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09-26-2013, 02:02 PM
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With all RFAs signed, we can now speculate on next year's cap situation. Here's a quick mock-up I made on capgeek:

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This is assuming a $70 million cap. Either way, with the buyout of Richards and the cap going up there will be plenty of room to sign all the key free agents. I think I was being more than generous here with raises. Obviously I don't think they will be playing 3 rookies on the 4th line, but this is just to show that there is plenty of room to sign a few FA's if need be.
Yeah, this is why I'm not even worried about the cap next season even if Richards puts up 90 points this year and we decide not to be him out. We're still going to be fine.

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09-26-2013, 07:29 PM
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We don't pay Nash like he's a top 5 player. It only seems that way because his contract doesn't fluctuate any. We do pay him like a 1st line player, which he is.
His contract is back loaded. He gets paid more money every year. And yes Nash is paid like a top 5 player, which he is not

The cap hit is what matters and his cap hit is too much.

We aren't a budget team.

But at the end of the day it isn't a huge amount but still, in a year where the salary cap went down and we have a guy sitting out for a few hundred thousand dollars. You look up and down the roster thats one spot we could have used the savings


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09-26-2013, 07:38 PM
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His contract is back loaded. He gets paid more money every year. And yes Nash is paid like a top 5 player, which he is not !

The cap hit is what matters and his cap hit is too much.

We aren't a budget team.
Sorry, you're right. It is backloaded. He just happens to be getting paid his cap hit this season.

But... either way... you think $7.8m is top 5 player salary or cap hit? It really isn't.

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09-26-2013, 07:50 PM
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Don't really have the patience to read through the bickering and conjecture atm- can anyone tell me what Stepan's cap hit is this year?

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09-26-2013, 07:53 PM
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Don't really have the patience to read through the bickering and conjecture atm- can anyone tell me what Stepan's cap hit is this year?
Look at the thread title of the re-signing thread.

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09-28-2013, 07:15 AM
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Look at the thread title of the re-signing thread.
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09-28-2013, 07:18 AM
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Nash's cap hit is $7.8M. Corey Perry's new contract bears a cap hit $8.625M for 8 years.

Nash is not overpaid.

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09-28-2013, 08:35 AM
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Nash's cap hit is $7.8M. Corey Perry's new contract bears a cap hit $8.625M for 8 years.

Nash is not overpaid.
Nash is the 8th highest paid player in the league.

Just wondering not a big deal but do you believe he is the 8th best player in the league ?

For some reason when I see his cap hit I think it is a over payment . I don't believe he's that's good

And yes I know he won a gold medal in the Olympics

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09-28-2013, 08:40 AM
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Nash is the 8th highest paid player in the league.

Just wondering not a big deal but do you believe he is the 8th best player in the league ?
Waaaay oversimplification of a complex topic.

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09-28-2013, 08:51 AM
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If Nash was a UFA this July 5th, he'd get a more expensive contract than his current one. Ergo, not overpaid.

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09-29-2013, 10:54 AM
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Your 2013/2014 new york rangers (opening day lineup)

LGR

FORWARDS
Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Benoit Pouliot ($1.300m) / Derick Brassard ($3.200m) / Mats Zuccarello ($1.150m)
Taylor Pyatt ($1.550m) / J.T. Miller ($1.244m) / Jesper Fasth ($0.900m)
Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Dominic Moore ($1.000m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
Arron Asham ($1.000m)

DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Michael Del Zotto ($2.550m)
John Moore ($0.965m) / Anton Stralman ($1.700m)
Justin Falk ($0.975m)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($1.300m)

OTHER
Buried: Darroll Powe ($0.142m)

IR
Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)

LTIR
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m)
------

TOTALS
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000
CAP PAYROLL: $65,250,833
BONUSES: $650,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): -$300,833

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10-03-2013, 10:16 AM
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I took over the thread (sorry, BBK ) and added a full list of contracts, cap hits and yearly salaries to the first post. It's basically what you'd see on the team view at CapGeek.

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10-08-2013, 01:03 AM
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I took over the thread (sorry, BBK ) and added a full list of contracts, cap hits and yearly salaries to the first post. It's basically what you'd see on the team view at CapGeek.
Thanx

When Fast is sent down and Hagelin is back we will look like:


FORWARDS ($36.600.000)
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Benoit Pouliot ($1.300m) / Derick Brassard ($3.200m) / Mats Zuccarello ($1.150m)
Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
Taylor Pyatt ($1.550m) / Dominic Moore ($1.000m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
Arron Asham ($1.000m)

DEFENSEMEN ($18.190.000)
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Michael Del Zotto ($2.550m)
John Moore ($0.965m) / Anton Stralman ($1.700m)
Justin Falk ($0.975m)

GOALTENDERS ($8.175.000)
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($1.300m)

OTHER
Buried: Darroll Powe ($0.142m)

------

TOTALS
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000
CAP PAYROLL: $63,107,000
BONUSES: $125,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1.318,000

Plus a very nice group of fwds in Hartford

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10-26-2013, 10:55 AM
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Bright side is a lot of UFA

ASSUMNG SIGN CALLY THESE GUYS STAY NEXT YR
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)/ Derick Brassard ($3.200m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)

SEE YA, GET WHAT THEY CAN IN DEALS
Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Benoit Pouliot ($1.300m)
Taylor Pyatt ($1.550m) / Dominic Moore ($1.000m)


Brad Richards ($6.667m) - BOUGHT OUT REGARDLESS DUE TO CAP
Mats Zuccarello ($1.150m)- RFA BUT LIKELY A GONER

Atleast they can rebuild the lineup

Sign Hank. Talbot the backup

Reshape the D by dealing Girardi and trading DZ

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10-29-2013, 11:33 AM
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Anyone know why CapGeek is still listing Biron in buried contracts? I tried asking them about it subtly on Twitter and got no response.

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10-29-2013, 12:00 PM
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Anyone know why CapGeek is still listing Biron in buried contracts? I tried asking them about it subtly on Twitter and got no response.
Probably because we still own his rights, and he isn't in the AHL. He also may not have officially filed his papers yet.

If you look at the daily tracker, he is counted 14 days on the roster and 5 days as buried. That 5 days is probably the time between when he was sent down and when he decided to retire.

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11-27-2013, 10:52 AM
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http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/stor...nic-don-cherry

There's a better article in Sports Business Daily but I'm sure not many have a subscription to that.

The sporting news article believes the cap could increase $3 million based on the tv deal alone. So maybe it will increase a little more than expected.

The NHL will receive $350 million annually, to be divided up amongst the 30 teams. This was a huge deal for the NHL.

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http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/stor...nic-don-cherry

There's a better article in Sports Business Daily but I'm sure not many have a subscription to that.

The sporting news article believes the cap could increase $3 million based on the tv deal alone. So maybe it will increase a little more than expected.

The NHL will receive $350 million annually, to be divided up amongst the 30 teams. This was a huge deal for the NHL.
The TV deal wasn't a surprise. The new money comes into play for 15-16 cap. The NHL projected $1B increase in revenue in 3 years during the summer. The Rogers deal is worth $4.9B in US dollars. The cap is determined in US dollars. The first year is worth $300M. It escalates over the 12 years. Its $500M plus at the end. The NHL gets $150M as an upfront payment spread out over the first 2 years. $375M in the first year.

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Rogers will pay the NHL $300 million in the first year and will gradually increase to approximately mid-$500 million in the final year. The deal also includes an upfront payment of $150 million spread over the first two years of the contract.
http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-...al-with-rogers

The NHL told teams the cap for 14-15 could be $67M. It could be $70M depending upon which teams advance in the playoffs.

The Canadian teams will get a greater % than the US teams.

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Invasion fees are designed to compensate the Canadian teams for the local inventory lost to the national TV deals.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/i...and-trade-talk

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Just thought it was relevant to the conversation.

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11-27-2013, 12:16 PM
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It goes to show; like I say, that if you can lock up the guys you have grown to long-term contracts, do it.

There should never be any good free agents available if the cap continues to rise like this.

Henrik's 8 million will be a lot less painful in the 8th year of his contract, when the cap is 100 million dollars.

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with projections like that im not sure we buyout richards if he finishes the year with 60+ points.

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How great will McD's contract look if the cap is even at $90 million for the last year of it? He will account for 5% of the total cap...

Why the hell did we have a second lockout again?


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with projections like that im not sure we buyout richards if he finishes the year with 60+ points.
With those projections, the salary re-capture penalties will be so much less severe than originally thought that the chances of these players also being traded comes back into the realm of possibility.

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The way Brassard has been playing, NYR need to entertain the possibility of dealing him and keeping Richards.

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Well max salary is going to go up with the cap. And players will get their aavs off that new max salary.

So you are just going to see UFA deals go through the freakin roof.

But yes it would be wise to lock in what you can now...as long as you are confident in the projections.

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Well max salary is going to go up with the cap. And players will get their aavs off that new max salary.

So you are just going to see UFA deals go through the freakin roof.

But yes it would be wise to lock in what you can now...as long as you are confident in the projections.
Right the player price will rise accordingly, provided the amount of total talent supply in the league does not grow.

But you also have to consider that if the cap goes up, more talent from other leagues will be tempted to come over here... guys like Radlulov, ect.

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