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A Few Teams "Circling" Paul Postma

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09-25-2013, 06:39 AM
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I'd prefer Clitsome, he can skate.

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09-25-2013, 06:55 AM
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He's a decent #6/#7 on most rosters IMO. Serviceable, but has been in and out of the AHL a lot over the years.

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I'd prefer Clitsome, he can skate.
He's the Jets #4D and has great chemistry with Buff. More importantly, he's left-handed. This thread is about the Jets logjam at rhd.

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Would the Jets be willing to work out a deal with the Avs around Postma for Stefan Elliott. Very similar players but Elliott still has a year left to his 2 way contract. He could use a minor league team like St. John's for a year to hopefully develop to where he is expected.

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09-25-2013, 08:11 AM
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Why the hell wouldn't you just waive Pardy and hope someone claims him or trade him for a very late pick and keep Postma?
I would guess that the Jets plans for Pardy was to always go to St. Johns.

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Didn't know he's only 24. Still potential and value there.

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He's a very similar player to your Weirciotch although not as proven at the NHL level.
He's not. Wiercioch is a legit #4/5 on a playoff team and is much more defensively responsible.

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He's a younger Joe Corvo and the poor man's David Rundblad in terms of Offense/defense abilities.
This is closer.

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Why the hell wouldn't you just waive Pardy and hope someone claims him or trade him for a very late pick and keep Postma?
That's probably the short term plan. Postma will not hit waivers - mark my word. We'd probably put Stuart on waivers before Postma.

Medium term Postma is trade bait. We have massive depth at RHD:

Buff
Bogosian
Trouba
Postma
Redmond

All NHL ready, we probably have the deepest RHD core in the league. We also have Kichton who could be in the NHL within a year, or maybe two.


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09-25-2013, 04:27 PM
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Rangers have interest in him commensurate with his actual PP abilities and a little above that additionally as to potential.

What are Jets needs currently?
What is fair/small premium price in your opinion?

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Rangers have interest in him commensurate with his actual PP abilities and a little above that additionally as to potential.

What are Jets needs currently?
What is fair/small premium price in your opinion?
It could be argued that our team has zero 3rd liners that could play there on a top 10 team. Jokinen is square peg round hole and the wingers are all firmly entrenched in 'meh' territory. Start there.

As for Postma, really good offensive instincts. But his defensive instincts don't seem to me like they'll ever be at a true top four level. He's kind of soft too. But he is 6'3 and a good skater so at least he isn't a pure physical mismatch for scoring forwards to prey on.

He's pretty damn effective at offense. With a dependable stay at home partner he'll be an NHL regular for a while I think.

No one is gonna give up the farm for him though.

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What are Jets needs currently?
What is fair/small premium price in your opinion?
Don't have any glaring holes currently, maybe 3rd line lw or an upgrade at third line lhd over Stuart. No glaring holes currently, but that's due to a lack of information as we have lots of new bodies.

I think a third rounder would do it, but we are probably going to wait to see if his value will go up. Better defensive play, increase in points production, injuries to other teams and very tight cap situations all point to his value increasing as the season moves on.

We aren't in a rush at all.

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09-26-2013, 02:27 PM
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No interest? A 3rd is too high of asking price? Anyone? Hello?

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09-26-2013, 02:42 PM
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No interest? A 3rd is too high of asking price? Anyone? Hello?
Patience my friend.
Third is a little pricey but not unreasonable.

Would like to see about player/prospect swap, maybe smaller pick involved.
It's not huge cap to add, but coming up close against it.
Let me get back to you.

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09-26-2013, 02:51 PM
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I'd like to see him on the Sens for sure but it won't happen. Da Costa for Postma could work?

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Patience my friend.
Third is a little pricey but not unreasonable.
Funny how the previous post I was saying we weren't in a rush. I was just expecting more of a response.

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Would like to see about player/prospect swap, maybe smaller pick involved.
It's not huge cap to add, but coming up close against it.
Let me get back to you.
I'm not sure if Chevy would just do a prospect swap, sell for picks, or put him in a package for a higher skilled player. Too many questions at this point. Throw enough offers against the wall, I'm sure something would eventually stick. I can see a team with a lot of injuries overpaying for Postma, especially if their PP is suffering. Think Montreal getting Kaberle.

It is nice having an asset that we have too much of finally.

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I always thought he was kind of underrated. His defensive game may be nothing to write home about but he's pretty impressive in the offensive zone. Maybe I don't watch him enough to see of all his warts up close, though.

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He's pushed down our depth chart because Buff and Enstrom are elite offensively, Bogosian and Clitsome are both good defensively.

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09-26-2013, 03:29 PM
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Not really sure why teams would give up an asset for Postma when guys like Cundari, Kundratek, and Blum were all on waivers in the past few days.

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09-26-2013, 05:12 PM
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Don't have any glaring holes currently, maybe 3rd line lw or an upgrade at third line lhd over Stuart. No glaring holes currently, but that's due to a lack of information as we have lots of new bodies.

I think a third rounder would do it, but we are probably going to wait to see if his value will go up. Better defensive play, increase in points production, injuries to other teams and very tight cap situations all point to his value increasing as the season moves on.

We aren't in a rush at all.
Didn't say you were or should be in a rush.
Those other things, yes, increase his value.
Tight cap might also make it harder for someone to acquire.

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How 'bout this? You guys are talking about 3rd liners.

Darroll Powe. originally played C w/Flyers when breaking in, if I'm remembering correctly. Mostly at LW for us. Offers decent amount of speed, not too much else. Not gonna lead the pack; not gonna kill ya with mistakes.

Taylor Pyatt. Also a one year deal, nothing beyond this season. Basic big body, experienced, tbh, more of a 4th than a third liner.

Take either, or both, NY will eat part of the cap and throw in a 5th.

I'm not sure if that's enough 3rd line for you.
Yeah, we have a guy like Hagelin who slums on the third line, as does our captain Callahan from time to time. So those guys are not really thirds.

But between these and others we may have a match. Somewhere.
Don't hesitate to fine tune this.

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Not really sure why teams would give up an asset for Postma when guys like Cundari, Kundratek, and Blum were all on waivers in the past few days.
Only do it for Rangers because of general shortage of RDs, and because our PP is so piss poor he would be a fit there even if we shelter his defensive minutes.

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Only do it for Rangers because of general shortage of RDs, and because our PP is so piss poor he would be a fit there even if we shelter his defensive minutes.
Why not claim Kundratek or Blum, then?

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Why not claim Kundratek or Blum, then?
I think we thought about Blum, don't remember if we got beat out or had other commitments or passed.

Kundratek was a Ranger, wanted to be traded. Some posters infer he is a head case. Has some tools, putting together = ?. Pass.

PP = great fit for PP only, everything thing else a gamble uphill, not likely to happen anytime soon. But a match w/NYR, strong def D, mostly lefty.

He is a specialist. sell him to me at a specialist price.

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I think we thought about Blum, don't remember if we got beat out or had other commitments or passed.
He was on waivers. Nobody claimed him, including the Rangers.

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Kundratek was a Ranger, wanted to be traded. Some posters infer he is a head case. Has some tools, putting together = ?. Pass.
Kundratek has done the exact role you're describing very well (3rd pairing PP specialist) in both Washington and Hershey since being traded. He requested to be traded so he could get a shot at the NHL, not because he was a head case. He was also on waviers, and nobody claimed him.

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PP = great fit for PP only, everything thing else a gamble uphill, not likely to happen anytime soon. But a match w/NYR, strong def D, mostly lefty.

He is a specialist. sell him to me at a specialist price.
That description also matches both Blum and Kundratek. 3rd pairing, RHD PP specialists. Both of those players were available for free. I don't see any reason why the Rangers management would pass on them and then spend assets to acquire Postma. Reasoning indicates that the Rangers are not interested in Postma.

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He was on waivers. Nobody claimed him, including the Rangers.


Kundratek has done the exact role you're describing very well (3rd pairing PP specialist) in both Washington and Hershey since being traded. He requested to be traded so he could get a shot at the NHL, not because he was a head case. He was also on waviers, and nobody claimed him.


That description also matches both Blum and Kundratek. 3rd pairing, RHD PP specialists. Both of those players were available for free. I don't see any reason why the Rangers management would pass on them and then spend assets to acquire Postma. Reasoning indicates that the Rangers are not interested in Postma.
I may be wrong but at this moment w/Stepan signing I believe Rangers are technically over cap. Will get under soon.

They are not going to add almost anybody unless they can almost simultaneously delete cap hit.

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