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09-26-2013, 02:57 AM
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Absolute no from the Leafs.

Dion Phaneuf is a better player than a guy who is paid to contribute like a first liner but produces like a lower tier second line centre.

#1 d-men >>>>>>>>>> #2-3 centres, AINEC.
Saying Stastny is #3 center is a joke.

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09-26-2013, 09:25 AM
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Stastny + Johnson + 4th

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Phaneuf + Bozak + 2nd
Avs downgrade in all 3 spots. I wouldn't trade ej for phaneuf straight up.

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If Toronto was serious about trading Phaneuf they could easily get more
Agree and I think the Avs feel the same about holding on to Stastny for a while and giving him 2nd line minutes and wingers.

It will be interesting if both Dion and Stastny end up being rental moves this year at the deadline though. Would be fun to compare how each player's return measures up. I'd wager both have new deals in place before then though and neither are moved.

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Leafs don't need another 2C, especially at the expense of our best D.

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09-26-2013, 11:52 AM
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Avs downgrade in all 3 spots. I wouldn't trade ej for phaneuf straight up.
Besides the fact that Phaneuf is better than Stastny, how do you figure that going from a COL 4th to a TOR 2nd is a downgrade?

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09-26-2013, 12:16 PM
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Besides the fact that Phaneuf is better than Stastny, how do you figure that going from a COL 4th to a TOR 2nd is a downgrade?
Bolded because that's bold.

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09-26-2013, 12:17 PM
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Phaneuf has indicated he wants to stay in Toronto and is a huge part of the team and a more impactful player.

Well Phaneuf was appearing in the 2012 all-star game and leading his team into the playoffs last season (well getting some Norris votes) and scoring at a 45 point pace meanwhile Stastny has scored at just above a 50 point pace over the last 2 years.

For those that want to go back to further history to make the case for Stastny and mentioned he was a PPG player than it also to be mentioned that Phaneuf finished 2nd in Norris voting around that same time period.

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09-26-2013, 12:17 PM
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Besides the fact that Phaneuf is better than Stastny, how do you figure that going from a COL 4th to a TOR 2nd is a downgrade?
Whoops, read it backwards. But still, I'd rather have Stasny than Bozak and EJ than Phaneuf. The difference isn't a 4th for a 2nd. That trade nets us a long term center that we absolutely don't need, a defenseman that could leave as a UFA next summer, and a 2 round pick bump.

The absolute LAST THING the Avs need to do is trade a locked up defenseman and pending UFA center for a locked up center and pending UFA defenseman. It is the exact opposite of what we need.

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I hear Dion insists on being in charge of the music in the locker room and plays terrible pop music. Pass.

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I hear Dion insists on being in charge of the music in the locker room and plays terrible pop music. Pass.
You're way late to the party. Thats so 2011

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Big "no" from the Leafs. Not sure why the OP seems to think Phaneuf needs a change of scenery. That's not true at all. He likes playing in Toronto and he's doing just fine here.

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Big "no" from the Leafs. Not sure why the OP seems to think Phaneuf needs a change of scenery. That's not true at all. He likes playing in Toronto and he's doing just fine here.
How quickly we forget. Phaneuf was Toronto's most hated player among leaf fans in the playoffs last year. After the Krejci overtime goal leafs fans would have traded him for Matt Hunwick.

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I hate hate hate hate hate Phaneuf and think he is over rated. With that being said, I wouldn't trade him for Stastny.

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Why does Phaneuf need a change of scenery?

Top 10 in norris voting
Top 10 in hits
Top 10 in points
Top 10 in goals
All while facing the highest quality of competition in the league.

Phaneuf isnt perfect but he isnt a player that looks like he would vastly improve by going to another team. He isnt a guy the team should be looking to trade and certainly not for a guy who's numbers have regressed for several straight seasons.
Ya but intangibles

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Some people on here say stastny, is a number 2 even people saying hes a number 3 center on some teams. I honstly think and mean no disrespect when I say this , staz is a number one on the leafs.

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Not a fan of either team or player but this deal makes no sense to me from a TO perspective. I think TO fans over rate Phaneuf but the fact is he is the best d man TO has for better or worse

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Some people on here say stastny, is a number 2 even people saying hes a number 3 center on some teams. I honstly think and mean no disrespect when I say this , staz is a number one on the leafs.
Yeah, but it doesn't change his value. He's a number 2. It doesn't matter if he'd be a 1 or a 4 on the leafs.

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Yeah, but it doesn't change his value. He's a number 2. It doesn't matter if he'd be a 1 or a 4 on the leafs.
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I'd do it from the Avs POV, their center depth and their lack of good dmen would make it an easy call for me.
Toronto on the other hand...I don't think they would have made the playoffs last year without Phaneuf and I don't think they will this year with Staz in and their #1 d out.

that said, I value dmen more than forwards.

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Phaneuf is a number 1 d-man

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Phaneuf is a number 1 d-man
yes he is, on the Leafs. Stastny is a number one center on the Leafs. so what?

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Phaneuf is a number 1 d-man
On half of the teams in the league yeah. The half or so of the teams that don't have a #1 Dman.

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Phaneuf is a number 1 d-man
Agreed. Top 15. Including Stastny in the same sentence as Phaneuf is a joke.

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yes he is, on the Leafs. Stastny is a number one center on the Leafs. so what?
Phaneuf is a number 1 dman on many more teams than Stastny is a number 1 center.

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As a Leafs fan, I am always amazed at the infatuation of Paul Stastny as a #1C on the Leafs.

The guy hasn't been a #1C of some success in over 4 years. #overrated

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