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09-18-2013, 06:58 PM
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Ten storylines of 1A and 1B:

1. Richter - Vanbiesbrouck
2. Fuhr - Moog
3. Belfour - Hasek
4. Bower - Sawchuk
5. Hall - Plante
6. Holecek - Dzurilla
7. Fleury - Vokoun
8. Vachon - Worsley
9. Schneider - Luongo

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10. Nabokov - Kiprusoff (Us Sharks fan knew the Kipper was starter material!)

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09-18-2013, 07:42 PM
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Also from the same era, Pat Riggin and Al Jensen were pretty solid for a couple years. I always felt they truly were a tandem as neither of them was particularly notable in their own right, but made a serviceable combination.
Your post made me think of another goalie who ended up playing mostly in tandem with somebody else, who never got many accolades but who was a solid if unspectacular goalie in the 1980s: Reggie Lemelin.

Riggin and Lemelin were briefly a tandem in Calgary in the early part of the decade, after Dan Bouchard was traded to Quebec. On draft day 1982 the Flames brought in Don Edwards from Buffalo and sent Riggin packing to Washington. Lemelin and Edwards played pretty well together until Mike Vernon matured, at which point Edwards was sent packing. In their first year together ('85-'86) Lemelin got most of the starts in the regular season but Vernon asserted himself in the playoffs (Patrick Roy's ascendance overshadows the fact that Vernon too was a rookie goaltender who carried his team to the finals that year).

The roles were reversed between Vernon and Lemelin in the '86-'87 regular season with Vernon getting most of the starts (although the proportion was about 5 to 3; not far off from an even 50-50). Lemelin was a free agent after the '87 season and took his talents to Boston, replacing Bill Ranford. Ranford was traded to Edmonton for Andy Moog toward the end of the '87-'88 season, and for the next three years Moog and Lemelin split most of the regular season starts. Lemelin and Moog took the Bruins to the finals in '88 (mostly Lemelin) and '90 (mostly Moog), and the conference finals in '91 and '92.

Lemelin was mostly done by the '91-'92 season though, seeing only 18 games over the last two seasons of his career. Lemelin retired in '93 and Moog was dealt to Minnesota Dallas shortly thereafter for Jon Casey.

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09-18-2013, 08:07 PM
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Don't know who Hayward was. Was this the Montreal years? Did he get a sizable amount of starts with Roy, like close to 50% or 40/40?
He's known more these days as a (somewhat bombastic) color commentator, but he put together a fairly nice career as an NHL goaltender:

http://hockeygoalies.org/bio/hayward.html

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09-18-2013, 08:29 PM
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He's known more these days as a (somewhat bombastic) color commentator, but he put together a fairly nice career as an NHL goaltender:
Ya, he's been doing the Ducks broadcasts for quite a few years now.... seems one time he'd raised the hackles of Sean Avery with some remark. Upon seeing him in a hallway at the Pond, Avery tells Hayward "your an embarrassment to the game, the reason the NHL doesnt have a national broadcasting deal" blah blah blah. Hayward responds with"you wanna see an embarrassment Sean? Look in the mirror... and how would you know if I was a lousy player? You were in your 3rd year of the 4th Grade when I was playing" at which point Avery started moving towards him, broken up by a Ducks Assistant Coach. New York Times reporter happened to catch all of this, reports it in the paper next day.

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I've always been a huge Fuhr/Moog fan, staring with Moog's star turn in defeating Montreal during the 1981 playoffs --- during that regular season Edmonton had used Eddie Mio, Ron Low, and Gary Edwards.

During the years Fuhr and Moog were together (roughly 1981-1987) their regular season numbers were remarkably similar. Fuhr, naturally got the major playoff time, except for 1982-83, but they represented 1a and b incredibly well.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...y=games_goalie

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09-19-2013, 10:45 AM
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Bob Sauve-Don Edwards: Buffalo
Gerry Cheevers-Gilles Gilbert: Boston
Terry Sawchuk-Hank Bassen: Detroit (Sawchuk was one of the 1st advocates of the Two-Goalie system)

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Percy LeSueur/Clint Benedict

Doesn´t really fit in OPs criteria, but still great tandem from past. Shared work at Ottawa in 1912-13 and 13-14 NHA seasons.

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In recent years: Dwayne Roloson and Manny Fernandez were a terrific tandem in Minnesota in 2002-2003.

They split the season fairly evenly (50 games to 35, mainly because Fernandez was battling injuries), were #2 and #4 in save percentage, respectively, and were both top 10 in GAA. Then they split playoff games en route to the conference finals.

Backstrom and Fernandez in 2006-07 was another good one.

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And a +1 to the mention of the Moog/Lemelin tandem in the late '80s. Moog seems to get a bit underrated because he was usually part of excellent tandems rather than a clear-cut #1 during his prime.


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For a couple years Tony Esposito and Murray Bannerman made a pretty serviceable tandem.

Also from the same era, Pat Riggin and Al Jensen were pretty solid for a couple years. I always felt they truly were a tandem as neither of them was particularly notable in their own right, but made a serviceable combination.
Good call on Riggin and Jensen.

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How about Billy Smith and Roland Melanson?

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In terms of stats it has to be Dryden and Larouque.Dryden played about 50-55 games and Michel played between 25-30.And in a couple of seasons Michel had a better gaa
Just one season really: 1976-77 And even that year Dryden had a clearly better save percentage of .920 vs .910

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Bob Sauve-Don Edwards: Buffalo
yeah, really good duo, but as i recall, Edwards was the clear number one & Sauve was the backup

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He's known more these days as a (somewhat bombastic) color commentator, but he put together a fairly nice career as an NHL goaltender:

http://hockeygoalies.org/bio/hayward.html
most impressive stat?
the guy was a solid backup goalie for 11 seasons, playing in:

22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32

games in succession.
i mean, wow, that's incredible, who else in history has a perfect ascension of stats like that? how did he manage to accomplish this incredible statistical feat? it's almost impossible, it's like he planned his career that way from the start.

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most impressive stat?
the guy was a solid backup goalie for 11 seasons, playing in:

22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32

games in succession.
i mean, wow, that's incredible, who else in history has a perfect ascension of stats like that? how did he manage to accomplish this incredible statistical feat? it's almost impossible, it's like he planned his career that way from the start.

freaky
If you're reading them from my site, I think that you're looking at his age (although you did give me a moment of "wow - really?").

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If you're reading them from my site, I think that you're looking at his age (although you did give me a moment of "wow - really?").
Hahaha, I had the exact same reaction at first, until remembering that Hayward was actually a half-decent starter for Winnipeg for a few years when he was younger.

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If you're reading them from my site, I think that you're looking at his age (although you did give me a moment of "wow - really?").
oh, yeah, OOOOPS



so used to seeing GP in the first column!

looking at his stats again, it looks like you could really call Roy/Hayward a tandem, as the first few years with the Habs he played 35-39 games, guess i never realized that.

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Barrasso, Wregget no doubt.

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My pick goes to Bower/Sawchuck.

Post 04/05, I'd say Giguere/Bryzgalov.

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Ten storylines of 1A and 1B:

1. Richter - Vanbiesbrouck
2. Fuhr - Moog
3. Belfour - Hasek
4. Bower - Sawchuk
5. Hall - Plante
6. Holecek - Dzurilla
7. Fleury - Vokoun
8. Vachon - Worsley
9. Schneider - Luongo

and

10. Nabokov - Kiprusoff (Us Sharks fan knew the Kipper was starter material!)
Hasek only played 31 games total for Chicago.

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