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09-22-2013, 09:00 PM
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So this Leafs/Sabres game got pretty out of hand...
http://video.tsn.ca/?dl=pipe42/lates...1008937/clip/0

Awesome.

Scott starts goading Kessel before the face-off. Kessel gives him a lil shove on the shoulder, puck drops, Scott jumps Kessel and Kessel starts broadswording Scott's legs as two Leafs jump Scott. Clarkson comes off the bench. Bernier vs. Miller in a goalie fight.

Line brawl awesomeness.

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Bernier with some vicious rights... Still, edge goes to Potvin.

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09-22-2013, 09:13 PM
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Say what you will about the ugly contract, but we really could've used Clarkson jumping over the bench and going after Kassian

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Say what you will about the ugly contract, but we really could've used Clarkson jumping over the bench and going after Kassian
And suspending himself for 10 games? No thank you.

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09-22-2013, 09:25 PM
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And suspending himself for 10 games? No thank you.
I'd rather a team full of people that won't hesitate to do what it takes to stand up for a teammate, and get the odd suspension, than watch another guy get hurt without any retaliation

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09-22-2013, 09:28 PM
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Say what you will about the ugly contract, but we really could've used Clarkson jumping over the bench and going after Kassian
Clarkson didn't do anything. Scott was already on the ice when clarkson comes in. Stupid decision.

On the kessel slash, beauty, I love it. If a goon comes after you and your a finesse guy then let them have it. I'd rather have ebs two hand a goon then engaging. The second slash looked worse but he held up.

Although if kessel was challenging scott and then backed out ( like we weise against Shawn Thornton) I would not condone it

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09-22-2013, 09:29 PM
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John Scott got Clarkson (leaving the bench) and Kessel ( multiple 2 handed slashes and a spear) in hot water with the league.

Leafs are the losers in that fiasco.

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09-22-2013, 09:29 PM
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Also to anyone who advocates adding a face puncher in order to be a deterrent. Scott didn't look very deterred that he has to face orr next game.

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09-22-2013, 09:37 PM
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Clarkson didn't do anything. Scott was already on the ice when clarkson comes in. Stupid decision.

On the kessel slash, beauty, I love it. If a goon comes after you and your a finesse guy then let them have it. I'd rather have ebs two hand a goon then engaging. The second slash looked worse but he held up.

Although if kessel was challenging scott and then backed out ( like we weise against Shawn Thornton) I would not condone it
That's not the point. Clearly Clarkson wouldn't have hesitated to go after Kassian and make him answer for hurting Gagner

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09-22-2013, 09:40 PM
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I'd rather a team full of people that won't hesitate to do what it takes to stand up for a teammate, and get the odd suspension, than watch another guy get hurt without any retaliation
Meh, the best way to beat them is by hunting after their stars later in the game or even better, score multiple goals on them and get the W. No need to degrade down into that level.

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09-22-2013, 09:43 PM
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Good for Kessel for sticking up for himself though. Was McClaren or Orr dressed for the game?

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That's not the point. Clearly Clarkson wouldn't have hesitated to go after Kassian and make him answer for hurting Gagner
And some how that unbreaks Gagners jaw?

So now our new 5.25 million FA and 2nd line center are out for 10 games. 1/3 of your top six is out

If the myth about clarkson and orr being scary deterrants was real then Scott wouldn't have went after Kessel

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09-22-2013, 09:51 PM
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Meh, the best way to beat them is by hunting after their stars later in the game or even better, score multiple goals on them and get the W. No need to degrade down into that level.
As evil as that sounds, the threat of your goon taking action against their top player is a much better deterrent than the current way its done. Goons will run around all day if the only repercussion is a suspension. Which is really not bad for them since they are probably sitting anyway. But if its an eye for an eye that'd think twice. And no gm will employee punchers if it means their star players could be collateral damage.

Dirty hits from goons and rats start to die down

a good pp is another way tho

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09-22-2013, 09:53 PM
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The pre season is getting out of hand. I am not a fan of Kessel slashing a guy and then fighting a smaller guy and beating him.

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09-22-2013, 09:56 PM
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The pre season is getting out of hand. I am not a fan of Kessel slashing a guy and then fighting a smaller guy and beating him.
What was kessel supposed to do, get filled and risk injury?

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09-22-2013, 10:13 PM
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What was kessel supposed to do, get filled and risk injury?
Just skate away. Why was he even on the ice when Scott was? Him slashing the guy just makes him look worse to me.

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09-22-2013, 10:33 PM
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There is no deterrent factor, and clearly any team will trade off a goon being suspended for even 10 games if it means a rival's star player misses half the season.

You really want a deterrent? Suspend the other team's equivalent talent-level player for 10 games. Or suspend the goon and the coach.

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Just skate away. Why was he even on the ice when Scott was? Him slashing the guy just makes him look worse to me.
True on being on the ice. Dumb move by the coach. But it looked like Scott was chasing after him. the only place he could have went was the bench. Which would have been used against him for the next 20 years

And Scott deserved a good slash to the wrists for pulling that. Ideally hes not even in the NHL. But unfortuantly GMs still think these guys have actual value somehow, so the next best thing you can do is defend yourself the best way you can

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09-22-2013, 11:09 PM
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I'd have done the same thing as Kessel if that big **** came after me, but I'd probably have aimed a little higher.

You could tell by slashing his legs though he just wanted some distance between him and Scott and wasn't really trying to do that much damage IMO.

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09-22-2013, 11:17 PM
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Just skate away. Why was he even on the ice when Scott was? Him slashing the guy just makes him look worse to me.
I think the idea was to diffuse the situation, lol.

That's what Carlyle said. He threw out skill, so there wouldn't be any fights.

Didn't work out.

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09-23-2013, 12:26 AM
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I'd have done the same thing as Kessel if that big **** came after me, but I'd probably have aimed a little higher.

You could tell by slashing his legs though he just wanted some distance between him and Scott and wasn't really trying to do that much damage IMO.
Exactly. There's nothing wrong with what Kessel did. You can't blame him for not wanting to fight Scott

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Yeah! Kessel Kessel'd it, and we're thankful he didn't Kassian it, or worse, McSorley it.

Did I get it right?

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http://video.tsn.ca/?dl=pipe42/lates...1008937/clip/0

Awesome.

Scott starts goading Kessel before the face-off. Kessel gives him a lil shove on the shoulder, puck drops, Scott jumps Kessel and Kessel starts broadswording Scott's legs as two Leafs jump Scott. Clarkson comes off the bench. Bernier vs. Miller in a goalie fight.

Line brawl awesomeness.
~waits to hear Miller goes on LTIR from concussion~

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I'm just curious to see if the league sticks to its 10 game suspension.

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Ridiculous events even more ridiculous by the virtue of it being preseason

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