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09-19-2013, 08:37 AM
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Wow, Straka didn't last long. Hope he keeps the fire going.

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It is still early. We'll have to see with Raffl. Hopefully he is the next Read. Overall, I was hoping McGinn would have challenged for a spot a bit more and maybe a dark horse like Straka as well.
Bill M said it best, McGinn, since his injury, is looking very hesitant to play his rough and tough game. McGinn not playing that game will make it hard to make the NHL.

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Bill M said it best, McGinn, since his injury, is looking very hesitant to play his rough and tough game. McGinn not playing that game will make it hard to make the NHL.
That fight with Mike Brown was bad..he really left himself open to get his face smashed. If it has given him PTSD ...that fight was really costly. He's cooked if he is hesitant to play his game anymore.

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I like Laughton a lot and I think he's going to be a good nhl player, but I can't help but think it might be a good idea to use him as a trade chip to get a good PMD prospect. Anyone else share this feeling?

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I like Laughton a lot and I think he's going to be a good nhl player, but I can't help but think it might be a good idea to use him as a trade chip to get a good PMD prospect. Anyone else share this feeling?
I agree but I just don't think the PMD we are looking for would be available for Laughton. There would likely be a lot added in to that deal, which would deter me from making the move in all likelihood. Trading Laughton for a top tier defender would be ideal, but unlikely.

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09-19-2013, 12:08 PM
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I like Laughton a lot and I think he's going to be a good nhl player, but I can't help but think it might be a good idea to use him as a trade chip to get a good PMD prospect. Anyone else share this feeling?
We already have two good PMD prospects in Hagg and Gostisbehere. Is Laughton going to return a better player than them?

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09-19-2013, 12:13 PM
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I like Laughton a lot and I think he's going to be a good nhl player, but I can't help but think it might be a good idea to use him as a trade chip to get a good PMD prospect. Anyone else share this feeling?
I has the same thoughts as well. I'm thinking they let him play this year with the big club, let him showcase his skills off to the world, and see if there is any interest at the draft. Maybe include our first rounder with him and we might have a package to get a good pmd. We have a lot jam here at center, and he needs to move their eventually to make his biggest impact on any club

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Newbury/Danis/Holmstrom/Bourdon all waived for the purposes of assigning them to the Phantoms. Roster is a hair closer to being complete.

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Newbury/Danis/Holmstrom/Bourdon all waived for the purposes of assigning them to the Phantoms. Roster is a hair closer to being complete.
What are we looking at now, basically Laughton vs. Raffl? Gil vs. Gervais?

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thought they were going to put Bourdon on LTIR?

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thought they were going to put Bourdon on LTIR?
They can't until the season starts, Pronger's invited too.

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thought they were going to put Bourdon on LTIR?
He'll go on whatever the AHL's list I guess. There is a clause in the CBA allowing the Flyers to waive him, which is good, its less LTIR money that gets clogged up.

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We already have two good PMD prospects in Hagg and Gostisbehere. Is Laughton going to return a better player than them?
With Streit here for the next couple few seasons and those two coming closer and closer, I don't really see the Flyers looking for a pure PMD. What we lack is a two-way-defender who plays every situation at an elite level.
This guy may or may not be Morin, but Laughton sure as hell won't return this kind of player.

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What are we looking at now, basically Laughton vs. Raffl? Gil vs. Gervais?
Gill vs Gervais for the 8th spot?

There are still 7 other defensemen clearly above them.

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Gill vs Gervais for the 8th spot?

There are still 7 other defensemen clearly above them.
Sadly..Gervais should skate away with the spot if that is the case. Pick your poison

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I agree but I just don't think the PMD we are looking for would be available for Laughton. There would likely be a lot added in to that deal, which would deter me from making the move in all likelihood. Trading Laughton for a top tier defender would be ideal, but unlikely.
I'm thinking maybe a guy like Nathan Beaulieu?

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I'm thinking maybe a guy like Nathan Beaulieu?
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They can't until the season starts, Pronger's invited too.
yes I know. didnt expect him to be assigned if they had plans to LTIR him.

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So once Holmstrom, Newbury, MAB and Danis clear and go down the players left will be:

Schenn-Giroux-Voracek
Hartnell-Lecavalier-Simmonds
Raffl-Couturier-Read
Talbot-Hall-Rinaldo
VandeVelde-Laughton-Rosehill

Timonen-Schenn
Streit-Coburn
Grossmann-Gustafsson
Meszaros-Lauridsen
Gill-Gervais
Pronger

Mason
Emery

A lot of healthy competition for 6 and 7 D, 3LW and a 4th line spot.

I imagine:

Laughton, Raffl, VandeVelde (From the Field/of the field is literal translation! probably Belgian descent) and Hall seemingly fighting for two spots. Only as Rosehill will be kept as 13th forward as he can fight!

Gus vs Mez for #6

Gervais, Gill, Lauridsen (+ Mez or Gus) for #7. Though Lauridsen has being able to be sent down against him, plus development in AHL as a pro, so I imagine odds are against him.


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I'm not a fan of keeping Laughton to C the 4th line. I think he's more talented than that.

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09-19-2013, 02:29 PM
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I'm not a fan of keeping Laughton to C the 4th line. I think he's more talented than that.
I kind of agree with Bill's take on Laughton

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I would not be opposed to Laughton playing the fourth line center role as a rookie if he can beat out Hall for the job. I don't buy into the notion that a young, pro-ready forward -- defensemen and goalies are a somewhat different story -- can't develop if he's playing limited minutes in the NHL rather than big minutes on a junior team against lower-grade competition. Is it better to be practicing daily with and against the likes of Claude Giroux, Vincent Lecavalier and Sean Couturier or averaging over a point-per game in game action against OHL-grade competition?

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I was a mild doubter but morin looked great in the preseason. Fully support sending him down for another year for a few reasons but he really looks like a great Dman in the making.

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I kind of agree with Bill's take on Laughton
I think I'd want him to at least get a spot on the 3rd line if we're keeping him up. Kind of like Mike Richards's development path. Did Cannon ever touch the 4th line?

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Richards started on the 4th line.

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I think I'd want him to at least get a spot on the 3rd line if we're keeping him up. Kind of like Mike Richards's development path. Did Cannon ever touch the 4th line?
Not certain but I believe he started his rookie year on the 4th line behind Forsy, Carter, Zeus. Not for long too long anyways, but considering our core of forwards I would cap Laughton as an elite 3rd line center in any near future around here so I don't see why 4th line duties don't suffice, if not suite him better at the moment. Im sure he would be looking at some PK duty and immediate looks at top-9 when we have injuries. We have no need to force him up the depth chart and it puts him in a likely position to exceed expectations rather than fail or fight to meet them. Def worth the 9-game preview.
talbot-laughton-rinaldo would make for a dangerous 4th line if he can pull his weight in the circle. We also have the depth to release him to the WJC if theyd be willing to consider it.

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