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09-13-2013, 06:50 AM
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Well he was traded for Schneider.
And Schneider is not as valuable as Carey Price.

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09-13-2013, 07:14 AM
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I think Price would block this move.

Vancouver has made their choice in net. I do not believe there is serious intent to move Luongo. Aquilini has essentially written this in stone.

Canucks cannot trade any young prospects because they cannot attract a free agent or trade for anybody.

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09-13-2013, 11:29 AM
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True that we have arguably the softest top 6 in the league just imagine how soft it would be with the Sedins in our lineup.They would be the softest two players on our team.Nothing hilarious about having arguably the softest two forwards in the league.
You keep Lu because we have no want or need for him as long as we have Price.
Yet they'd still be by far your top 2 forwards. Henrik Sedin hasn't missed a game in over 8 years, hard from 'soft' We don't want nor need Price because we have a better goalie in Luongo.

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09-13-2013, 12:45 PM
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Luong0.... with his contract has a negative value.... Montreal will never go after Luong0

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09-13-2013, 01:12 PM
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I've always wished the habs could bail out Vancouver and waste all the money that could go to younger forwards could be spent on a goalie not far from retirement

Thanks OP!

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09-16-2013, 01:02 PM
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As a Hab fan, I would do this in a heartbeat...

But I'm no NHL GM, and those guys have to figure about the salary cap...

If Luongo's contrat would have been so great, he would be elsewhere actually...

But he is untradable because of it...

Plus Price is 26, Luongo is 34...

Even if I'm not his biggest fan (far from it), Price still have some untaped potential... and has a good value because of it...

Luongo ?? Not really...

So it is pretty certain that in a Luongo for Price trade, Vancouver would have to sweeten the pot...

But Horvat ???

Maybe if the Habs add something else...


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09-16-2013, 01:07 PM
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As a Hab fan, I would do this in a heartbeat...

But I'm no NHL GM, and those guys have to figure about the salary cap...

If Luongo's contrat would have been so great, he would be elsewhere actually...

But he is untradable because of it...

Plus Price is 26, Luongo is 34...

Even if I'm not his biggest fan (far from it), Price still have some untaped potential... and has good value because of it...

Luongo ?? Not really...

So it is pretty certain that in a Luongo for Price trade, Vancouver would have to sweeten the pot...

But Horvat ???

Maybe if the Habs add something else...

I agree

Done from habs POV

Luongo and Price are very close right now.

If Luongo could give us another 3-4 years of solid goaltending then Fucale could take his place.

We would also add a stud in Horvat.

Galchenyuk - Horvat and Eller as our top 3 centers ...

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09-16-2013, 01:10 PM
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So Luongo + Schneider for Price?

No thanks

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09-16-2013, 02:01 PM
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Wow guys. Way to get trolled by a leafs fan.

Some of the stupidest comments I've read on this board in a long time.

Luongo has one of the best contracts in the league and is an elite goalie? That's why they couldn't trade him in TWO YEARS, and he said he looked at having his contract voided?

They didn't just stop new teams from being able to structure contracts like this, they penalized the existing ones with a cap recapture penalty if the player retires before the end. So enjoy paying him over 5 mill at 43... yep...great contract.



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I'm not arguing Luong having more value because he doesn't. But in terms of playing ability Price is a downgrade on Luongo.
This is just great, and shows how stupid this thread is. So you guys are comparing the goalies, and saying who's better (even though luongo was a backup last year), but you don't want to argue about luongo having more value... in a trade forum... in a trade proposal, where the only relevant information is value???

Trades are made on value. Mid 30s, top tier players do not have the same value as top tier 20somethings.

Case closed.

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09-16-2013, 03:46 PM
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I don't get how this thread has stayed open so long. We're basically giving up the guy we picked at #9 overall this year in the draft for Carey Price, who is worse than Luongo right now.

Am I missing something?

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09-16-2013, 04:02 PM
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I don't get how this thread has stayed open so long. We're basically giving up the guy we picked at #9 overall this year in the draft for Carey Price, who is worse than Luongo right now.

Am I missing something?
Yes you are. Luongo is almost certainly going to be bought out or traded by the end of the year. If you want to believe something else, then that is your right to live in an alternate universe.

Teams generally don't treat their star players like Vancouver did to Luongo because it doesn't end well, it just ends.

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09-16-2013, 04:06 PM
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So you wouldn't trade a 3rd liner for Price.That cements your rep right there
Why would we trade anything for Price when we already have a goalie that is way better than Price?

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09-16-2013, 04:13 PM
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True that we have arguably the softest top 6 in the league just imagine how soft it would be with the Sedins in our lineup.They would be the softest two players on our team.Nothing hilarious about having arguably the softest two forwards in the league.
You keep Lu because we have no want or need for him as long as we have Price.
I don't think the Sedins would be allowed to be on the Habs because they wouldn't fit the height restriction.

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09-16-2013, 04:17 PM
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And Schneider is not as valuable as Carey Price.
He's a better goaltender though

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09-17-2013, 05:04 AM
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I don't think the Sedins would be allowed to be on the Habs because they wouldn't fit the height restriction.
Ya because having two 6 ft plus softest players in the league would help us in the playoffs.No wonder you guys can't win crap in the playoffs.
We don't need nor want your better untradeable Luongo.Your stuck with him.

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09-17-2013, 05:07 AM
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Absolutely terrible for the Canucks.
Bettman doesn't like teams who tried to cap circumvent by signing players like Longo to those type of contracts. It's supposed to hurt.

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09-17-2013, 07:32 AM
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He's a better goaltender though
Haha nope, he hasn't even played 40 games in a season, plus he's a year older than Price.

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Haha nope, he hasn't even played 40 games in a season, plus he's a year older than Price.
Schneider is easily better than Price.

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Dare I say this qualifies as the most successful troll post of all time...?

Bravo OP!

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Schneider is easily better than Price.
Suuuuuuuuure...

He hasn't even played 40 games in a season yet, how can you possibly compare him to any goaltender that's played 60-70+ games a year? He's got talent, but no one here knows if he can handle the workload of an actual #1 NHL keeper.

As far as Luongo goes, the Canucks were unable to trade his dumbass contract for two years straight and were forced to trade Schneider because of it. Now some of you fans act as if it has acual value. Here's the deal, Luongo's contract has NEGATIVE value and it always will because of it's length and the headache it will cause when he retires.

In terms of ability, right now I think the two are on par. So as far as the original deal is concerned I think the Habs would have to add a 2nd to 3rd round pick or B level prospect, but nothing more. In fact, I'm not even sure if the deal is fair for the Habs without adding.

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Ya because having two 6 ft plus softest players in the league would help us in the playoffs.No wonder you guys can't win crap in the playoffs.
We don't need nor want your better untradeable Luongo.Your stuck with him.
2 years ago your awesome team came 3rd last in the league. This year they barely made the playoffs because of Price ******** the bed down the stretch. If it was an 82 game season, they would've probably missed the playoffs.
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Haha nope, he hasn't even played 40 games in a season, plus he's a year older than Price.
He has a full season under his belt albeit in a shortened season. So that has to count for something. He also had insane stats this year and has had them for 3 years now (yes I know in a backup roll).

You will see for yourself just how good he is this year playing for one of the best defensive teams in the league.
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Suuuuuuuuure...

He hasn't even played 40 games in a season yet, how can you possibly compare him to any goaltender that's played 60-70+ games a year? He's got talent, but no one here knows if he can handle the workload of an actual #1 NHL keeper.

As far as Luongo goes, the Canucks were unable to trade his dumbass contract for two years straight and were forced to trade Schneider because of it. Now some of you fans act as if it has acual value. Here's the deal, Luongo's contract has NEGATIVE value and it always will because of it's length and the headache it will cause when he retires.

In terms of ability, right now I think the two are on par. So as far as the original deal is concerned I think the Habs would have to add a 2nd to 3rd round pick or B level prospect, but nothing more. In fact, I'm not even sure if the deal is fair for the Habs without adding.
Luongo and Price are not the same ability wise, Luongo is better. Price however has more trade value because of his age and because of Luongo's contract.

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