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11-16-2006, 05:22 PM
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People Talk Before They Think!!!

hey whats up flyer fans!! finally a win to actually get excited about, but what i am really tired of is the fact that all these ppl keep posting proposals and dont think about it first. like how many times has KESLER been posted in a trade talk. Hello he cant be traded, All this time philly has been struggling Umberger has played awesome yet thats what ever know it all proposes. I dont care who is coming back in a trade and dont want him traded, plus he is from pittsburgh he doesnt want to leave the state. Then you have Ej Hradek and others saying trade forsberg and their steps to a new start. SHUT UP!! answer me this out of all the specialists and the writers who predicted Edm and Car in the finals last year. EXACTLY SHUT UP!!

My idea but what do i know
Make medium trades and try and get decent players and free up cap space quietly. I want to win this year too but there will be good players available this summer. THis year is savable as far as post season now i dont know how deep thou. edm was an eight seed anything is possible how many years have we been top 5 in the postseason where has it got us. Maybe being underdogs is what we need.

Players i feel we should try to get this year, im not sure what you would have to give to get them and maybe we dont have what it would take or want to part with it but here is my thoughts.

Vesa Toskala SJ - let nitty heal trade esche to chi or hell.
Matt Carle SJ - may not be possible ruzicka, calder and pick??
John Liles COL - i dont see it being to costly for liles grenier,meyer plus pick??
Marek Svatos COL - Their future but hear me out potulny dimitrakos plus 1 st rounder and a d man??

Not saying we will or could but i like these guys.
Now lets get ride of...haha
Mike Rathje - i ve heard ppl say SJ would take him back doubt it but maybe get luck either that send him down. last night we get burned so badly to the outside but atleast he played it smartly and didnt get a penalty.
Derian Hatcher - has moments i love him...few...other times...most of the time ....why is he still here and a captain
Denis Gauthier- i see chicago being intrested in him as a type protection, Maybe Gauthier, Esche, for borque.
Kyle Calder- idk ive rooted for him but started to get old seem like hes had a lot of easy chances no matter how much pressure. but if we move him now what will we get...


Im not an expert and maybe im no different then the people i complain about but what do you philly fans think about my ideas. Go Flyers!!

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this post was quite disgusting. i just puked all over myself. all in my mouth, on my grilled cheese sandwich, keyboard, computer screen you name it.

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Can I buy some drugs from you?

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Vesa Toskala SJ - let nitty heal trade esche to chi or hell.
Matt Carle SJ - may not be possible ruzicka, calder and pick??
John Liles COL - i dont see it being to costly for liles grenier,meyer plus pick??
Marek Svatos COL - Their future but hear me out potulny dimitrakos plus 1 st rounder and a d man??
I don't see the logic in you saying the Flyers should get any of these, cause there's no chance, and I mean NO CHANCE that SJ or Colorado would give up those players. Pigs will fly before they make it to the Flyers in a trade. Free agency is a different story, but that's later down the road.

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i love how some of the comments that you have made really dont answer anything. liles is on the market and philly has been scouting the Avs. yes svatos is impossible but i didnt say it would be easy or possible. Philly has talked to Sj about toskala so i dont see why there is NO CHANCE in your words and yes Carle is a young promising D man but not impossible. there is no need th be harsh about it change it up if you have something better.

philly 4-1 tonite. richards gagne knuble and umberger score!!!

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i love how some of the comments that you have made really dont answer anything. liles is on the market and philly has been scouting the Avs. yes svatos is impossible but i didnt say it would be easy or possible. Philly has talked to Sj about toskala so i dont see why there is NO CHANCE in your words and yes Carle is a young promising D man but not impossible. there is no need th be harsh about it change it up if you have something better.

philly 4-1 tonite. richards gagne knuble and umberger score!!!
There's no way Colorado would ever give up Liles he's too good for them to give up. Colorado's defense has been struggling the past couple years and they need to hold onto them. Svatos will not leave Colorado anytime soon, common sense. Toskala won't because even though Nabokov's good it seems that Toskala will likely be their starter, and as long as SJ's winning they're not gonna change anything. Carle is impossible because he's by far the best new defenseman in the league.

When you say "It's possible" I'm assuming you mean "We'll end up giving more than we should to get this player" and right now the only thing the Flyers team needs is time and experience. They've finally come together, let's watch and see if it'll continue to work, THEN we'll worry about doing some "Blockbuster trades."

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Alteast you explain where your coming from compared to just bashing the idea. Liles has been brought up on spectors for possible trade bait COL doesnt always make smart moves so we may not have to give much. On the other hand it could be alot. He also said even thou cheechoo isnt injuried for long they may move a goalie for more depth and help, plus they still have schaefer who is ready to push for starting. Svatos wasnt happy about what happened with his contracted this year thou either a said its possible not that it will be easy, cheap, etc. I said i like Carle not that we would have what it would take to get him. I d love for us to pull something off. IDK it was might thoughts its what i would like to see happen maybe not that it will. but i respect you for atleast explain urself instead of asking for drugs or saying your puking everywhere. Thats not really productive.

you have my respect JLHOCKEY25

KEEP IT ROLLING PHILLY!!!

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At least you didn't get the "Do you even watch hockey" comment.

What I'd like to see is something in return for Hatcher, Rathje, and Nedved. I'd like to see them go full bore in turning the identity back to Broad Street Bullies. There's nobody they could get who's dynamic enough to change the identity and it's something they could use. But they could bring in some marginal players who play tough and mean. Richards has it and in a couple of years should be the captain. Gagne and Carter should bring some high end scoring to the team, Umberger just below that. If Forsberg stays then Gagne has his set up man. Downey should make it up soon too. The core is there, they just need a couple more pieces and the mindset that that's how they'll play it. Win or lose. It won't take long if you beat on everyone, especially if they score, that they'll hate playing Philly and skate with much more caution, losing offensive focus. Let someone else win all the Lady Byng's

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Alteast you explain where your coming from compared to just bashing the idea. Liles has been brought up on spectors for possible trade bait COL doesnt always make smart moves so we may not have to give much. On the other hand it could be alot. He also said even thou cheechoo isnt injuried for long they may move a goalie for more depth and help, plus they still have schaefer who is ready to push for starting. Svatos wasnt happy about what happened with his contracted this year thou either a said its possible not that it will be easy, cheap, etc. I said i like Carle not that we would have what it would take to get him. I d love for us to pull something off. IDK it was might thoughts its what i would like to see happen maybe not that it will. but i respect you for atleast explain urself instead of asking for drugs or saying your puking everywhere. Thats not really productive.

you have my respect JLHOCKEY25

KEEP IT ROLLING PHILLY!!!
Trust me, I would LOVE to see any of those players wear a Flyers uniform, especially Carle. He's just downright disgusting. Just I think that right now the Flyers are in a rebuilding year. They also are learning to finally use their farm system to build a team rather than sign free agents/trade for veterans. This team is coming together well in my eyes, maybe we'll even do what the Rangers did and make a 2nd half run into the playoffs. And even if Svatos is angered, and becomes a free agent, I don't see him signing with Philly after the season we've had so far, but you never know down the road.

To be truthful, I think that the Flyers biggest trade bait is Umberger, Nedved, and Kapanen, though after how they've played the last 2 games I don't think they're going anywhere. So we really have no one to trade bait either, lol.

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These trade proposal things are the strangest threads on the Internet.

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