Regina Pats search for scoring from within"
http://www.leaderpost.com/sports/hoc...698/story.html

"...accounted for 40 per cent of Regina's offence, leaving a huge gap between them and the next tier of scorers.
That gap should close with improved health for No. 1 centre Chandler Stephenson and 20-yearold forwards Dyson Stevenson and Trent Ouellette, each of whom battled significant ailments."

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Shawn O'Donnell
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=106669
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=40293

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Unfortunately, he's not. His TOI, by game: 17:00, 13:00, 11:30. In this most recent game, he played 3 minutes in the third and just 8 seconds in OT.

Buchnevich on the season: 3GP/0G/0A/0P, -3 with 11SOG.
Nearly 14 a game is a lot.

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Nearly 14 a game is a lot.
Yeah but small sample size that's skewed by his first game being 17 minutes. If he gets 8-10 minutes from here on out then saying he averaged 14 minutes over the first 3 games is pointless.

Basically, it's not worth analyzing how much icetime he's gotten yet because enough games have not been played to get an idea of where he'll end up

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Yeah but small sample size that's skewed by his first game being 17 minutes. If he gets 8-10 minutes from here on out then saying he averaged 14 minutes over the first 3 games is pointless.

Basically, it's not worth analyzing how much icetime he's gotten yet because enough games have not been played to get an idea of where he'll end up
Yea, way too early to analyze, but I don't see any negatives in terms of his ice time at this point. It may fluctuate during the season, as it's quite likely that he struggles at times this year. The KHL is a talented league, and he's a young guy who hasn't filled out his frame quite yet.

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Buchnevich and Severstal lost again today, 4-3 in a SO. Pavel had 17 shifts totaling 11:34 TOI, and had two shots. Scoreless.

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just wondering, in the 2012 draft, did any of you actually want Stefan Matteau? Most Ranger fans I know wanted him, I did too, and he's progressing pretty nicely. Did anyone feel the same or was Brady Skeji pretty accepted?

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just wondering, in the 2012 draft, did any of you actually want Stefan Matteau? Most Ranger fans I know wanted him, I did too, and he's progressing pretty nicely. Did anyone feel the same or was Brady Skeji pretty accepted?
This place freaked out (like usual) that we picked another defenseman. Oh the horror! Some people had to actually explain that draft picks aren't usually relevant for at least another 3 years unless they're picked early in the first or something. I personally like Collberg, but I also believe in BPA so I'm not upset with the pick.

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just wondering, in the 2012 draft, did any of you actually want Stefan Matteau? Most Ranger fans I know wanted him, I did too, and he's progressing pretty nicely. Did anyone feel the same or was Brady Skeji pretty accepted?
Matteau projects to me pretty much like his father. If he maxes his potential he's a decent 2nd liner but more likely a good to very good 3rd liner--about as tough with a bit of a more nastier disposition.

Skjei is somewhat in the mode of McDonagh/John Moore--a superb skater with good size. More defensive minded than offensive though more is expected from him at U. of Minnesota this year and Leslie Treff says he has a cannon of a shot. The name that's come up in the past with him is Bret Hedican. Skjei is very projectable as a 2nd pairing NHL defenseman.

Personally between the two I would stick with Skjei--maybe I'd feel differently if the Rangers had drafted Matteau. The Rangers have plenty of forwards coming along nicely--Kreider, Miller, Lindberg, Fast, Kristo, Nieves, Hrivik and not that many d-men though many of our current D are young guys still. Conversely the Devils have a number of good prospects on defense and only a couple of worthwhile forward prospects.

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just wondering, in the 2012 draft, did any of you actually want Stefan Matteau? Most Ranger fans I know wanted him, I did too, and he's progressing pretty nicely. Did anyone feel the same or was Brady Skeji pretty accepted?
Matteau had maturity issues last year which led to him being dropped from his junior team's playoff roster

as long we're talking about 2012 and Devil's forward prospects who got away from the NYR, keep an eye out for Myles Bell, who attended NYR development camp as a D-man in 2012, but once back in WHL junir hockey, similar to Brent Burns in San Jose, was shifted to wing and became a 38 goal scorer; NYR passed on him last summer, then Devils drafted him late this year at almost age 20

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