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09-09-2013, 04:22 PM
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Has a winger transitioning to Center like... ever worked out well?

Honest question. I cant think of any off the top of my head.
Messier and Horcoff off the top of my head.

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09-09-2013, 04:26 PM
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Has a winger transitioning to Center like... ever worked out well?

Honest question. I cant think of any off the top of my head.
Well we can always pull out the Mark Messier example.

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PK Subban was drafted in 2007 and only played 2 regular season games in 09/10.

Bergeron is a good example as he played a full season right after he was drafted (of course he's not an Oiler either which was my original comment. ).

Shaw was drafted in 2011 and played 37 NHL games in his draft year BUT he was also 20 years old at the time as well and played in the AHL that season also.

Roy is still just 18 and I highly, highly doubt he jumps from the 2nd round of this draft immediately onto the Oilers. I guess he could be the 2nd coming of Bergeron... but I doubt it.
Ryan O'Reilly played as a 2nd round draft pick as well.

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Horc wasn't drafted as a center?

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09-09-2013, 04:31 PM
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Horc wasn't drafted as a center?
Nevermind, i don't know what i was thinking.

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Ryan O'Reilly played as a 2nd round draft pick as well.

Ya O'Reilly is another good example... 18 year old who played a full NHL season in his draft year as a 2nd rounder or lower. So far it's Bergeron in 2003 and O'Reilly in 2009... and I assume there must be someone else out there that fits as well... but it's obviously extremely rare.... maybe 2 or 3 guys every 10 years.

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09-09-2013, 04:32 PM
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Has a winger transitioning to Center like... ever worked out well?

Honest question. I cant think of any off the top of my head.
I'm sure that there have been lots of instances of stop-gap centres over the years.

Having said that, I'm still blown away by the fact that MacT seems "happy" with his centre depth...

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09-09-2013, 04:34 PM
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Dreger tweeted this earlier.

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Taylor Hall started taking draws 6 weeks ago. Supports the puck like a centre. Don't see much downside in this Oilers experiment.
And Ray Ferraro responded with what we're all thinking.

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@DarrenDreger adjustment for Hall will be to distribute puck out of middle-he will lose outside drive which he is dynamite at

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I think your best bet of getting a 2nd rounder or later to play a year after drafting is when a guy goes undrafted and is drafted as an overager or if you get some Russian that slips.

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09-09-2013, 04:40 PM
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Ok, I have a question for you guys. So lets say Hall pans out at C. Wouldn't that leave a major hole to fill on the LW.

Perron - Nuge - Ebs
?????? - Hall - Yakupov
????/Smyth - Gordon- Hemsky
Joensuu - Miller/Lander/Acton/Arcobello - Jones

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09-09-2013, 04:45 PM
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Ok, I have a question for you guys. So lets say Hall pans out at C. Wouldn't that leave a major hole to fill on the LW.

Perron - Nuge - Ebs
?????? - Hall - Yakupov
????/Smyth - Gordon- Hemsky
Joensuu - Miller/Lander/Acton/Arcobello - Jones
If Hall is successful at center and I mean he is as good as he is at LW, then who cares? Having too many centers is what this team needs. You could always throw gagner at wing or put Hall back to wing. Options become endless when you have centers that can play wing, it's when you have to play Smyth and Petrell at center that you have issues.

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09-09-2013, 04:54 PM
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If Hall is successful at center and I mean he is as good as he is at LW, then who cares? Having too many centers is what this team needs. You could always throw gagner at wing or put Hall back to wing. Options become endless when you have centers that can play wing, it's when you have to play Smyth and Petrell at center that you have issues.
Ya no kidding... the Oilers need more players who can play C competently and if they have some that can play multiple positions well... that's just gravy.

Might as well comment here that it would have been nice to have Nichushkin as an extra LW.

Nichushkin-Hall-Yakupov
Perron-Gagner-Eberle


My statement to the rest of the league in a couple years time:

Stop that 1st line *****es.

Alas he's not here and the Oilers don't have quite the same flexibility that they could have.

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09-09-2013, 05:31 PM
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If Hall is successful at center and I mean he is as good as he is at LW, then who cares? Having too many centers is what this team needs. You could always throw gagner at wing or put Hall back to wing. Options become endless when you have centers that can play wing, it's when you have to play Smyth and Petrell at center that you have issues.
Agreed. Much easier to fill in the holes on the wing then it is down the middle.

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09-09-2013, 05:41 PM
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Ok, I have a question for you guys. So lets say Hall pans out at C. Wouldn't that leave a major hole to fill on the LW.

Perron - Nuge - Ebs
?????? - Hall - Yakupov
????/Smyth - Gordon- Hemsky
Joensuu - Miller/Lander/Acton/Arcobello - Jones
You switch Gagner to LW, and then if we lose a centerman to injury, we have a replacement

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09-09-2013, 05:44 PM
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Nich-RNH-Yak
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Paajarvi-Gordon-Hemsky

Would have looked nice.

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09-09-2013, 06:18 PM
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You switch Gagner to LW, and then if we lose a centerman to injury, we have a replacement
Thought you were happy with Gags as a 2 C? Best thing with the that suggestion is that Gags has less defensive responsible at the wing!

Worst thing, hes way to slow for a topsix winger, they tried it a couple of games 2-3 years ago, and it wasnt a pretty sight.

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09-09-2013, 06:30 PM
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Nich-RNH-Yak
Hall-Gagner-Eberle
Paajarvi-Gordon-Hemsky

Would have looked nice.
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Ya no kidding... the Oilers need more players who can play C competently and if they have some that can play multiple positions well... that's just gravy.

Might as well comment here that it would have been nice to have Nichushkin as an extra LW.

Nichushkin-Hall-Yakupov
Perron-Gagner-Eberle


My statement to the rest of the league in a couple years time:

Stop that 1st line *****es.

Alas he's not here and the Oilers don't have quite the same flexibility that they could have.
Unless Nichushkin struggles and the NHL proves too much for him as an 18/19 yr old.

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I just noticed Simon Gagne is unsigned. Unless I've missed something and he's already been invited by another team, I think it would be a wise decision to invite him to camp.

Obviously Gagne isn't the player he used to be and he does struggle with injuries, but he would improve our LW depth and is a strong defensive winger.

To start the season (providing EDM offers him a contract):

Perron - Hall - Eberle/Yakupov
Gagne - Gagner - Eberle/Yakupov

and eventually

Hall - RNH - Eberle/Yakupov
Perron - Gagner - Eberle/Yakupov
Gagne - Gordon - Hemsky

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09-09-2013, 06:46 PM
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I think Backes went from W to C as well.

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09-09-2013, 06:52 PM
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Ok, I have a question for you guys. So lets say Hall pans out at C. Wouldn't that leave a major hole to fill on the LW.

Perron - Nuge - Ebs
?????? - Hall - Yakupov
????/Smyth - Gordon- Hemsky
Joensuu - Miller/Lander/Acton/Arcobello - Jones
I am guessing one of Hemsky, Joensuu or Omark will move into top 6 until RNH returns.. Also, Yak did play majority of the season last year as LW.

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09-09-2013, 08:07 PM
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I am guessing one of Hemsky, Joensuu or Omark will move into top 6 until RNH returns.. Also, Yak did play majority of the season last year as LW.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Ebs drafted as a C? If we moved him to centre for how ever long Nuge is out, that would let Hall stay at LW where he can use his speed and drive and it would allow Yak and Hemmer to both stay at their RW position. That would be better than making one of them play LW where they aren't comfortable. I think I also read somewhere that Ebs was willing to move to C while Nuge is out too.

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Zetterberg has played C/LW bounced back and forth between those two positions for awhile too.

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Nich-RNH-Yak
Hall-Gagner-Eberle
Paajarvi-Gordon-Hemsky

Would have looked nice.
Nich-RNH-Eberle
Hall-Gagner-Yakupov
Paajarvi-Gordon-Jones

looks better to me. Dump Hemsky for who cares.

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Perron-RNH-Eberle
Prospal-Hall-Hemsky
Jones-Gagner-Yakupov
Joensuu-Gordon-Omark
Smyth/Brown



All we need is that Vaclav fellow, and this looks great, if the Hall experiment works.

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Perron-Gagner-Hemsky
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