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11-21-2006, 03:49 PM
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Anybody who thinks that Perreault would be putting up the same kind of numbers on a remotely talented team is kidding themselves.
LOL that makes no sense at all...Why wouldn't he put up as much or more points with a talented team if given the chance to play on the first two lines?

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11-21-2006, 04:19 PM
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LOL that makes no sense at all...Why wouldn't he put up as much or more points with a talented team if given the chance to play on the first two lines?
Why would you ask a question, then put a qualifier on the answer to the question?

A remotely talented team would not play Perreault as much because they could not stand for his liabilities. So they would pick and choose the spots with which to play him, thus giving him less ice time, resulting in less production.

Makes perfect sense.

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Why would you ask a question, then put a qualifier on the answer to the question?

A remotely talented team would not play Perreault as much because they could not stand for his liabilities. So they would pick and choose the spots with which to play him, thus giving him less ice time, resulting in less production.

Makes perfect sense.
Oh ok I guess that means that Ovechkin isn't that good neither is Frolov or Jokinen there getting way to much ice time.

Makes perfect sense.

If you get a lot of ice time it's because your doing something right and you deserve it by the way, that's how it works on any team.

It's incredible tough people are trying to put this guy down for nothing and saying the only reason why he's having any sucess is because of his ice time.


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If you get a lot of ice time it's because your doing something right and you deserve it by the way, that's how it works on any team.
Either that or you're not on a very good team. It's not hard to understand that the worse your teammates are, the easier it is to be better than them.

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If you get a lot of ice time it's because your doing something right and you deserve it by the way, that's how it works on any team.
I don't see why you're having issues understanding this.

The simple point whoever it was made is that Perreault chose a bad team so that he'd be assured sufficient ice time to put up his decent stats. And that Perreault would not get those kinds of stats on a good team, because he wouldn't earn the same amount of ice time.

I believe you understand this and agree with it, but you're just being obtuse about it for the sake of arguing it.

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11-22-2006, 08:07 AM
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Grit and determination?? Are we talking about Yannic Perreault here? When Perreault was with the habs he had two qualities: faceoffs and silky smooth hands.

Having great faceoffs skills might be great and all but they are much less valuable since Perreault never plays in the pk and he is not responsible enough to be put in most key defensive situations as well.

Perreault thought corners were for stamps, Perreault and grit goes well together as much as grit and Mariusz Czwerkawski. As well as having a non-existant physical game, he was brutal in the playmaking departement for a top-six center, he was small and slow. As far as determination is concerned he played zero defence and was a dissapearing act in important games. How come a guy being third in scoring got scratched late in the season by the Preds? How many playoff games did Perreault play for the Predators? Why did it take so long for Perreault to get a contract on the NHL if he is as great as you suggest? Conspiracy theory? I don't think so.

The fact is, as Mike already pointed out, Perreault is a statsheet player, nothing more. The new rules have helped at increasing his point output though, good for him.
Ok, straight out - do you think Ribs had more grit and determination? Better defensively? Better in the corners? Come on. Myself, I'd rather have Perreault than Ribeiro any day of the week - the guy could take draws like no tomorrow and imho played a much more inspired game of hockey than Ribs ever did with the Habs.

Look at our 2nd line center situation - we have been screwed ever since Ribs got put in there. We still do not have a 2nd line center who can take draws and make plays. Bottom line, I would have liked to see what Perreault could have done there. Perreault>Ribs right now.

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Ok, straight out - do you think Ribs had more grit and determination?
Yes.

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Better defensively?
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Better in the corners?
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Perreault>Ribs right now.
And yet Ribeiro earns twice as much as Perreault, and was considered a desirable commodity by a traditionally strong franchise, while Perreault was a healthy scratch through the playoffs, and not an asset of interest to any quality teams this year.

Seems NHL GMs disagree with your assessment, which is sufficient evidence for me.

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