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09-16-2013, 12:05 PM
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Bournival surprised me. I thought his first goal was a fluke...then he scored again and started to get my attention and it seemed like he played with even more intensity after that..like he really wanted that 3rd one...good hands.
Reminds me of Yannic Perreault when he was in the AHL. Despite how everyone wants to pick on his game, he's a goal scorer.

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Ok. My evaluation of the game:


- Greg Pateryn: Said he'd be more physical, and he lives up to his promise thus far. Noticeably more mobile, and winning all of his 1-on-1 battles along the boards. The 3 assists are just pure bonus. I loved his game.

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Absolutely. And it is what I observed as probably the biggest difference in his game compared to last year. The mobility was something he needed to improve to become a full-time nhler and he did. And I also like his poise with the puck - always makes the right play. I really want to see him and Tinordi play some games - really tired of watching that small, soft d over the last few years.

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09-16-2013, 12:28 PM
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Reminds me of Yannic Perreault when he was in the AHL. Despite how everyone wants to pick on his game, he's a goal scorer.
Sorry, for all the good things I see of Bournival I still can't shake the feeling that he reminds me of Stephan Lebeau or Benoit Brunet (the player) more than Yannic Perreault.

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Sorry, for all the good things I see of Bournival I still can't shake the feeling that he reminds me of Stephan Lebeau or Benoit Brunet (the player) more than Yannic Perreault.
Brunet avec Lebeau derrière?

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Sorry, for all the good things I see of Bournival I still can't shake the feeling that he reminds me of Stephan Lebeau or Benoit Brunet (the player) more than Yannic Perreault.
I also don't think he resembles Yannic Perreault much. But if he can become our next Benoit Brunet less the injuries, we have a player.

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09-16-2013, 12:52 PM
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Thanks. I thought I was the only one to notice it, but it's great to validate my opinion and to find out I'm not alone to have thought that.
Nope!

In one of those scrums near our net, one of our guys buried a sabre with conviction. I had to rewind a few times to figure out who it was. I can't imagine what my reaction was when I saw it was holland

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I also don't think he resembles Yannic Perreault much. But if he can become our next Benoit Brunet less the injuries, we have a player.
Hehe. I never understood what everybody saw of benoit brunet but I guess I can keep an open mind. I guess I'm of the "70's flyers" school of thought where the bottom six is concerned (unless its a "rookie future top six" third line or a faceoff specialist, that is acceptable).

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When I see Drewiske, Tokarski, Holland, Blunden, Bournival (we traded for him in 2010??) I really think we should replace some of our professional scouting team (i guess its them that made the call?). How come we move assets to get so much blandness in return?

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09-16-2013, 01:34 PM
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When I see Drewiske, Tokarski, Holland, Blunden, Bournival (we traded for him in 2010??) I really think we should replace some of our professional scouting team (i guess its them that made the call?). How come we move assets to get so much blandness in return?
Maybe because the assets we moved to acquire those players didn't have much value at all?

It's not like Russel was blue-chip prospect. The same for Desjardins. The problem in Montreal is that we over-value any asset the team has an expect the world for them. But, Russell for Blunden, Desjardins for Tokarski is about as standard of a trade as you can get. No one is going to give you gold for garbage.

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When I see Drewiske, Tokarski, Holland, Blunden, Bournival (we traded for him in 2010??) I really think we should replace some of our professional scouting team (i guess its them that made the call?). How come we move assets to get so much blandness in return?
We really didn't give up much in the way of assets to get those players. Drewiske was acquired for a 4th. Tokarski traded for Desjardins, another minor league goalie who can do some NHL spot duty. They pretty much cancel each other out. Blunden for Ryan Russell, who's currently playing in Sweden. Holland was a minor piece in the Cammalleri deal, the bigger assets there were Bourque and the 2nd rounder, who became Fucale. Bournival we got for O'Byrne, who is also currently out of the league.

You can definitely complain about the Habs' poor asset management in recent years, but not from what we gave up to get those guys. Fact is, not every player in the organization can be a stud. You need depth players and plugs and energy guys too.

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When I see Drewiske, Tokarski, Holland, Blunden, Bournival (we traded for him in 2010??) I really think we should replace some of our professional scouting team (i guess its them that made the call?). How come we move assets to get so much blandness in return?
5th round probably < Drewiske (Most 5th don't make the NHL)
Desjardins < Tokarski
Holland was part of a deal but I guess it's also 5th round < Holland
Ryan Russell < Mike Blunden
O'Byrne probably < Bournival

I don't see the problem here....

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Maybe because the assets we moved to acquire those players didn't have much value at all?

It's not like Russel was blue-chip prospect. The same for Desjardins. The problem in Montreal is that we over-value any asset the team has an expect the world for them. But, Russell for Blunden, Desjardins for Tokarski is about as standard of a trade as you can get. No one is going to give you gold for garbage.
Why not take a risk or trade for a pick instead of choosing the warm body option? You give a 5th round pick to Timmins in 2009 or 2010 and you get a Dumont or Gallagher. Or even Erick Nystrom with a 6th in 2012... I don't mind...

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Why not take a risk or trade for a pick instead of choosing the warm body option? You give a 5th round pick to Timmins in 2009 or 2010 and you get a Dumont or Gallagher. Or even Erick Nystrom with a 6th in 2012... I don't mind...
You could also get Avstin, Archambault, Ryan Russell with those picks. Sure depth is better than potential depth.

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Why not take a risk or trade for a pick instead of choosing the warm body option? You give a 5th round pick to Timmins in 2009 or 2010 and you get a Dumont or Gallagher. Or even Erick Nystrom with a 6th in 2012... I don't mind...

What if the other team didn't want to give up a pick? Besides, those 5th round picks could be years away from making an impact. Sometimes you need depth now.

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You could also get Avstin, Archambault, Ryan Russell with those picks. Sure depth is better than potential depth.
I liked the Avstin pick!

Ok. Ok. I relent. I guess you guys have a valid point.

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I liked the Avstin pick!

Ok. Ok. I relent. I guess you guys have a valid point.
I also liked it, shows that everybody can be wrong.

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I also liked it, shows that everybody can be wrong.
ring a bell?

Back in the day I thought Subban,Weber,Carle would become the next big 3. At least one of them did

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ring a bell?

Back in the day I thought Subban,Weber,Carle would become the next big 3. At least one of them did
Weber was really disappointing to be honest, he really played great hockey back in Kitchener and his 1st season in Hamilton. At times I even found he was a little ahead of PK

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Ok. My evaluation of the game:

- Greg Pateryn: Said he'd be more physical, and he lives up to his promise thus far. Noticeably more mobile, and winning all of his 1-on-1 battles along the boards. The 3 assists are just pure bonus. I loved his game.

- Rafael Diaz: Seriously. WTF Calisse?! Already not physical, he also was very soft WITH the puck. With two seasons in the NHL under his belt, I was looking at him and comparing his game to Nygren, since he was the most similar D in style on the lineup yesterday. Some might say he's a veteran taking it easy, but the way he ended last season, I was hoping for something more than this. To me, Nygren was just as good and looked like the vet on the PP. Not a fan, never will be.

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I got Pateryn and Diaz mixed up at one point when Pateryn had the puck. It looks lk he improved greatly in his skating and puck handling. Diaz hasn't look the same since he returned from his concussion. His decision making has been questionable and play along the boards

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Weber was really disappointing to be honest, he really played great hockey back in Kitchener and his 1st season in Hamilton. At times I even found he was a little ahead of PK
Same I put him ahead of PK too back in 09. I remember the hype around him in training camp and when he scored his first NHL career goal against the Bruins in the playoffs.



The start of what could have been

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He plays tonight against the Bruins

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25% of our roster is crap. We should quadruple tank.
bang on my friend 1/4 of this roster is useless

we only have about 8 players that would play on a contending team

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I got Pateryn and Diaz mixed up at one point when Pateryn had the puck. It looks lk he improved greatly in his skating and puck handling. Diaz hasn't look the same since he returned from his concussion. His decision making has been questionable and play along the boards
Diaz is a waste of space

fools if they bring him back

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