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09-23-2013, 09:20 PM
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Bourque goers hot to cold to hot again, game by game, but overall the good outweighs the bad, and you definitely keep rolling him out there every night.

I think now we're looking at:

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Briere
Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta
Galchenyuk-Eller-Gallagher
Prust-White-Moen/Parros

Gorges-Subban
Markov-Tinordi
Murray-Diaz/Boullion
(IR-Drewiskie/Emelin)

Price
Budaj

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09-23-2013, 09:21 PM
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I suspect Pacioretty learned some techniques from teammates around him. Cammy gave him sniper tips. Cole gave him the tips on how to rehab and use his speed and power. Not sure who is giving these dekeing lessons to Pacioretty though...
Galchenyuk.

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09-23-2013, 09:22 PM
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Difficult game for Tinordi, looked out of place numerous times.
I did not see this. He had a few problems but he is certainly NHL ready.
Top-5 in Habs.

Edit: He has great stick work. Much better than last year. JJ is working his magic.

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09-23-2013, 09:22 PM
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Agree regarding White.

Bourque can be a damned good player when he is engaged and not simply skating up and down the ice.
oh for sure. He can be a lot more physically engaged but I think that comes when the real season starts. I swear though I see him do little things here and there that look good.

And Bournival should get top 9 minutes or be in the AHL.

He looked better as the game went on and his style of game would probably suit the 4th line pretty well but I just think he's too good for it IMO.

If they put him on the 4th line I won't lose it and it probably won't hurt him but I think he's better suited with top 9 mins or tearing it up in Hamilton.

Honestly all of these options are fine. There's really no point to this post.

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09-23-2013, 09:22 PM
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I really don't see how Tinordi doesn't start the season with us.

He's playing like a 3rd D right now.

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09-23-2013, 09:23 PM
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Oh boy.... seasoned posters jumping to all kinds of conclusions after a couple of games for lots of thee guys . Maybe after a few games into the season you will find your rhythm and become rational again...

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09-23-2013, 09:23 PM
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Wtf is Gagnon talking about?

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09-23-2013, 09:24 PM
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Bourque goers hot to cold to hot again, game by game, but overall the good outweighs the bad, and you definitely keep rolling him out there every night.

I think now we're looking at:

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Briere
Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta
Galchenyuk-Eller-Gallagher
Prust-White-Bournival/Parros

Gorges-Subban
Markov-Tinordi
Murray-Diaz/Boullion
(IR-Drewiskie/Emelin)

Price
Budaj


Made the correction.

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09-23-2013, 09:27 PM
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I really don't see how Tinordi doesn't start the season with us.

He's playing like a 3rd D right now.
He does look like he could actually handle 2nd pairing minutes with some struggles but a lot of good stuff to build on.

I can't see him not handling 3rd pairing duties.

Same as Bournival (though Tinner looks slightly more NHL ready) though I won't lose it if Tinordi goes back to Hamilton. He could possibly develop his latent/not so latent offensive game there with big minutes.

I want him to stay and think that he should all in all but I won't blow a gasket if he goes to Hamilton.

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09-23-2013, 09:28 PM
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Wtf is Gagnon talking about?
dunno, they always seem to hate on Tinordi...after praising his game....

We would like to see him make the team but we have Bouillon! But they wont name Bouillon they just says ''too many 1-way contracts''

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09-23-2013, 09:29 PM
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Made the correction.
I think Bournival would be best served playing big minutes in Hamilton.


With Moen signed, I think that's what happens.

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09-23-2013, 09:30 PM
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I really don't see how Tinordi doesn't start the season with us.

He's playing like a 3rd D right now.
He is great on the left side and good on the right side.

Problem is when Emelin comes back. Tinordi will have played 14 games and will even be better...

There will be a fight for top-4 this season with him.

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09-23-2013, 09:31 PM
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I have no idea why people hate Ryan White.

Look at 'em for chrissakes! He's miles ahead of Moen in terms of usefulness.

Sure those bad penalties were really really bad last year but at least they came from over spirited play.

You take away those bad moves and you got a crazy as s#$t 4th liner who has pretty decent offense and is a great face off guy.

Still don't get the Bourque hate either. His line wasn't the greatest but he looked like the better one on it.

Either way preseason or not, a win against the stingy as F#$@ Devils is always a good sign.
I Don't get the hate myself. Since that preseason back in 2010 I wanted white on this team. He brings the flare we need. Once he is able to control himself he can be a really effective player.

The hate on bourque around here can be shocking bitter. Maybe people don't like his contract or the fact he is less way less talented than cammy but Bourque is big and uses his size well. He doesn't have great hands but he does in the dirty places. Just look back at the playoffs. People say we need size but why get rid of Bourque if we need it

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I think Bournival would be best served playing big minutes in Hamilton.


With Moen signed, I think that's what happens.
Dumont and Bournival are fighting for the first call up spot.

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09-23-2013, 09:31 PM
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Tinordi didnt look out of place. The only time he looked bad was during that one PK where NJ scored. Thats about it. He just couldnt clear the puck with the backhand. One thing he needs to work on, by the way.

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Hopefully Bournival stays with the big club for a while longer. He has done everything he could have to earn a spot on this team. It would be really disappointing to see him sent down at this point.
I usually pride myself on having a good idea where everyone is developmentally, and who is capable of what, but I gotta say that Bournival is one of the biggest surprises I've ever seen in a pre-season. I'd pencil him into that 4th line right now.

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09-23-2013, 09:33 PM
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dunno, they always seem to hate on Tinordi...after praising his game....

We would like to see him make the team but we have Bouillon! But they wont name Bouillon they just says ''too many 1-way contracts''
Seriously...they will make room for Tinordi if they want him there. Can't help but laugh at him if he thinks Bergevin will decide if Tinordi stays or not.

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09-23-2013, 09:34 PM
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hummm, no just no...

Briere Prust and Bourque were by far the worst players on the ice today....

BTW they should try Galchenyuk with Plekanec and Gionta and move Bourque on the 3rd..

NO WAY Tinordi and Bournival are send to Hamilton.... Tinordi offence is very underrated!
Damn that Bournival kid is fast!
Prust was good within his role.

Bourque did good (I'm not his biggest fan as well, but he's faster than DD, and big).

As I said, Diaz brought less offense than Tinordi tonight. He brings nothing our team doesn't already has.

I wouldn't mind Galchenyuk with Pleks. I remember last year the clip RDS made with Pleks and Chucky.

I want Bournival to make the team too, we'll see, right now he's hot.

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Therrien basically avoided the Tinordi question and just spoke about the defence as a whole. Bleh.

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I suspect Pacioretty learned some techniques from teammates around him. Cammy gave him sniper tips. Cole gave him the tips on how to rehab and use his speed and power. Not sure who is giving these dekeing lessons to Pacioretty though...
last year you could see him trying to stick handle more and add some finesse to his game.

Even though it had mixed results at times, I was glad that he was trying to add that dimension to his game because it will obviously make him that much better. It's pretty rare that a player can add these features to his game (along with his sniping) at this point in one's career.

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Tinordi should make the team.



no way. NO WAY.

Moen,Galchenyuk and Eller the the worst Habs.
Agreed. Lot of built in bias towards Briere and Bourque. Both looked fine. Briere just makes smart plays with the puck that seem to almost lead to something. Not afraid to buzz around the net and even got a takedown!

Seasoned vets in their 30s tend not to shine in preseason but I like what I see from his game.

Bourque wasn't running people over but he was involved. Didn't shine but he was far from bad.

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Bourque goers hot to cold to hot again, game by game, but overall the good outweighs the bad, and you definitely keep rolling him out there every night.

I think now we're looking at:

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Briere
Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta
Galchenyuk-Eller-Gallagher
Prust-White-Moen/Parros

Gorges-Subban
Markov-Tinordi
Murray-Diaz/Boullion
(IR-Drewiskie/Emelin)

Price
Budaj
Swap Pleks and Eller.

Pleks is suffering with Bourque on his wing.

Galchenyuk is suffering with Eller as his center.

I really think that Pleks and the Gally's would be worth trying. Eller/Bourque could be a pretty good shut-down line.

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I think Bournival would be best served playing big minutes in Hamilton.
Disagree. He's not someone whose offense nor confidence needs cultivating, and those are the main reasons from keeping someone back when otherwise they seem ready to make the jump. All that seems left for him to learn is how to handle the grind of a full season at the top level. His game seems ready for a 4th line spot right now, and I bet he'd be integrated into the PK before long as well.

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