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[TOR] Maple Leafs extend Phil Kessel (8 years, $8M AAV) [Mod Warning Post #737]

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10-01-2013, 11:21 AM
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Leafs didn't want to start negotiations for real with Kessel until they heard from the player that he wanted to stay in Toronto long term.

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Leafs GM Dave Nonis met with Kessel last week and the winger told him he wanted to commit long term. Once he said that, Nonis got to work





Absolutely beautiful. So good.



Last Season Scoring Leaders:

1. M.St.Louis (38): 48gms, 17gls, 60pts
2. S.Stamkos (23): 48gms, 29gls, 57pts
3. A.Ovechkin (28): 48gms, 32gls, 56pts
4. S.Crosby (26): 36gms, 15gls, 56pts
5. P.Kane (25): 47gms, 23gls, 55pts
6. E.Staal (29): 48gms, 18gls, 53pts
7. C.Kunitz (34): 48gms, 22gls, 52pts
8. P.Kessel (26): 48gms, 20gls, 52pts
9. T.Hall (22): 45gms, 16gls, 50pts
10. R.Getzlaf (28): 44gms, 15gls, 49pts


Last 2 Seasons Scoring Leaders:

1. S.Stamkos (23): 130gms, 89gls, 154pts
2. E.Malkin (27): 106gms, 59gls, 142pts
3. C.Giroux (25): 125gms, 41gls, 140pts
4. P.Kessel (26): 130gms, 57gls, 134pts
5. M.St.Louis (38): 125gms, 42gls, 134pts
6. J.Tavares (23): 130gms, 59gls, 128pts
7. H.Sedin (33): 130gms, 25gls, 126pts
8. E.Staal (29): 130gms, 42gls, 123pts
9. P.Kane (25): 129gms, 46gls, 121pts
10. A.Ovechkin (28): 126gms, 70gls, 121pts


Last 3 Seasons Scoring Leaders:

1. S.Stamkos (23): 212gms, 134gls, 245pts
2. M.St.Louis (38): 207gms, 73gls, 233pts
3. H.Sedin (33): 212gms, 44gls, 220pts
4. C.Giroux (25): 207gms, 66gls, 216pts
5. D.Sedin (33): 201gms, 83gls, 211pts
6. A.Ovechkin (28): 205gms, 102gls, 206pts
7. E.Staal (29): 211gms, 75gls, 199pts
8. P.Kessel (26): 212gms, 89gls, 198pts
9. H.Zetterberg (33): 208gms, 57gls, 197pts
10. J.Tavares (23): 209gms, 88gls, 195pts











Top Caphits 14-15

1. Ovechkin 9.6
2. Malkin 9.5
3. Crosby 8.7
4. Perry 8.6
5. Giroux 8.3
6. Getzlaf 8.3
7. Staal 8.3
8. Kessel 8.0
9. Weber 7.9* (10.4 AAV for first 10yrs of contract)
10. Nash 7.8
11. Suter 7.5* (9.4 AAV for first 10yrs of contract)
12. Parise 7.5* (9.4 AAV for first 10yrs of contract)

Kessel just squeaks into the top-10 next year as of right now, and only because of the cheater contracts to weber, suter, and parise.

Key UFA this offseason that will sign before Kessel's extension kicks in include:

Lundqvist
Gaborik
Thornton
Vanek
Sedin
Sedin
Phaneuf

and key UFA after next season include:

Toews
Kane
Spezza


So kessel won't even be top-10 for long.

He'll be way down the list by the end of his deal, when he's at the ripe old age of 34.

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10-01-2013, 11:21 AM
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Boom!!! Congrats Leafs fans....He is their star player and most offensive threat...Good to get this done now...

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10-01-2013, 11:21 AM
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Good deal. You don't players like Kessel walk.

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10-01-2013, 11:22 AM
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In my opinion it is 1.5mil overpayment by todays dollars. He is worth 6.5 mil for 35 goals a year.

If the cap goes up as it should, and Kessel reaches 40 goals at age 28 to 30 , then the Leafs got their value for him.
There are only 7 players in the league who have outpointed him over the past 3 seasons.

He basically accepted market value, which is exactly what he did on his previous contract (and exactly what I figured he'd do). I had him at $7.5 until some of this offseason's stupidity.

Bear in mind he's acheived that with Bozak as his centre.

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10-01-2013, 11:22 AM
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Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun
Leafs didn't want to start negotiations for real with Kessel until they heard from the player that he wanted to stay in Toronto long term.

Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun
Leafs GM Dave Nonis met with Kessel last week and the winger told him he wanted to commit long term. Once he said that, Nonis got to work

Absolutely beautiful. So good.

Last Season Scoring Leaders:

1. M.St.Louis (38): 48gms, 17gls, 60pts
2. S.Stamkos (23): 48gms, 29gls, 57pts
3. A.Ovechkin (28): 48gms, 32gls, 56pts
4. S.Crosby (26): 36gms, 15gls, 56pts
5. P.Kane (25): 47gms, 23gls, 55pts
6. E.Staal (29): 48gms, 18gls, 53pts
7. C.Kunitz (34): 48gms, 22gls, 52pts
8. P.Kessel (26): 48gms, 20gls, 52pts
9. T.Hall (22): 45gms, 16gls, 50pts
10. R.Getzlaf (28): 44gms, 15gls, 49pts


Last 2 Seasons Scoring Leaders:

1. S.Stamkos (23): 130gms, 89gls, 154pts
2. E.Malkin (27): 106gms, 59gls, 142pts
3. C.Giroux (25): 125gms, 41gls, 140pts
4. P.Kessel (26): 130gms, 57gls, 134pts
5. M.St.Louis (38): 125gms, 42gls, 134pts
6. J.Tavares (23): 130gms, 59gls, 128pts
7. H.Sedin (33): 130gms, 25gls, 126pts
8. E.Staal (29): 130gms, 42gls, 123pts
9. P.Kane (25): 129gms, 46gls, 121pts
10. A.Ovechkin (28): 126gms, 70gls, 121pts


Last 3 Seasons Scoring Leaders:

1. S.Stamkos (23): 212gms, 134gls, 245pts
2. M.St.Louis (38): 207gms, 73gls, 233pts
3. H.Sedin (33): 212gms, 44gls, 220pts
4. C.Giroux (25): 207gms, 66gls, 216pts
5. D.Sedin (33): 201gms, 83gls, 211pts
6. A.Ovechkin (28): 205gms, 102gls, 206pts
7. E.Staal (29): 211gms, 75gls, 199pts
8. P.Kessel (26): 212gms, 89gls, 198pts
9. H.Zetterberg (33): 208gms, 57gls, 197pts
10. J.Tavares (23): 209gms, 88gls, 195pts



Top Caphits 14-15

1. Ovechkin 9.6
2. Malkin 9.5
3. Crosby 8.7
4. Perry 8.6
5. Giroux 8.3
6. Getzlaf 8.3
7. Staal 8.3
8. Kessel 8.0
9. Weber 7.9* (10.4 AAV for first 10yrs of contract)
10. Nash 7.8
11. Suter 7.5* (9.4 AAV for first 10yrs of contract)
12. Parise 7.5* (9.4 AAV for first 10yrs of contract)

Kessel just squeaks into the top-10 next year as of right now, and only because of the cheater contracts to weber, suter, and parise.

Key UFA this offseason that will sign before Kessel's extension kicks in include:

Lundqvist
Gaborik
Thornton
Vanek
Sedin
Sedin
Phaneuf

and key UFA after next season include:

Toews
Kane
Spezza


So kessel won't even be top-10 for long.

He'll be way down the list by the end of his deal, when he's at the ripe old age of 34.
Good post Zeke! Hes clearly worth his contract

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10-01-2013, 11:23 AM
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OK i'll bite, can you name some comparable pending UFA's who signed for 6m? ...thought so.
Key words here are UFA.
Perfect deal for Kessel, I was actually expecting 100k more just to do that jersey number thing top players go for (and Bozak)

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Good signing now. Are they going to regret this in 4-5 years is my main question.
no chance

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What has he done to deserve 8 million? Seems way too much to me.
5 straight seasons of 30+ goals at 25 years old, if that's not good enough for you then I don't know what is.

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I think I'm going to need some ice cream to go with the incredible amount of jelly in this thread

great player, superb scorer and playmaker. You will not find any unhappy Leafs fans today.

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He's not worth it overall, but it is market value. He finally did look a little dominant at times in the playoffs too.

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99% of the time when any player signs a contract... 99% of the fan base is going to hope its a good contract and those of us here are going to try to support 'our team.'

its very very very uncommon to see fan base of any team be against the signing their team makes at the moment its signed

but of course we all know that soon many deals are considered 'bad deals' and the fan base is begging someone to take the mistake off their hands

not to pile on toronto... but john michael liles was signed and at the time i said he is a waiver wire type player... most hometown fans ripped me a new one

i am probably guilty of over valuing my bruins... im not perfect... but i will say im sure as hell glad it wasnt my bruins on the hook to kessel now for 8 mill over the next 8 years...

good luck with that

No contract is without risk. Hell if Bergeron becomes even more injury prone and misses 30%-50% of a seasons every year, it's a bad deal. But GM's take that risks when they sign players long-term deals; whether that's Bergeron, Kessel, or Liles.


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There's better 40 goal guys that will sign better or cheaper. Don't have a choice tho

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Seems like Market value......


I wonder how the negotiations went? got done pretty quick so I assume Nonis didn't put up much of a fight....

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Leafs GM Dave Nonis met with Kessel last week and the winger told him he wanted to commit long term. Once he said that, Nonis got to work
"Pay me."

"Okay."


... And the rest is history.

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There's better 40 goal guys that will sign better or cheaper. Don't have a choice tho
good job there are so many stamkos's and ovechkin's out there for everybody to have them at cheap price eh?

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Seems like Market value......


I wonder how the negotiations went? got done pretty quick so I assume Nonis didn't put up much of a fight....
Basically Nonis said once they determined if he actually wanted to stay the deal would be done quickly.

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Why wouldn't Kessel want to stay in Toronto? It's the hockey capital of the world. Outside of my own hometown I can't think of a place I would rather want to play.

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Key words here are UFA.
Perfect deal for Kessel, I was actually expecting 100k more just to do that jersey number thing top players go for (and Bozak)
please don't say that.....Tavares 9.1


When Tavares deal is done 10 mil will seem like a good deal for star players imo...

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Wow, overpaid by like 2M per year.
Kessel = Pavelski?

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There's better 40 goal guys that will sign better or cheaper. Don't have a choice tho
Name them and give us their ages.

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On pace for 35 goals and 89 points last year. He's transformed himself from a goal scoring forward (more goals than assists or equal his first 4 seasons) to a very dynamic offensive weapon. He's one of those few players who makes everybody he plays with better.

Lupul before he played with Kessel: around a 0.60ppg player.
Lupul while playing with Kessel: over PPG

JVR before playing with Kessel: career high GPG was 0.28GPG
JVR while playing with Kessel: 0.38GPG

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What has he done to deserve 8 million? Seems way too much to me.
Been one of 2 guys to finish top 10 in scoring 2 stright years

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Such as...

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Can't be upset about locking up a top offensive player long term. Cap is what it is.

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