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Who should play with Couturier and Read?

View Poll Results: Who should play with Couturier and Read?
Gagne 13 11.40%
Laughton 28 24.56%
McGinn 30 26.32%
Noebels 0 0%
Raffl 28 24.56%
Straka 2 1.75%
Talbot 6 5.26%
Other 7 6.14%
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09-13-2013, 08:13 PM
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trade read and talbot?
No....

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09-13-2013, 08:15 PM
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i think rosehill play 55 games this years
why they trade for him 1 day after the voracek fight
If Rosehill plays 55 games we're ****ed. I would set the bar at 25 games for him.

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09-13-2013, 08:38 PM
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Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Schenn-Lecavalier-Simmonds
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laughton-couturier-mcginn
trade read and talbot?
For what exactly? Our blue line is full and now we'd have two spots on the offense that need to be filled.

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09-15-2013, 11:05 PM
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after what i saw tonight, i want Cousins on that 3rd line. the kid has skills.

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09-16-2013, 06:46 AM
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after what i saw tonight, i want Cousins on that 3rd line. the kid has skills.
Would be smart to play him in the AHL. Still needs to work on his defensive play and skating, as one can see from the scrimmage.

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09-16-2013, 01:58 PM
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Laughton, or a resigned Gagne.

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09-16-2013, 02:46 PM
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Would be smart to play him in the AHL. Still needs to work on his defensive play and skating, as one can see from the scrimmage.
his skating does need work, but pairing him on a line with a good defensive player in Couturier and a good skater in Read, might be an interesting mix. i would at least like to see him get a few games on that line.

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09-16-2013, 03:03 PM
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I'm really hoping to see Voracek-Couturier-Read reunited at some point.

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09-16-2013, 05:12 PM
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I'm really hoping to see Voracek-Couturier-Read reunited at some point.
That would pretty much mean you're putting Voracek on a 3rd line. I don't like that regardless of the bumped up minutes they'd get if they rolled 3 lines evenly. Only way I could see that would be on a PP, but doubt Couts would be centering either of the PP units with G and V ahead of him.

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his skating does need work, but pairing him on a line with a good defensive player in Couturier and a good skater in Read, might be an interesting mix. i would at least like to see him get a few games on that line.
If the plan is still for Couturier to go up against the top lines on the opposing team's than I want Cousins no where near his line because he's terrible defensively.

I think we'll see a Talbot/Couturier/Read line to start the the season, it should be an elite defensive 3rd line with those three. If Couturier's offensive game comes around this year than it should a pretty good balanced line even with Talbot on it.

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09-16-2013, 11:18 PM
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Just throwing it out there..

Read - Giroux - Voracek
Schenn - Lecavalier - Simmonds
Hartnell - Couturier - McGinn
Rinaldo - Hall - Talbot

I think Read would gel on the first line, but the third line takes a hit. Maybe add Akeson in there somewhere?

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Wasn't able to see the game, but saw many of you guys speaking well of Raffl's play. ANy new thoughts on a third line of Raffl-Couturier-Read?

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Wasn't able to see the game, but saw many of you guys speaking well of Raffl's play. ANy new thoughts on a third line of Raffl-Couturier-Read?
Raffl doesnt seem like a guy suited for a bottom 6 role.

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Raffl doesnt seem like a guy suited for a bottom 6 role.
I don't think we're going to have a conventional 3rd line this year. There could be some decent offense coming out of it and I'm wondering if Raffl has enough defensive ability to maintain himself on that line while providing an offensive touch along with Couts and Read.

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After last night I think Raffl has the inside track.

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Anybody think it's possible that they liked what they saw with Raffl so much they might want to keep him with Vinny and Simmonds? If they did that then we would be looking at one of Hartnell or Schenn with Couturier and Read while the other is forced to play with Giroux and Voracek. I feel like that may be something they try out of the gate to see if it works at all.

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Maybe. Hopefully Hartnell wouldn't pout on the third line and would create a lot of space for Couturier and Read.

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As usual, I agree with Bill. Adam Hall just isn't a player that screams "guaranteed a job" to me. I like his abilities in the circle and he certainly played well for us last year.... just as Leighton did when he came over on waivers. Let that last part sink in for a second.
Woah. There's a big difference between a guy who will play 8-10 minutes of 4th line/pk shifts versus a guy who's a focal point of every game for 60 minutes.

Hall is exactly the guy the Flyers need on the 4th line and is the type of player they have been missing for years (Blair Betts was the closest to a quality 4th line centre, but his shoulders rendered him incapable of being a strong faceoff guy). If Laughton beats him out in camp, that's great, but I don't expect Laughton to be able to put in the same minutes as Hall can now (credible pk minutes and late game situations), nor do I think Laughton will be able to come into the league and win the majority of his faceoffs.

If Laughton makes the team, I'd actually prefer it be on the third line as a winger.

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If Laughton makes the team, I'd actually prefer it be on the third line as a winger.
I would generally agree, but my point was more than Adam Hall was waived by the TB Lightning last year before playing exceptionally well (over his head?) for us. To assume that he is going to come in and offer precisely the same quality of play as he did last year is probably a mistake.

Again, he could do it, but again, he's not the stone cold lock for a roster spot that he is often projected as. If multiple of Laughton, Raffl, McGinn, Akeson, etc come in and significantly outplay Adam Hall in camp and the preseason all bets are off imo.

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None of them can win faceoffs like Hall can. That's his best feature.

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I was a fan of having Gagné there, but since that ship seems to have sunk, I'd be hoping for either McGinn or Akeson. Each brings something different and I could see a really dynamic two-way third line with Akeson – Couturier – Read if Akeson keeps up his stellar pre-season play and work ethic.

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I was a fan of having Gagné there, but since that ship seems to have sunk, I'd be hoping for either McGinn or Akeson. Each brings something different and I could see a really dynamic two-way third line with Akeson – Couturier – Read if Akeson keeps up his stellar pre-season play and work ethic.
I really believe it's Akeson's to lose. I know last night was pre-season, but he's really putting together a very good overall game. Ever since that demotion to Trenton last year, he came back to the Phantoms a completely different player. He could still score, but his commitment to defense has been noticeable.

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Akeson's a top 6 guy, most likely in the AHL. He's not cut out for the third line.

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Akeson's a top 6 guy, most likely in the AHL. He's not cut out for the third line.
See, I don't understand this line of thinking. "He's not cut out for the third line." What does that mean? In this day and age, you're rolling out four lines. The days of the traditional 2 offensive lines, one checking and one energy line are pretty much out the window. You need every line to contribute. Akeson can help add offense to the third line. Couturier and Read are good enough defensively to help cover for Akeson and maybe, just maybe, their defensive prowess rubs a bit on Akeson. It's not like he's terrible defensively.

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