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10-02-2013, 11:00 AM
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Last night proved how illusory the whole fighting/toughness/size issue was. The Habs won all the fights. Fat lot of good it did. It showed precisely why they _DON'T_ need an enforcer. They need to focus on playing better hockey. They got sidetracked by getting pounded in the fighting matches last year. No need to go the other way and get sidetracked by administering the poundings this year. They have other things they need to work on right now.

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They can always bring up Tarnasky if they need some toughness until they know what's happening with Parros.

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10-02-2013, 11:03 AM
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Konopka is reportedly being shopped by the Wild. He can atleast win faceoffs while getting punched in the face a lot.

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10-02-2013, 11:08 AM
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Last night proved how illusory the whole fighting/toughness/size issue was. The Habs won all the fights. Fat lot of good it did. It showed precisely why they _DON'T_ need an enforcer. They need to focus on playing better hockey. They got sidetracked by getting pounded in the fighting matches last year. No need to go the other way and get sidetracked by administering the poundings this year. They have other things they need to work on right now.
you gotta admit, though - before Parros fell; all those fights felt good. especially seeing Tinordi give Ashton a beating.

it's a good step in the right direction. that top 6 needs to score, though. missed way too many chances. sigh.

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10-02-2013, 11:11 AM
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Georges Parros is injured and Habs need to add some heavyweight. I have some names come to my mind:

Mike Rupp
Patrick Bordeleau
Mike Brown
John Scott
B.J. Crombeen
Ryan Reaves
Cam Janssen
Darcy Hordichuk an Pierre- Luc Leblond

What is the value for one of those beast? I'm ready to give a similar return like Floride had Big Parros maybe more
Crombeen, brown... Lool.

Mtl has a light schedule early on, don't face the leafs again until late Nov, Bruins in Dec, Parros wasn't going to play most nights, a line of Moen Prust White can hold their own vs none heavyweights.

If Parros is out not too long, Habs don't need anything, but if these injury is long term, ya, gotta get someone.

The Atlantic is just built that way, you need a heavyweight, and if you get a good one, it rubs off, Parras always edged out Orr in both fights, more so the first fight, and notice the Habs playing with more of an edge, Moen edged out Fraser, and Tinordi Cleaned up Ashton.

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10-02-2013, 11:27 AM
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Last night proved how illusory the whole fighting/toughness/size issue was. The Habs won all the fights. Fat lot of good it did. It showed precisely why they _DON'T_ need an enforcer. They need to focus on playing better hockey. They got sidetracked by getting pounded in the fighting matches last year. No need to go the other way and get sidetracked by administering the poundings this year. They have other things they need to work on right now.
I think it's more about the willingness to fight than actually win the fights. The Habs had success last year as team and they didn't win most of their fights, but they fought a lot. I think the addition of Parros is just because of how the Atlantic is built, you saw last year Prust go up with guys way over his weight case, there was Gorges fighting a guy like Mclaren, etc

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lol. did you even watch the game. the refs handed the game to the Leafs.


This is said by Habs fans after EVERY loss, it's amazing.

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Aaron Asham, yours for the low, low price of future considerations
We have a prospect LW of basic ability who fights, Mashinter, yours for a 4th, maybe we add a 5th and you make it a 3rd. Something like 600/650k.

If you want an established enforcer, Asham I think this last year at 1m, we'll add a 6th, you make it a 4th.

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lol. did you even watch the game. the refs handed the game to the Leafs.
Really? Toronto scored more on Montreal's power play than the Habs did. Did the refs hand that to the Leafs too?

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10-02-2013, 11:36 AM
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Last night proved how illusory the whole fighting/toughness/size issue was. The Habs won all the fights. Fat lot of good it did. It showed precisely why they _DON'T_ need an enforcer. They need to focus on playing better hockey. They got sidetracked by getting pounded in the fighting matches last year. No need to go the other way and get sidetracked by administering the poundings this year. They have other things they need to work on right now.


You think the habs won all the fights come on get serious

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10-02-2013, 11:39 AM
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Really? Toronto scored more on Montreal's power play than the Habs did. Did the refs hand that to the Leafs too?
so, you didn't watch the game, then.

good to know.

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You think the habs won all the fights come on get serious
they did. go read the GDT on the NHL section. the only ones saying the fights were a wash ( except for the Tinordi fight ) were Leafs fans. everyone else saw the Habs win those fights.

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Honestly, let's take a look at why the Habs lost that game last night.

Are they tougher this year because they added Parros? That's debatable.

Did they play Leafs hockey last night and spend more time in the box instead of playing Canadiens hockey? Yes, and that's why they lost. Montreal needs to play up-tempo hockey and cash in on their PP's as much as possible in order to be successful. When they don't do that, they lose.

They don't need another enforcer.
You know who disagrees with you ? The GM and anyone with a memory long enough to remember the ottawa fiasco last year. Are habs fans amnesiacs ? Every year we get ragdolled in the playoffs and lets not forget we have one of if not the SMALLEST top 9's in the league and our jam on the back end begins and ends with a rookie.

To answer the OP, we dont need another heavy right now. We can go with the pool of middle weights while parros is on the mend. I'll wait till I hear about Parros' recovery estimates before going swimming in the enforecer pool. I want parros back, even if we have to wait.

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This is said by Habs fans after EVERY loss, it's amazing.
it is said by every fanbase after their team loses. dont kid yourself into thinking that Hab fans are alone in this.


I watched the game and all the penalties The Habs got were in fact penalties. IMO The Leafs got away with a few especially late in the 3rd.

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10-02-2013, 11:47 AM
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John Erskine. He can actually play hockey in addition to being a heavyweight.

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10-02-2013, 11:48 AM
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They can always bring up Tarnasky if they need some toughness until they know what's happening with Parros.
tarnasky is khl tough in the way you get when you take on unwilling guys outside your weight class. Pass.

Tarnasky isn't a replacement for Parros, I dont think he'd be a replacement for ryan white.

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No need for a replacement now anyways, They will play White until Parros is back....

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10-02-2013, 11:52 AM
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John Erskine. He can actually play hockey in addition to being a heavyweight.
like erskine, the question is what would it cost ? The answer, probably too much. A big guy who plays about 20 min on the back end is not going to be available on the waiver wire. Plus we need a guy who can protect the small forwards.

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10-02-2013, 11:52 AM
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Nick Tarnasky is a willing customer. He is not the greatest at fighting, but he gets the job done.

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The Habs outshot the Leafs 31-20 at EV. The problem was the minor penalties, not the majors.
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The Leafs had more PP time to get shots in.

If doesn't matter when the shots or goals happen, they all count for the same. Learnt o stay out of the box and this doesn't happen.
So basically... you agree.

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they did. go read the GDT on the NHL section. the only ones saying the fights were a wash ( except for the Tinordi fight ) were Leafs fans. everyone else saw the Habs win those fights.
So because the majority think we lost all 5 fights that means we did? this isn't boxint or MMA majority decisions don't automatically mean you won the fights here.

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So because the majority think we lost all 5 fights that means we did? this isn't boxint or MMA majority decisions don't automatically mean you won the fights here.
when the only ones that disagree are Leafs fans... yeah, they won the fights. it was obvious to everyone else.

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In what world is Crombeen a heavyweight? He's a punching bag, but a good guy to have on a grinding line.

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so, you didn't watch the game, then.

good to know.
I did watch the game - without homer goggles.

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