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09-11-2013, 05:18 PM
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Canucks are:
Shinkaruk at 22.
Bo Horvat at 28.
Frank Corrado at 78.
Nicklas Jensen at 83

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09-11-2013, 05:19 PM
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Baertschi>>>shinkaruk and its not that close

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09-11-2013, 05:33 PM
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Oh wow Drouin at number one. What can i say ESPN . There is a good reason why Mackinnon and Barkov were chosen before him. And there hasn't been any hockey after the draft to change the order.
Again, this is Corey Pronman's article which happens to be on ESPN. I don't like ESPN's lack of coverage of hockey on TV like everybody else, but people seem to automatically dismiss their web content as a result.

Drouin was #1 on Pronman's list heading into the draft, so to his credit he remained consistent there: http://www.hockeyprospectus.com/arti...articleid=1522

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09-11-2013, 05:40 PM
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Do they have any Montreal prospect on the list?
#48 -- Nathan Beaulieu
#89 -- Artturi Lehkonen
#90 -- Sebastian Collberg
#95 -- Jacob de la Rose

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09-11-2013, 05:42 PM
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#48 -- Nathan Beaulieu
#89 -- Artturi Lehkonen
#90 -- Sebastian Collberg
#95 -- Jacob de la Rose
Could you post Anaheim's rankings (if any) please.

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09-11-2013, 05:53 PM
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Strome top 10 ?!

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09-11-2013, 06:02 PM
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Where was Trouba?

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09-11-2013, 06:07 PM
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I can't imagine that Pronman would appreciate people spoiling the list.

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09-11-2013, 06:50 PM
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Curious Corey, why Mantha comes in so low, is it the compete level we talk about or do you see some significant problems in his puck possession as well? Seems the buzz around the Wings was he was a better passer than expected at their camps this summer. Frk, Mantha, Ouellet and Sproul (less so defensively) have been getting a lot of complements from Jeff Blashill this summer in terms of the qualities he thinks they have.

Also was not meant as a shot, just wondered if they had any demands on goalies being on the list. I also like them because you seem to value guys from all sets of drafts, it seems you are just really high on the last draft, which several people were. Like I said I always enjoy reading your lists and the time you take to answer questions around here. 0 influence is good to know, I have thought at times Sonier is steered for lack of a better term in what he talks about during his draft buildup at times.
Well at the time of the draft I said I felt there were 16 high-end prospects in this 2013 class. I think an average class has about 10-11. Those 16 are clearly grouped towards the top of my prospect board for that reason. Look at how far down you go to get to the next group of 2013 draftees.

That's not to say there's a super dramatic drop off, but once you get past the elite 30 or so prospects everyone gets insanely close in talent level. Gap between like 40 and 90 is same as between 5 and 15. In those really close cases I give preference to older players and/or those with proven AHL or pro league track records.

Mantha went right around where he was on my board. I scouted him at the Lake Placid camp and he looked good. Skilled big man and yes can playmake but still has things around the edges to work on.

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09-11-2013, 08:03 PM
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i can't believe espn still tries to charge for some content...it's laughable. espn is a flat out joke.
Wrong. ESPN has the best hockey content I've come across so far. Well worth the $3/month for high volumes of really good content.

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09-11-2013, 08:06 PM
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Kuz? haha

That kid is the most over hyped guy going. Can't wait till he comes over and disappoints so many.
Might I asked when the last time you watched him play was? What don't you like about his game?

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09-11-2013, 08:12 PM
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ESPN has the best hockey content I've come across so far.
You mean like asking if Crosby is the best hockey player of all time, and using MLB players' portraits for NHL players?

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09-11-2013, 08:15 PM
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Anyone mind posting the Stars' prospects for me?

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09-11-2013, 08:18 PM
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Shinkaruk is at 22?!?!

He didn't even go that high in the draft.

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09-11-2013, 08:20 PM
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You mean like asking if Crosby is the best hockey player of all time, and using MLB players' portraits for NHL players?
More so Custance's and Pronman's articles (which are often behind paywalls).

Anyhow, I really like how Pronman has a write-up on his top 25 prospects, though I'd've liked to see more write ups! He's well worth a follow on Twitter too.

https://twitter.com/coreypronman

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Shinkaruk is at 22?!?!

He didn't even go that high in the draft.
This is the best part

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09-11-2013, 08:57 PM
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Anyone can post the Capitals prospects in the list.

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09-11-2013, 08:58 PM
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Shinkaruk is at 22?!?!

He didn't even go that high in the draft.
Pronman has his own draft board and he sticks to it. I appreciate that sort of consistency and ownership. If you're confident in your work and process, you don't second guess it by flip flopping.that also means having the balls so say so when you think an NHL team is wrong.

No hockey has been played since the draft, so nothing happened to merit changing rankings.

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09-11-2013, 09:11 PM
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Leafs prospects?

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09-11-2013, 09:17 PM
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The exclusion of Curtis Lazar makes this list odd at absolute best. Far too heavily geared towards '13 prospects with a few downright head scratching omissions.

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09-11-2013, 10:44 PM
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They have Drouin #1. That's all that needs to be said.:
ye that's all I saw before closing it

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09-11-2013, 10:54 PM
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Shinkaruk is at 22?!?!

He didn't even go that high in the draft.
Why should that matter?

Anyone who changes their list to match the draft is ridiculous. It's like that guy who does mock drafts after the draft.

No point in making a personal list if you base it on what others think.

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09-11-2013, 10:59 PM
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Shinkaruk is at 22?!?!

He didn't even go that high in the draft.
Pretty ridiculous, I must say.

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But aren't you the one who just said, "With the amount of attention Flames fans give to Shinkaruk you'd almost think he was a prospect of their own"?

I mean, surely if you bring it up, Flames fans will respond, no?

Why don't Canadiens' fans do this with Poirier, or Ottawa fans with Monahan?
Neither of those teams talk much about either of those players, yet Flames fans do often bring up Shinkaruk (due to him growing up in the Calgary area, Flames passing on him in the draft, etc...).

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09-11-2013, 11:05 PM
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Neither of those teams talk much about either of those players, yet Flames fans do often bring up Shinkaruk (due to him growing up in the Calgary area, Flames passing on him in the draft, etc...).
Don't forget going to a rival. Had he gone to Washington instead of Vancouver I highly doubt they'd bring him up as often as they do.

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