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10-03-2013, 11:17 AM
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Buffalo & Colorado

If Buffalo goes into rebuiling mode, wondering how close of value is this?

Paul Stastny
Stefan Elliott or Ryan Wilson (Take your pick Sabre fans)
2nd round 2014

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Christian Ehrhoff
Justin Kea

????????

Why Avs do this: Get a top 4 defenseman and a bottom 6 defensive player for the future with Heard.

Why Buffalo does this: Gets a top 2 line centre and a OFD with good potential (who hasn't found his game just yet) or a tough two-way defenseman (big hits and has some scoring touch) who has had bad luck with injuries. Stastny could become a solid leader on a young Sabres team and if they haven't traded Vanek, Sabres fans get that centre they always wanted.

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10-03-2013, 11:30 AM
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If Buffalo goes into rebuiling mode, wondering how close of value is this?

Paul Stastny
Stefan Elliott or Ryan Wilson (Take your pick Sabre fans)
2nd round 2014

for

Christian Ehrhoff
Justin Kea

????????

Why Avs do this: Get a top 4 defenseman and a bottom 6 defensive player for the future with Heard.

Why Buffalo does this: Gets a top 2 line centre and a OFD with good potential (who hasn't found his game just yet) or a tough two-way defenseman (big hits and has some scoring touch) who has had bad luck with injuries. Stastny could become a solid leader on a young Sabres team and if they haven't traded Vanek, Sabres fans get that centre they always wanted.
No thanks. Would much rather just keep Ehrhoff. Stastny for one year doesn't interest me all that much and we have plenty of good young defenseman in the pipeline. Also why does a team deal for a ufa to be when they are rebuilding? Doesn't make sense for the sabres.


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10-03-2013, 11:34 AM
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No from both teams. I don't get why so many proposal come up the day or two after first games of the season. Who knows what's gonna happen. It's not even fair to evaluate trade proposals for another month.

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10-03-2013, 11:37 AM
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no. stop. ehrhoff is not available

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No thanks. Would much rather just keep Ehrhoff. Stastny for one year doesn't interest me all that much and we have plenty of good young defenseman in the pipeline. Also why does a team deal for a ufa to be when they are rebuilding? Doesn't make sense for the sabres.
How is it value wise, if Stastny has a deal in place for Buffalo?

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No from both teams. I don't get why so many proposal come up the day or two after first games of the season. Who knows what's gonna happen. It's not even fair to evaluate trade proposals for another month.
Because Ehrhoff simply makes our team better.

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How can I stop? This is my first thread.

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So Buffalo is in rebuilding mode and this is why they trade for an older center who is UFA at the end of the year? And they give up a draft pick.

Explain the logic behind this to me for Buffalo

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How is it value wise, if Stastny has a deal in place for Buffalo?


Because Ehrhoff simply makes our team better.
So they help their rebuild by playing an older player who won't be apart of their core when they become competitive again, over one of their younger centers (Hodgson, Grigorenko) who will be in fact part of their team when they become competitive again? Think that one through.


And I think the whole proposal was designed to make your team better (i.e. dumping off expensive contracts in an area where you have depth for a good contract where you have very little depth)

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Easy no from Buffalo. We're not giving up years of team control/our best defender and a solid checking line prospect for a center that has absolutely no long term value (and would leave at the end of the year anyway, while taking ice time away from Hodgson/Grigs/Larsson in the mean time), a 2nd (we already have PLENTY), and a D prospect we simply don't have any need for with an already loaded pool.

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So they help their rebuild by playing an older player who won't be apart of their core when they become competitive again, over one of their younger centers (Hodgson, Grigorenko) who will be in fact part of their team when they become competitive again? Think that one through.


And I think the whole proposal was designed to make your team better (i.e. dumping off expensive contracts in an area where you have depth for a good contract where you have very little depth)
I tried to make the proposal as fair as possible with, but I can give you about 100 threads of Stastny to Buffalo topics if you want?! Based on this I thought Buffalo fans still had interest in the top 2 line centre.

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I tried to make the proposal as fair as possible with, but I can give you about 100 threads of Stastny to Buffalo topics if you want?! Based on this I thought Buffalo fans still had interest in the top 2 line centre.
I don't think you'll find many Buf fans who feel a pressing need to replace Derek Roy.

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10-03-2013, 12:25 PM
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I tried to make the proposal as fair as possible with, but I can give you about 100 threads of Stastny to Buffalo topics if you want?! Based on this I thought Buffalo fans still had interest in the top 2 line centre.
If Stastny had an extension in place the value would probably be there. As it stands now the value isn't. If Buffalo were to move Ehrhoff I would expect a winger of some kind coming back. Either a good young top 6 guy or a prospect with top 6 potential. I don't think Colorado has the assets we'd require in return (at least not that they'd be willing to move).

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If Buffalo goes into rebuiling mode, wondering how close of value is this?

Paul Stastny
Stefan Elliott or Ryan Wilson (Take your pick Sabre fans)
2nd round 2014

for

Christian Ehrhoff
Justin Kea

????????

Why Avs do this: Get a top 4 defenseman and a bottom 6 defensive player for the future with Heard.

Why Buffalo does this: Gets a top 2 line centre and a OFD with good potential (who hasn't found his game just yet) or a tough two-way defenseman (big hits and has some scoring touch) who has had bad luck with injuries. Stastny could become a solid leader on a young Sabres team and if they haven't traded Vanek, Sabres fans get that centre they always wanted.
If the Sabres are rebuilding, why are they trading away Ehrhoff for a guy in Stastny who's a UFA next summer?

Colorado is unlikely to be willing to give up the good young player(s) that Regier would want for Ehrhoff.

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If Buffalo goes into rebuiling mode, wondering how close of value is this?

Paul Stastny
Stefan Elliott or Ryan Wilson (Take your pick Sabre fans)
2nd round 2014

for

Christian Ehrhoff
Justin Kea

????????

Why Avs do this: Get a top 4 defenseman and a bottom 6 defensive player for the future with Heard.

Why Buffalo does this: Gets a top 2 line centre and a OFD with good potential (who hasn't found his game just yet) or a tough two-way defenseman (big hits and has some scoring touch) who has had bad luck with injuries. Stastny could become a solid leader on a young Sabres team and if they haven't traded Vanek, Sabres fans get that centre they always wanted.
Buffalo doesn't need Stastny and they don't need to deal Ehrhoff from an already young defense. Regier would want years of control and youth... something I can't see Avs fans as thrilled with giving up.

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If you watched last night's game on NBC Sports you would have seen that Buffalo has already transitioned to their rebuild, and you know what, the kids looked pretty good!

The only negative from the rebuild is that Myers looks like he has little confidence, which is a big problem when this is the first game of the year.

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If Colorado offered Duchene and a 2nd for Hodgson and Weber, how many Sabre fans would be for it and against it? just curious

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If Colorado offered Duchene and a 2nd for Hodgson and Weber, how many Sabre fans would be for it and against it? just curious
Duchene is a far better player...

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If Colorado offered Duchene and a 2nd for Hodgson and Weber, how many Sabre fans would be for it and against it? just curious
why does it matter? Avs wouldnt move Duchene for the package of Hodgson and Weber alone.

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If Colorado offered Duchene and a 2nd for Hodgson and Weber, how many Sabre fans would be for it and against it? just curious
I would assume every sabre fan would love it and every Avs fan would loathe it. Duchene won't be moved he's part of their young core moving forward.

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How is it value wise, if Stastny has a deal in place for Buffalo?


Because Ehrhoff simply makes our team better.


How can I stop? This is my first thread.
Why exactly does Buffalo make this deal again????

They are drading Ehrhoff for a UFA and a meh dime a dozen Dman.

At least look at Buffalo and see what their needs are.

As of now Buffalo has 7 Dmen who are 23 or younger. If they trade ehrhoff they would be looking to get a position that they need---whcih is winger.

If Buffalo was to shop Ehrhoff they would get alot more than what you offered.

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If Colorado offered Duchene and a 2nd for Hodgson and Weber, how many Sabre fans would be for it and against it? just curious
Sabre fans would love it. Duchene is awesome and can impact the game in a lot more ways than Hodgson can. And this is coming from a Hodgson fan.

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Sabre fans would love it. Duchene is awesome and can impact the game in a lot more ways than Hodgson can. And this is coming from a Hodgson fan.
Duchene would only be moved for a top pairing young defenseman such as OEL.

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If Colorado offered Duchene and a 2nd for Hodgson and Weber, how many Sabre fans would be for it and against it? just curious
Buffalo would take that and run like the ****ing wind.

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If Colorado offered Duchene and a 2nd for Hodgson and Weber, how many Sabre fans would be for it and against it? just curious
Sabres fans would take it and run even without that 2nd.

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Duchene would only be moved for a top pairing young defenseman such as OEL.
I wouldn't trade Duchene for OEL, just saying.

We can get Dmen other ways.

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I wouldn't trade Duchene for OEL, just saying.

We can get Dmen other ways.

I should have added if at all.

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