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Brenden Morrow signs with the Blues for 1 year [$1.5m] [NTC]

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09-22-2013, 05:06 PM
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Would have loved him back on the Penguins. Still plays a gritty in your face game even if he has slowed down.

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09-22-2013, 05:09 PM
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At first I wasn't wild about this idea. But Morrow is actually only 34. I know this is HF, so 34 might as well be 64. How I see it though is that the average retiring age of a Top 6 forward is somewhere between 36-40. So Morrow will still be playable for about 2-6 more years.

So I'm not against adding Morrow to the roster. But I don't want him pushing out players that need development time, or players who are on the edge of a breakout.

As long as Morrow was used as a specialty player... 4th line role, maybe more regarding injuries as the year goes on... then I'm okay with it.

Though I'm also worried about what all these vets means for the locker room. David Backes needs to be the Captain. He can't be Captain in title while random-old-vet leads the room year in and year out. But I'm not in the room, so I can't really speak to that point. Something that potentially concerns me.

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09-22-2013, 05:36 PM
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He looked alright on the Pens until he split his knee cap in the playoffs. But over an 82 game season he's certainly not going to be any quicker than he was back with Dallas.
Yea, we all loved him, but he just can't play his game anymore, especially not over a full season. He'd look okay for a half dozen games or so then he'd slow down and he'd randomly lose an edge and cough the puck up constantly. I hope he does well, just hope nobody expects much.

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09-22-2013, 05:45 PM
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He might be our 13 forward, rotate with Sobi and porter till injuries happen. I personally want porter on the fourth over Morrow and i can't see the reason we need him,i thought our roster was set but if we sign him we sign him. Only way i see this making sense is if we send paajarvi down.

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09-22-2013, 06:17 PM
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Steen - Backes - Oshie

Paajarvi - Roy - Stewart

Schwartz - Berglund - Tarasenko

Morrow - Lapierre - Sobotka



scary..

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09-22-2013, 06:58 PM
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At first I wasn't wild about this idea. But Morrow is actually only 34. I know this is HF, so 34 might as well be 64. How I see it though is that the average retiring age of a Top 6 forward is somewhere between 36-40. So Morrow will still be playable for about 2-6 more years.

So I'm not against adding Morrow to the roster. But I don't want him pushing out players that need development time, or players who are on the edge of a breakout.

As long as Morrow was used as a specialty player... 4th line role, maybe more regarding injuries as the year goes on... then I'm okay with it.

Though I'm also worried about what all these vets means for the locker room. David Backes needs to be the Captain. He can't be Captain in title while random-old-vet leads the room year in and year out. But I'm not in the room, so I can't really speak to that point. Something that potentially concerns me.
Exactly my feelings. I don't get it.

I believe the Blues want him for his locker room presence and word is Armstrong and Hitchcock are not at all happy with the fourth line role players.

I think Morrow is delaying his signing because he wants a more prominent role than a fourth line (and sparingly on the third line) player.

When Langenbrunner signed he was told exactly what his role was before he signed.


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09-22-2013, 07:22 PM
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Exactly my feelings. I don't get it.

I believe the Blues want him for his locker room presence and word is Armstrong and Hitchcock are not at all happy with the fourth line roll players.

I think Morrow is delaying his signing because he wants a more prominent roll than a fourth line (and sparingly on the third line) player.

When Langenbrunner signed he was told exactly what his roll was before he signed.
The hit on Sobotka had everything to do with it, not to mention that Army has trying to get Morrow in St. Louis for over a year. Once the Sobotka thing blew up, Hitch and Army realized they still have issues they need to address and they made an offer to Morrow.

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09-22-2013, 07:24 PM
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Exactly my feelings. I don't get it.

I believe the Blues want him for his locker room presence and word is Armstrong and Hitchcock are not at all happy with the fourth line roll players.

I think Morrow is delaying his signing because he wants a more prominent roll than a fourth line (and sparingly on the third line) player.

When Langenbrunner signed he was told exactly what his roll was before he signed.
It's buttered or NOTHING!!!

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09-22-2013, 08:02 PM
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Dont mind the move either way as long as it does not take any PP time or top 6 minutes away from Schwartz or Vlad...If they put him on 4th line and use him only for injuries in the top 9 I will be ok with it otherwise I do not like it.

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09-22-2013, 08:29 PM
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The Blues sure do like having an over the hill forward on the roster. From Arnott to Langenbrunner to Nichol and now Morrow.
Nichol was actually very good for us his first year here. His second year is a different story.

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Nichol was actually very good for us his first year here. His second year is a different story.
Arnott was productive for the most part as well.

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Arnott was productive for the most part as well.
He had a really good first half. Definitely slowed down a lot in the second half though.

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The hit on Sobotka had everything to do with it
So, are we going to play Morrow on every line, to be the white knight for every guy on the team that takes a questionable hit?

Bringing in Morrow really doesnt make a whole lot of sense.

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09-22-2013, 10:33 PM
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It's buttered or NOTHING!!!

Lol. Sometimes I just have a brain fart when I'm typing fast.

I will edit them rolls!

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Dont mind the move either way as long as it does not take any PP time or top 6 minutes away from Schwartz or Vlad...If they put him on 4th line and use him only for injuries in the top 9 I will be ok with it otherwise I do not like it.
See that's what concerns me, if we see Morrow end up on the PP it looks like Hitch has little faith in his players to develop and the same will be said by the fans in regards to Hitchcock's ability to get them there.

Maybe they just want some security and I know Armstrong has vowed never to end up in injury hell getting beaten to the punch on UFA waivers after that weird season transpired.

I just wish it didn't feel like offensive production was nothing more than an experiment on this team. As if there was even one or two guys who was reliably cemented into their role. Backes, Steen, Stewart, and Oshie do a great job of reminding us they can just grab the puck press into the zone and rip one. Then nothing for 4 games, so suddenly our we need our wingers to show up and maybe one of them gets a multi point game... then more nothing.

We're not talking about streaking scoring we're talking about highlight reel games keeping some players even in the top half of scoring while the rest of their season looks like the playoffs production-wise. The PP isn't a threat it's a lucky opportunity to see one go in, the transition game is great then once the puck is deep we're just funneling loose passes to the slot with no target.

They keep bringing in back-up plan veterans that are only supposed to be injury reserves and mentors not carrying 20% of the scoring in a season. Yet that's how they end up being used for better or worse because guys like Stewart go invisible so fast, and guys like Steen are too busy being shuffled around, and guys like Sobotka are smart enough to get points but just not the kind of athlete we need to match up against elite competition.

If we can't rely on Schwartz and Tarasenko to eat up that extra scoring and ice time we really, really, need the coaches to refine our current top 6 players into guys who look like they belonged there from the start of the game to the end.

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09-23-2013, 06:46 AM
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Morrow's lost a few steps the past couple seasons but he should still provide a bit of veteran leadership for the team.

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Morrow's lost a few steps the past couple seasons but he should still provide a bit of veteran leadership for the team.
If they need to bring in a veteran for leadership on a cup run then this team isn't going anywhere. This core has been together long enough that there should be enough leaders on this team. All Morrow would be doing is taking away ice time from younger, more talented players.

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Apparently not. LeBrun reporting that the deal is now agreed.

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Brenden Morrow has agreed to a one-year deal with the St. Louis. Obvious connection there with Hitchcock/Armstrong from Dallas days...

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I guess we can now expect a trade or two of a Blues forward.

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Steen - Backes - Oshie

Paajarvi - Roy - Stewart

Schwartz - Berglund - Tarasenko

Morrow - Lapierre - Sobotka



scary..
I find their blueline much more terrifying. Dunno if Morrow is the right fit for St. Louis. They seem to be deviating from that extremely aggressive fourth line that gave LA fits throughout the playoffs.

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I guess we can now expect a trade or two of a Blues forward.
It's possible, but we could just send Cracknell down to the AHL. We have Porter, Reaves, Lapierre, Sobotka and now Morrow for the fourth line. If Cracknell is claimed, we'll still have Andronov in the AHL for that type of role.

Morrow's deal is $1.5m for the year.

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Really surprised by this given the organizational commitment to Cracknell and Porter. And how well they played at the end of last year and in the playoffs.

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