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[MIN] Wild sign Jason Pominville to contract extension (5 years, $5.6M AAV)

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10-03-2013, 12:21 PM
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That's fine for next year, but in 3-4 years when Brodin/Granlund/Nino/Coyle are on or looking for their 2nd contracts, I'd rather not dump guys in their mid-20's because we have too many guys in their 30's making a lot of money. We are right on the edge of my comfort level right now, adding Vanek to that pushes it over the edge.
We've got zero idea where the cap will be in 3-4 years to worry to much about it. Expansion, Outdoor games, Canadian TV contract, general inflation. We could easily be looking at 90 Million caps.

The ones that are worth it will get paid, the ones that aren't will get traded. Fletcher has been setting us up for a run, and his drafting strategy targeting long term college prospects shows he know he is going to be able to keep all the kids. Thats life.

I'd take 3 or 4 years of legitimate Stanley Cup Contender status over worrying about whats going to happen with the kids in 4 years.

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10-03-2013, 12:22 PM
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He's getting up there in age, but the contract is a good compromise for both sides.
He's 30. Not exactly a grey beard. I do agree on the fairness for everyone part though. Extension expiring at 36 is perfect.

Very happy with the cost and terms of the contract. $5.6M is a good deal for a guy that can easily put up 30 goals. We finally have a bonafide top line longterm. Glad this will not be a topic of discussion/distraction for the season.

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10-03-2013, 12:25 PM
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We've got zero idea where the cap will be in 3-4 years to worry to much about it. Expansion, Outdoor games, Canadian TV contract, general inflation. We could easily be looking at 90 Million caps.

The ones that are worth it will get paid, the ones that aren't will get traded. Fletcher has been setting us up for a run, and his drafting strategy targeting long term college prospects shows he know he is going to be able to keep all the kids. Thats life.

I'd take 3 or 4 years of legitimate Stanley Cup Contender status over worrying about whats going to happen with the kids in 4 years.
we seem to agree quite a bit. you seem like great fella.

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10-03-2013, 12:27 PM
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We've got zero idea where the cap will be in 3-4 years to worry to much about it. Expansion, Outdoor games, Canadian TV contract, general inflation. We could easily be looking at 90 Million caps.

The ones that are worth it will get paid, the ones that aren't will get traded. Fletcher has been setting us up for a run, and his drafting strategy targeting long term college prospects shows he know he is going to be able to keep all the kids. Thats life.

I'd take 3 or 4 years of legitimate Stanley Cup Contender status over worrying about whats going to happen with the kids in 4 years.
That's not an excuse to spend recklessly. Still, with where our young talent is positioned (mostly forwards), if we are going to spend $6m+ on another player, I'd rather we bolster the blueline.

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Meh.... never really been a fan of Pominville.. I just think it's too much for him. I guess I will see how this plays out.

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That's not an excuse to spend recklessly. Still, with where our young talent is positioned (mostly forwards), if we are going to spend $6m+ on another player, I'd rather we bolster the blueline.
but where are you getting that kinda defenceman. it's not like they hit UFA status everyday and if you get an UFA d you most likely have to overpay and if you are going to trade for one you lose your youngsters anyway.

but if player of Vaneks caliber wants to come to play for Minny I would sign him for sure and never look back. It is always possibility that not a single one of Granlund, Coyle, Nino or Zucker ever becomes a legit top6 player.

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He's 30. Not exactly a grey beard. I do agree on the fairness for everyone part though. Extension expiring at 36 is perfect.

Very happy with the cost and terms of the contract. $5.6M is a good deal for a guy that can easily put up 30 goals. We finally have a bonafide top line longterm. Glad this will not be a topic of discussion/distraction for the season.
Easily? It's possible.. but, I wouldn't say it's easy for Pominville.

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That's not an excuse to spend recklessly. Still, with where our young talent is positioned (mostly forwards), if we are going to spend $6m+ on another player, I'd rather we bolster the blueline.
I gotta side with the good Doctor in this friendly debate. Blueline is definitely our achilles and that should get high upgrade priority with our future cap space.

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Easily? It's possible.. but, I wouldn't say it's easy for Pominville.
He's done it before a couple of times. Not trying to imply 30 goals is a cake walk. Just saying Pominville is more than capable of the feat.

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Good contract. Pominville is a pretty consistent point producer and doesn't have alot of risk. The length is fair as well. Good deal for both player and franchise imo.

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Good to see the Population will be focused on the season, and not distracted by contract speculation!

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That's not an excuse to spend recklessly. Still, with where our young talent is positioned (mostly forwards), if we are going to spend $6m+ on another player, I'd rather we bolster the blueline.
Its not spending recklessly. Fletcher certainly has a plan, as evidenced by his heavy draft of college prospects 4 years out. He wants to make a run now, with an influx of new prospect talent continuesly coming. We are set up like that.

I'm personally sick of worrying about 3 or 4 years down the road, its fine to have an eye on it. But if Vanek makes you a cup contender, which I think he does, you do it. Wild would have 3-4 years of contending, its worth it.

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10-03-2013, 12:41 PM
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Contract might be a tad expensive, but he's extremely underrated.

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Now we can say the trade is worth it. Good signing for Minny.

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If the Wild could get Vanek on a reasonable term and cap hit...it actually frees them up to move someone like Zucker and Phillips and or a pick to get another top 4 defender.

Vanek plus anther top 4 D would make the Wild a true contender sooner rather than later.

Besides, the likeness of one of the kids reaching Vanek's current level...while possible, isn't that high.

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Contract might be a tad expensive, but he's extremely underrated.
It's a very nice discount for a top 30 scorer year in and year out.

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but where are you getting that kinda defenceman. it's not like they hit UFA status everyday and if you get an UFA d you most likely have to overpay and if you are going to trade for one you lose your youngsters anyway.
True, but if we can get a good late 20's 2nd pairing guy for ~ $4.5 and get comparable production from the 1 or 2 young guys that we were able to keep, I think that would be a better route to take.

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Meh.... never really been a fan of Pominville.. I just think it's too much for him. I guess I will see how this plays out.
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10-03-2013, 12:53 PM
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I actually had a dream last night that Pominville went to UFA and signed with the Habs... So random.

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This contract is a steal for Minny. He would have gotten 6-6.5 if he hit the open market.

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Career averages: 26G/39A/65P...$5.5Mil/year is a good deal in today's NHL, so it's hard to see his game dropping off precipitously enough to make this look bad as the cap goes up.

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Good for Minnesota, Pominville is an underrated forward who can do a bit of everything (good defensively). He's not gonna score highlight reel goals using impressive dekes or anything, but the guy has a good shot and can find an opening behind the goalie.

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Fair contract, probably would get 6 or a tad higher on open market.

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It's a very nice discount for a top 30 scorer year in and year out.
uhh who's this?

Pominville was top 30 in points AND goals just once in the last five years

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Would you guys rather have Kessel at 8m a year or Pominville at 5.6?


why? just why?

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Career averages: 26G/39A/65P...$5.5Mil/year is a good deal in today's NHL, so it's hard to see his game dropping off precipitously enough to make this look bad as the cap goes up.
Yeah, Pommer has always been a very consistent player. Doesn't miss many games to injury, doesn't have a lot of ups and downs in productivity season-to-season, or even game-to-game usually.
He was wasn't great last year in Buffalo by his standards, but most of the team was atrocious, and he didn't play much during the lockout.

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Player win.

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