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pacioretty crashing into the goalie twice even somersaulting fucale was funny to watch

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Diaz looked absolutely brilliant with the puck on his stick. Shifty and stick handling beautifully. Looked like a high end #1 at times. Seemed to resemble the Diaz we saw in the Swiss highlight video just before he came over.

I think he's going to have a helluva year.

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Diaz looked absolutely brilliant with the puck on his stick. Shifty and stick handling beautifully. Looked like a high end #1 at times. Seemed to resemble the Diaz we saw in the Swiss highlight video just before he came over.

I think he's going to have a helluva year.
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Nygren>Tinordi in this scrimmage
Disagree. Tinordi was just the best player on the ice after Reway....

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Galchenyuk-Eller-Gallagher was really flying out there on every shift it seemed like they had a chance to score.

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Disagree. Tinordi was just the best player on the ice after Reway....
I respect your opinion, but for me Hudon was the 2nd best player after Reway, each time one of these two got the puck, something happened

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I respect your opinion, but for me Hudon was the 2nd best player after Reway, each time one of these two got the puck, something happened
I think Pateryn was the best DMan yesterday.

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Looks like Timmins is doing a good job.

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09-15-2013, 02:18 PM
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I studied the game, and in particular Reway versus McCarron, which was a matchup most of the night. Been over their shifts a few times now. Other than the first shift where Reway scored that beauty...to be honest I don't think Reway was overly dominant.

Don't get me wrong - That was a great goal, and he played okay offensively in spurts, making a couple of other nice dangles including that behind the back pass that led to a good chance..but you'd swear by the love he's getting on here that he was a force.

I thought McCarron outplayed him after the first shift.. Mac had 2 or three really good scoring chances, including being left alone in front of the net, and set up what should have been another goal. He was definitely stronger than Reway in his own end and neutral zone.... by a fair margin. McCarron is not far away from the NHL in a defensive role, in fact he's arguably NHL calibre in that department already IMO.

Reway has a long way to go defensively as a center...players powered through him pretty easily, and he coasted in his own end and stood in the slot a few times. He also made some ill advised plays in his own end, a couple in particular where as soon as he got pressured he coughed it up to the defenceman and was very lucky not to get scored on. He wasn't flagrantly poor defensively, but there's work to do. Not sure he will be able to play center at the NHL level - time will tell.

Mac broke up several plays with good wheels and his enormous reach. He more than kept up to the pace...he's a powerful skater already. On Reway's goal, Mac actually made the best play defensively...really hustled getting back and cutting off the passing lane for Reway to Collberg. Tinordi is the one who misread the play when Mac got back in the passing lane...backed up too far and allowed Reway to go right in alone - Tinordi should have pressured Reway..didn't need two players playing the pass.

Tinordi blew a tire in his own end with the puck on another shift that led to a great scoring chance, but apart from that, he was solid. He's improved his passing skills the past three seasons..thank goodness.

Leblanc looks a lot better than last year...looks like he's added some strength..his skating is improved. I think he cracks the lineup this fall.

Fournier plays a pro style game - skating is the issue, but there are definitely things to like - he should make Hamilton, and perhaps even surprise.

On the blueline, I thought Drewiskie had a pretty solid game, same with Pateryn, and Gorges. Dietz also played pretty well for the most part except for a couple of hiccups. He should get a decent role in Hamilton this year.

Fucale, for an 18-year-old goalie, impressed me with his poise. The kid is going to be a pro goalie. Gorges looked more comfortable then he did last season..maybe he needed a year to get over his surgery properly - I expect a bounce back season from him.

Thomas didn't look out of place playing with Plekanec - I could see him getting some playing time with the Habs this season.

BTW - heard that Reway's been "outstanding" all camp. I was told after the draft that he really cleaned up his act since coming to Hull, and worked hard in the offseason for the first time in his life.

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BTW - heard that Reway's been "outstanding" all camp. I was told after the draft that he really cleaned up his act since coming to Hull, and worked hard in the offseason for the first time in his life.
The good news is that he even admitted it himself. He wasn't that serious and then he met Benoit Groulx. I tell you....if Groulx would change his mind, he'd be a great coaching asset whether it's Hamilton or Habs.

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The good news is that he even admitted it himself. He wasn't that serious and then he met Benoit Groulx. I tell you....if Groulx would change his mind, he'd be a great coaching asset whether it's Hamilton or Habs.
I was told by an NHL scout last fall that he was a "chain smoking orphan" with a poor attitude and no work ethic. Add in that he's 5-foot-nothing...I wasn't expecting much from him in Hull. While he's very much still a work in progress - he's come a long way in a year's time.

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I was told by an NHL scout last fall that he was a "chain smoking orphan" with a poor attitude and no work ethic. Add in that he's 5-foot-nothing...I wasn't expecting much from him in Hull. While he's very much still a work in progress - he's come a long way in a year's time.
We call it Gatineau round these parts


Heard the same thing about him being a chain smoking teenager with a bad attitude.

I've also wondered if the habs will eventually try to bring Groulx into the fold.

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Looks like Timmins is doing a good job.
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I was told by an NHL scout last fall that he was a "chain smoking orphan" with a poor attitude and no work ethic. Add in that he's 5-foot-nothing...I wasn't expecting much from him in Hull. While he's very much still a work in progress - he's come a long way in a year's time.
A lot of teens take up smoking. If he realized he has a chance to make a career out of hockey and is mature enough to seize the opportunity, he will continue to progress.

**fingers crossed**

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Just watched the game, Only crap Reway have a shot to make the NHL in a couple of years. Great pick.

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I studied the game, and in particular Reway versus McCarron, which was a matchup most of the night. Been over their shifts a few times now. Other than the first shift where Reway scored that beauty...to be honest I don't think Reway was overly dominant.

Don't get me wrong - That was a great goal, and he played okay offensively in spurts, making a couple of other nice dangles including that behind the back pass that led to a good chance..but you'd swear by the love he's getting on here that he was a force.

I thought McCarron outplayed him after the first shift.. Mac had 2 or three really good scoring chances, including being left alone in front of the net, and set up what should have been another goal. He was definitely stronger than Reway in his own end and neutral zone.... by a fair margin. McCarron is not far away from the NHL in a defensive role, in fact he's arguably NHL calibre in that department already IMO.

Reway has a long way to go defensively as a center...players powered through him pretty easily, and he coasted in his own end and stood in the slot a few times. He also made some ill advised plays in his own end, a couple in particular where as soon as he got pressured he coughed it up to the defenceman and was very lucky not to get scored on. He wasn't flagrantly poor defensively, but there's work to do. Not sure he will be able to play center at the NHL level - time will tell.

Mac broke up several plays with good wheels and his enormous reach. He more than kept up to the pace...he's a powerful skater already. On Reway's goal, Mac actually made the best play defensively...really hustled getting back and cutting off the passing lane for Reway to Collberg. Tinordi is the one who misread the play when Mac got back in the passing lane...backed up too far and allowed Reway to go right in alone - Tinordi should have pressured Reway..didn't need two players playing the pass.

Tinordi blew a tire in his own end with the puck on another shift that led to a great scoring chance, but apart from that, he was solid. He's improved his passing skills the past three seasons..thank goodness.

Leblanc looks a lot better than last year...looks like he's added some strength..his skating is improved. I think he cracks the lineup this fall.

Fournier plays a pro style game - skating is the issue, but there are definitely things to like - he should make Hamilton, and perhaps even surprise.

On the blueline, I thought Drewiskie had a pretty solid game, same with Pateryn, and Gorges. Dietz also played pretty well for the most part except for a couple of hiccups. He should get a decent role in Hamilton this year.

Fucale, for an 18-year-old goalie, impressed me with his poise. The kid is going to be a pro goalie. Gorges looked more comfortable then he did last season..maybe he needed a year to get over his surgery properly - I expect a bounce back season from him.

Thomas didn't look out of place playing with Plekanec - I could see him getting some playing time with the Habs this season.

BTW - heard that Reway's been "outstanding" all camp. I was told after the draft that he really cleaned up his act since coming to Hull, and worked hard in the offseason for the first time in his life.
Thanks Grant - always appreciate the objectiveness of your posts.

Habs should carry 14 forwards at the break of camp - and they have 13 signed one way contracts. Gionta and maybe Parros will not start the year - leaving possible 3 spots open.

I would expect Tarnasky to take Parros spot until he is healthy. That leave Leblanc, Thomas, Bournival and Holland fighting for the two spots. I think to this point of the camp, Leblanc and Thomas have a leg up.

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Thanks Grant - always appreciate the objectiveness of your posts.

Habs should carry 14 forwards at the break of camp - and they have 13 signed one way contracts. Gionta and maybe Parros will not start the year - leaving possible 3 spots open.

I would expect Tarnasky to take Parros spot until he is healthy. That leave Leblanc, Thomas, Bournival and Holland fighting for the two spots. I think to this point of the camp, Leblanc and Thomas have a leg up.
Jesus, if Tarnasky plays in the NHL... Were in for a looooong ride.

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Jesus, if Tarnasky plays in the NHL... Were in for a looooong ride.
Talk about misreading and over-reacting...Who can temporarily take over Parros's role if he's injured? And this is very short term

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Talk about misreading and over-reacting...Who can temporarily take over Parros's role if he's injured? And this is very short term
Maybe we'll just have to do without.


Rough, I know.

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Maybe we'll just have to do without.


Rough, I know.
I can live with that but what's the use of keeping a young player in the stands in Montreal and not playing in Hamilton. Seems to me that Tarnasky for a week or so if Parros is not ready is much more logical.

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I studied the game, and in particular Reway versus McCarron, which was a matchup most of the night. Been over their shifts a few times now. Other than the first shift where Reway scored that beauty...to be honest I don't think Reway was overly dominant.

Don't get me wrong - That was a great goal, and he played okay offensively in spurts, making a couple of other nice dangles including that behind the back pass that led to a good chance..but you'd swear by the love he's getting on here that he was a force.

I thought McCarron outplayed him after the first shift.. Mac had 2 or three really good scoring chances, including being left alone in front of the net, and set up what should have been another goal. He was definitely stronger than Reway in his own end and neutral zone.... by a fair margin. McCarron is not far away from the NHL in a defensive role, in fact he's arguably NHL calibre in that department already IMO.

Reway has a long way to go defensively as a center...players powered through him pretty easily, and he coasted in his own end and stood in the slot a few times. He also made some ill advised plays in his own end, a couple in particular where as soon as he got pressured he coughed it up to the defenceman and was very lucky not to get scored on. He wasn't flagrantly poor defensively, but there's work to do. Not sure he will be able to play center at the NHL level - time will tell.

Mac broke up several plays with good wheels and his enormous reach. He more than kept up to the pace...he's a powerful skater already. On Reway's goal, Mac actually made the best play defensively...really hustled getting back and cutting off the passing lane for Reway to Collberg. Tinordi is the one who misread the play when Mac got back in the passing lane...backed up too far and allowed Reway to go right in alone - Tinordi should have pressured Reway..didn't need two players playing the pass.

Tinordi blew a tire in his own end with the puck on another shift that led to a great scoring chance, but apart from that, he was solid. He's improved his passing skills the past three seasons..thank goodness.

Leblanc looks a lot better than last year...looks like he's added some strength..his skating is improved. I think he cracks the lineup this fall.

Fournier plays a pro style game - skating is the issue, but there are definitely things to like - he should make Hamilton, and perhaps even surprise.

On the blueline, I thought Drewiskie had a pretty solid game, same with Pateryn, and Gorges. Dietz also played pretty well for the most part except for a couple of hiccups. He should get a decent role in Hamilton this year.

Fucale, for an 18-year-old goalie, impressed me with his poise. The kid is going to be a pro goalie. Gorges looked more comfortable then he did last season..maybe he needed a year to get over his surgery properly - I expect a bounce back season from him.

Thomas didn't look out of place playing with Plekanec - I could see him getting some playing time with the Habs this season.

BTW - heard that Reway's been "outstanding" all camp. I was told after the draft that he really cleaned up his act since coming to Hull, and worked hard in the offseason for the first time in his life.
I agree with really just about all this. Except I'm bad at noticing defensive play especially with forwards.

I thought Reway would be more dominant considering the reports but he still looks really good out there. His skating is really something. He can make sharper turns than PK it seemed. Very impressed for an 18 year old.

Mac looked really solid out there. Love this pick more and more. It's amazing how well he keeps up with the play. He definitely looks like he'll be more skilled than Lucic.

Drewiske looked really poised with the puck. I can't help but think he'll be better this year if he gets the chance. Might've just been an adjustment period with him.

LL was fantastic out there. As much as I liked Thomas, I can't help but think LL's skillset would serve our top 9 better.

Thomas is mighty speedy and made a beautiful pass on Pleks' goal. Very interested to see what he can do.

Once I realized Dietz was 84 I liked what I saw.

Murray seems like he could have a Gill like steadying presence on the blue line. Add to that Murray's unreal toughness and this could turn into an absolutely brilliant signing.

I liked what I saw from Briere. He seems pretty pugnacious out there and definitely plays bigger than Ryder. Always right in the crease. Seems to just make smart offensive plays even in small ways. Looks to have good chemistry with DD and Patches already. That line if used properly could really exploit other teams.

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