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09-17-2013, 08:17 AM
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Some of you guys are so naive. 3 X 1.8M is a bad contract for a 3rd/4th liner. Most of Habdom doesn't like the contract, other teams won't like it either.

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09-17-2013, 08:23 AM
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I'd rather trade him for a pick and sign Jerred Smithson to centre our fourth line. We need a faceoff specialist and he'd help a lot on our penalty kill.

White is also better on the wing with less responsibilities.

Prust - Smithson - White/Parros

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09-17-2013, 09:10 AM
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As usual not anymore... just like gionta... we always wait for players to become valueless before we try to trade them.... on that sense it isnt much different than previous regimes.

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09-17-2013, 10:01 AM
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I doubt he's very tradeable right now when teams have already filled out their camp rosters and are focused on evaluating their internal options. His peak value is going to be around deadline time, if he's playing well. He's a good fit for our 4th line in the meantime. I want to see how he plays, and even if he's not really wowing, I'd wait until the deadline in the hopes of maximizing return.
When you are mediocre in a **** company, not one notices you. When the company improves drastically, the spotlight starts to shine on your ****ness.

That is what is happening to Moen. The spotlight is now on him.

It is very, very difficult, especially with no money worries, to re motivate yourself in your profession, once you start gliding.

I have done it only once, and money worries were definitely motivation, along with pride, and most importantly, joining an elite office. It was still really hard to stop drifting and turn it around. Really hard. Imagine how much tougher it would be in NHL.

I think Moen does not give a **** really.

I want him off the Habs, as we start contending next year. Elite, in any profession, means no drifters. Moen's a drifter.

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09-17-2013, 10:03 AM
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Who do we replace him with? He brings size and a good defensive game to our 4th line, even fights once in a while. Don't see any prospects or UFAs to fill that spot.

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09-18-2013, 10:13 PM
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I don't think Moen is tradable right now... Was injuired last year but I still think he is overrated.
I hope he bounce back create enough value before the deadline for a team looking for some deep and vet presence for a playoff push be willing to take a chance.

Moen bring size but doesn't seem to bring any energy or physical presence, also he left all the dirty work to Prust last year and never really contributed in any other way.

Moen would be easily replaced Dumont, Bournival and Leblanc (even if they are all totally different players) could probably step in and be more of a factor the Moen.

I would be more than happy with a 3rd round pick

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09-18-2013, 10:55 PM
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Moen has been over used during his tenure in Montreal. We've used him in the top 6 at times to open up space because we lacked size. He's probably burnt out on top of being injured last year.

Him being used in a 4th line role where he is the 3rd fighter behind Parros and Prust will help him become more useful. Remember, he was our quasi enforcer for a while too. That takes a toll on a small guy like him. He can play on the 3rd line on many teams when he is healthy.

So many Habs fans don't understand what a typical 3rd line does. Moen is good defensively and he is tough. But he doesn't need to be on a 3rd line with Eller and Galchenyuk but he will help keep our 4th line a line that can play minutes against any team.

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09-19-2013, 12:51 AM
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As usual not anymore... just like gionta... we always wait for players to become valueless before we try to trade them.... on that sense it isnt much different than previous regimes.
When did we try to trade Gionta?

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When did we try to trade Gionta?
True, lol. I did. What I mean is when we will try he will be without value just like Moen.

I must have been drunk lol.

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09-19-2013, 08:14 AM
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True, lol. I did. What I mean is when we will try he will be without value just like Moen.

I must have been drunk lol.
We won't even try to trade were just going to make his contract run out and not sign him...

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09-19-2013, 08:16 AM
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I would trade Moen as soon as possible, if possible. Didn't like the fact that we sign him again at all. The guy has the habit of only playing well on contract year, and IMHO while he's serviceable and though, he can be replaced from within.

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Moen has just 2 years after this year at 1.85 million per.
Like others I would keep him till deadline and see then if he is needed still or of our depth has
Developed and r ready to step in

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09-19-2013, 08:18 AM
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I'd rather have the cap space than Moen at this point. That could help the habs so much more later on this year.

The Habs have 3 very capable lines. Going with a more specialized 4th line could go a long way. Parros need to be in the lineup but shouldnt play more than 6-8 minutes. Than Prust with some occasionnal icetime on another line to spark it and mid-way in the 3rd on the kid line + pk time and you got enough ice time for Prust. A filler like White and you're done.

Moen is big, but he's not (at least for 3 of the past 4 years... i guess he did well on his contract year)... hitting, he's not getting involved as much as he should and... aaaah i hate this player... sorry).

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09-19-2013, 08:24 AM
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I would trade Moen as soon as possible, if possible. Didn't like the fact that we sign him again at all. The guy has the habit of only playing well on contract year, and IMHO while he's serviceable and though, he can be replaced from within.

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09-19-2013, 08:34 AM
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Why is this board so obsessed about dumping players for next to nothing as soon as they struggle or have a down year?

We heard it with Plekanec a few years back, then Price when Halak got hot, then Markov when he got hurt again, then 2 years ago it was Bourque, now it's Moen Gorges and DD.

Sometimes the best players to have on your team are the ones trying to bounce back from an off year because they are the most motivated.

Instead of looking to trade DD Gorges Moen and LeBlanc, allow them time to bounce back because they all have "something to prove".

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09-19-2013, 08:38 AM
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Columbus has little to no depth down the middle, how about DD and Moen for Boll and a 3rd/4th round pick?

Team would look something like

Pacioretty-Glachenyuk-Briere
Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta
Bournival-Eller-Boll
Prust-White/Dumont-Parros/Dumont

Not bad?! Plus we would have a lot of cap space in 2014..

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09-19-2013, 08:49 AM
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Why is this board so obsessed about dumping players for next to nothing as soon as they struggle or have a down year?

We heard it with Plekanec a few years back, then Price when Halak got hot, then Markov when he got hurt again, then 2 years ago it was Bourque, now it's Moen Gorges and DD.

Sometimes the best players to have on your team are the ones trying to bounce back from an off year because they are the most motivated.

Instead of looking to trade DD Gorges Moen and LeBlanc, allow them time to bounce back because they all have "something to prove".
i kind of agree with you, but we are talking 4th liner here. Making almost 2 Millions a year (and he's not even the guy who will goes up in the lineup in case of injury, Prust is). That's not the kind of guy you keep on a long Leach just "in case" he can rebound.

At least imo. (But that's also because i consider Moen to have play 1 single good season in Montréal at this point, so i dont see last year as a down year)

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09-19-2013, 09:03 AM
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I like Moen but I think the market for him now is pretty slim. Waiting till the trade deadline seems like a good idea if only for the reason that Moen now might have a defined role more to his skillset ( good defensively, good on the forecheck).

I think that Moen is sort of a Prust lite in this situation, with more guys who can throw on the team he might have more time to focus on the other aspects of the game that he is good at, but this might admittedly be wishful thinking.

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09-19-2013, 09:11 AM
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Columbus has little to no depth down the middle, how about DD and Moen for Boll and a 3rd/4th round pick?

Team would look something like

Pacioretty-Glachenyuk-Briere
Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta
Bournival-Eller-Boll
Prust-White/Dumont-Parros/Dumont

Not bad?! Plus we would have a lot of cap space in 2014..
Haven't they resigned Boll really not long ago ?

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Columbus has little to no depth down the middle, how about DD and Moen for Boll and a 3rd/4th round pick?

Team would look something like

Pacioretty-Glachenyuk-Briere
Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta
Bournival-Eller-Boll
Prust-White/Dumont-Parros/Dumont

Not bad?! Plus we would have a lot of cap space in 2014..
Why do we desperately want to help Columbus and weaken our team? I don't see a big red cross on our jerseys.

Moen is a better hockey player than Boll and we already have plenty of fighters.

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i kind of agree with you, but we are talking 4th liner here. Making almost 2 Millions a year (and he's not even the guy who will goes up in the lineup in case of injury, Prust is). That's not the kind of guy you keep on a long Leach just "in case" he can rebound.

At least imo. (But that's also because i consider Moen to have play 1 single good season in Montréal at this point, so i dont see last year as a down year)
Still doesn't make much sense to give him away and replace him with Blunden. Moen has a long track record as a quality depth/grinding/physical/PK guy, no reason to think he won't bounce back. He showed up in camp 7 or 8 lbs lighter, so he probably came prepared.

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09-20-2013, 01:54 PM
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why is this board so obsessed about dumping players for next to nothing as soon as they struggle or have a down year?

We heard it with plekanec a few years back, then price when halak got hot, then markov when he got hurt again, then 2 years ago it was bourque, now it's moen gorges and dd.

Sometimes the best players to have on your team are the ones trying to bounce back from an off year because they are the most motivated.

Instead of looking to trade dd gorges moen and leblanc, allow them time to bounce back because they all have "something to prove".
dd and gorges have nothing to prove

one is useless center , the other is a third pairing on a great team

no value

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I like Moen but I think the market for him now is pretty slim. Waiting till the trade deadline seems like a good idea if only for the reason that Moen now might have a defined role more to his skillset ( good defensively, good on the forecheck).

I think that Moen is sort of a Prust lite in this situation, with more guys who can throw on the team he might have more time to focus on the other aspects of the game that he is good at, but this might admittedly be wishful thinking.
Moen has as much value as yesterdays newspaper

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09-20-2013, 02:00 PM
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i kind of agree with you, but we are talking 4th liner here. Making almost 2 Millions a year (and he's not even the guy who will goes up in the lineup in case of injury, Prust is). That's not the kind of guy you keep on a long Leach just "in case" he can rebound.

At least imo. (But that's also because i consider Moen to have play 1 single good season in Montréal at this point, so i dont see last year as a down year)
agreed but thats the problem with kockey

too much money to mediocrity

4-th d men like Gorges at 4 mil is a joke who do nothing well

nearly 4 for DD types who get you nowhere is ludacrous

when you have Josh, DD, Moen, Diaz , Gio eating 25% of your cap thats how you never improve , too much money to very easily replaceable players

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Very tradeable at the deadline if the habs can afford the trade. Remember Montreal got Moore for a 2nd some seasons ago. That's about what I would expect to get for Moen if he's not part of a package deal.

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