My vote goes to Francis. He should go into the HOF as a Penguins player where he won his only 2 Stanley Cup Rings. Francis was consistent wherever he played and was a great person, because I knew him and his family personally.
Francis is a classact and should be a HOF player.
This is a really good question... personally I think Doug Gilmour was better. He had the defensive aspect of the game down pat as well as the offensive game. The year he got one of his highest point totals he also won the Selke trophy for best defensive forward, that shows what a great player he was. The only reason he didn't win the cup was because Gretzky high-sticked him and didn't get a penalty then scored the game winner. So the Leafs got screwed. Francis won the cup alongside maybe the greatest hockey player of all times, IMO better than Gretzy, Mario Lemieux.
Gilmour for a couple seasons(early 90s) would have been better, but basing it on a career i will go with Francis.
Originally Posted by MO!
The only reason he didn't win the cup was because Gretzky high-sticked him and didn't get a penalty then scored the game winner. So the Leafs got screwed. Francis won the cup alongside maybe the greatest hockey player of all times, IMO better than Gretzy, Mario Lemieux.
1. Although some leaf fans might not realize it he did have a career outside of Toronto and won a cup in 1989 with Calgary
2. Let's assume Gretzky got called for a penalty, toronto still would have to have scored a goal and beat Montreal in the finals. I think you're taking a big leap that Toronto would have won the cup if that call was made.
I'm choosing Gilmour for obvious bias reasons, but also because i loved the way he played the game. He played with such passion and engergy, not that Francis didn't, but its easier to see it in a smaller guy.
Like a lot of you have already mentioned, Gilmour had a better peak level than Francis, when he was one of the top offensive centermen while dominating defensively and leading the playoff charge for the Leafs, while Francis was the steady, consistent guy who did the same thing every year. Francis also played with considerably superior talent throughout the latter part of his career, so that must have helped.