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October 2, 2013| vs. Toronto. Johnny B. GOODe; BAD to the Bone; UGLY Truth

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10-02-2013, 10:50 PM
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Vinny was a beast.

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Oh well. It's a long season. Still plenty of time to turn things around, although I'm not very optimistic about that. Hopefully Lavy will get canned if things don't turn around soon.

Good:
1. Mason looked good. No Bryz-like goals.
2. Vinny was the best forward on the ice.
3. I thought Giroux had a good game. Probably would've put up points if Schenn wasn't on his line.

Bad:
1. Couturier. He had a bad game. Hope he can bounce back.
2. PP. Moved the puck well, just couldn't capitalize.
3. Mez. Hopefully it's just rust.
4. Not playing Laughton is a bit of a head-scratcher...hope he's out there on Sunday. Same with Gus.

Ugly:
1. Even strength is still looked terrible.
2. The PP entry needs to change. Dancing at the blue line isn't going to work. Dump and chase. Keep it simple.
3. Talbot and his dip**** turnover that led to the Leafs first goal. He needs to wake the **** up.

I'm not in panic mode yet, but I'm concerned. Like I said there's still plenty of time to turn things around.

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Leafs fan here that came in peace.

I thought Flyers played a meh game; Toronto was horrid to start.

Vinny will fit in very well in Philly -- he wasn't flying, but his creativity and puck handling skills are still very slick. The two other Flyers players that were more noticeable than others were Giroux and Simmonds for me.

I also want to comment on Orr. I read through the game board you guys have up, and I thought you guys might have missed something. Orr's crosscheck was a little high, but he was just trying to defend Fraser. Rosehill boarded, and Fraser's head flew into the boards, and he was completely out for the rest of the game (hopefully not a concussion..), Leafs were playing with 4-5D for the whole third period, I believe. so rewatch that? :/

Anyways, good game!

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Good - Vinny , Streit Giroux Laughton gaining valuable experience in press box
Bad - PP, Mezz
Ugly - Rosehill, Couts Lavy not adjusting the PP entry. Jake with Talbot , Simmonds, Jake on 3rd line

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10-02-2013, 10:52 PM
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Giroux & Hartnell were some of the only players that played shift to shift tonight IMO.

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10-02-2013, 10:53 PM
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Good - Vinny , Streit Giroux Laughton gaining valuable experience in press box
Bad - PP, Mezz
Ugly - Rosehill, Couts Lavy not adjusting the PP entry. Jake with Talbot , Simmonds, Jake on 3rd line
I'm surprised more people aren't pissed about that.

Not only did we play a useless goon who took a stupid penalty and played barely any minutes over him, but he's our best prospect by a decent margin and one of our few legitimate 1st round prospects in the system. Considering how horrible our prospects are, you'd think more people would be up-in-arms about it on here.

I mean, even if Laughton was playing on the 4th line instead of Rosehill that would still seem like a waste of development time and methodology versus getting top minutes in the minor leagues.

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Voracek was invisible when not forcing everything on the PP tonight.

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rosehill play a great game he try to fight orr 3 time
i think rinaldo-hall-rosehill is the best 4line in nhl
Who cares if he tried to fight Orr 3 times? Unless that puts 3 goals on the board it's pointless.

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Not having Giroux and Voracek together was really stupid but unsurprising. He did put them together when there was 5 minutes left on the clock... They were producing at more than a point per game clip at the end of last season, it just makes no sense any way you look at it. Spread the offence you say? Then tonight happens, Giroux and Voracek created scoring chances and no one to finish them. Theres a reason teams have a "1st" line, "2nd" line... We clearly dont have the personnel to have 3 scoring lines, not with Talbot there. 3rd line should of had schenn on it and used as a shutdown.

Im no NHL coach though.

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Based on the GDT, most of you are more down on our performance than I.

Our 5-on-5 couldn't convert but looked good. Power play generated a ton of chances but Bernier was pretty good himself.

I thought it was a generally well-played game. And I can't extrapolate much from it. Maybe it generally confirmed how "average" this team is.

Nothing particularly good or bad to take from it. Yet, some of you seem ready to prepare your own noose.

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Voracek was invisible when not forcing everything on the PP tonight.
Are you serious? He was playing with Couturier and Talbot, the **** do you want him do to do?

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I'm surprised more people aren't pissed about that.

Not only did we play a useless goon who took a stupid penalty and played barely any minutes over him, but he's our best prospect by a decent margin and one of our few legitimate 1st round prospects in the system. Considering how horrible our prospects are, you'd think more people would be up-in-arms about it on here.

I mean, even if Laughton was playing on the 4th line instead of Rosehill that would still seem like a waste of development time and methodology versus getting top minutes in the minor leagues.
I have said he should be in JR and be on Team Canada. That being said, I could be ok with him pk ing and playing 8-10 mins a night with hall and Rinaldo . But to waste in the press box while Rosehill plays and Talbot plays third line is ****ing moronic.

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Not having Giroux and Voracek together was really stupid but unsurprising. He did put them together when there was 5 minutes left on the clock... They were producing at more than a point per game clip at the end of last season, it just makes no sense any way you look at it. Spread the offence you say? Then tonight happens, Giroux and Voracek created scoring chances and no one to finish them. Theres a reason teams have a "1st" line, "2nd" line... We clearly dont have the personnel to have 3 scoring lines, not with Talbot there. 3rd line should of had schenn on it and used as a shutdown.

Im no NHL coach though.

Rant#1 over.

he's hurt. his minutes were limited

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Voracek was invisible when not forcing everything on the PP tonight.
That happens when you're coming off injury (albeit a slight one) and playing with Sean "still waiting on that offensive game" Couturier and Max "I just freaking suck and have a bad contract 4th liner" Talbot.

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Not having Giroux and Voracek together was really stupid but unsurprising. He did put them together when there was 5 minutes left on the clock... They were producing at more than a point per game clip at the end of last season, it just makes no sense any way you look at it. Spread the offence you say? Then tonight happens, Giroux and Voracek created scoring chances and no one to finish them. Theres a reason teams have a "1st" line, "2nd" line... We clearly dont have the personnel to have 3 scoring lines, not with Talbot there. 3rd line should of had schenn on it and used as a shutdown.

Im no NHL coach though.

Rant#1 over.
I like the idea of splitting the two assuming they're both firing at all cylinders.

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I really hope Rosehill and Mez are out next game.

Mez is useless. He can't do a single thing but shoot the puck

Slot Laughton in on the third line and let Talbot rot on the 4th line where he belongs

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Are you serious? He was playing with Couturier and Talbot, the **** do you want him do to do?
Not on the PP, he was forcing everything out there.

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Lucky you haven't seen a flyers game since before the Devils series 2 years ago.
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Based on the GDT, most of you are more down on our performance than I.

Our 5-on-5 couldn't convert but looked good. Power play generated a ton of chances but Bernier was pretty good himself.

I thought it was a generally well-played game. And I can't extrapolate much from it. Maybe it generally confirmed how "average" this team is.

Nothing particularly good or bad to take from it. Yet, some of you seem ready to prepare your own noose.
If you were paying attention you'd know it's more like we're down on our last 50+ performances (at the least) then just tonight.

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Leafs fan here that came in peace.

I thought Flyers played a meh game; Toronto was horrid to start.

Vinny will fit in very well in Philly -- he wasn't flying, but his creativity and puck handling skills are still very slick. The two other Flyers players that were more noticeable than others were Giroux and Simmonds for me.

I also want to comment on Orr. I read through the game board you guys have up, and I thought you guys might have missed something. Orr's crosscheck was a little high, but he was just trying to defend Fraser. Rosehill boarded, and Fraser's head flew into the boards, and he was completely out for the rest of the game (hopefully not a concussion..), Leafs were playing with 4-5D for the whole third period, I believe. so rewatch that? :/

Anyways, good game!
Frasers head din not fly into the boards.


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That happens when you're coming off injury (albeit a slight one) and playing with Sean "still waiting on that offensive game" Couturier and Max "I just freaking suck and have a bad contract 4th liner" Talbot.
I'm not even talking ES, I didnt even notice him there but he was noticeably terrible on the PP hurt or not.

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I really hope Rosehill and Mez are out next game.

Mez is useless. He can't do a single thing but shoot the puck

Slot Laughton in on the third line and let Talbot rot on the 4th line where he belongs
I agree with this.

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What?
If you don't understand what he means by that, it's probably better that you read and listen then comment and enforce your own opinion.

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Who cares if he tried to fight Orr 3 times? Unless that puts 3 goals on the board it's pointless.
overall rinaldo and rosehill play better that talbot

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I'm not even talking ES, I didnt even notice him there but he was noticeably terrible on the PP hurt or not.
Our whole team sucked on the PP tonight as far as getting it done. If anything I'm more mad at Giroux considering he's our best offensive talent, best PP guy, played almost 10 minutes of PP time, over 25 minutes of overall time, and put up 0 points.

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The good: Vinny, Roo
The bad: 1 goal on all those PPs
The ugly: Living in Toronto and having my blackberry go off repeatedly by my annoying friends/relatives who are parking their chairs on Yonge Street, waiting for the parade to start

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