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10-05-2013, 06:58 PM
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Yeah Messier is more qualified than AV who had the Canucks in the playoffs every year.

Reasoning "Hes a winner" Alright.
exactly why America finds itself where it is. young folks accept defeat. Messier SIX CUPS. AV got his team into playoffs.

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exactly why America finds itself where it is. young folks accept defeat. Messier SIX CUPS. AV got his team into playoffs.
But none of these were him as a coach.

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exactly why America finds itself where it is. young folks accept defeat. Messier SIX CUPS. AV got his team into playoffs.
And there it goes

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exactly why America finds itself where it is. young folks accept defeat. Messier SIX CUPS. AV got his team into playoffs.
The fact that you used that analogy, which is terrible by the way, shows an even more profound issue, false idols.

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But none of these were him as a coach.
we're just asking for a shot.

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exactly why America finds itself where it is. young folks accept defeat. Messier SIX CUPS. AV got his team into playoffs.
So we'll put your credibility into this post....


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we're just asking for a shot.
Don't group us into it.

"You're"

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The Rangers were/are not in the position to just give someone a chance here.

Good luck re-signing Lundqvist with that approach. AV was the safe choice which was the best course of action.

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10-05-2013, 07:05 PM
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The fact that you used that analogy, which is terrible by the way, shows an even more profound issue, false idols.
my only Rangers Idol is Jean Ratelle.

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10-05-2013, 07:07 PM
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So many cliches dressed up as arguments here. Amazing. The guy won 6 cups as a player that means he'd be a good coach. It's amazing an adult wrote that. People get way too emotional.

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Let Messier take his ball and go home. Dallas Eakins is looking over his shoulder as we speak.

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AV not the right coach.. Fan since 1973 (seen it all KIDS). Of course the younger generation knows all. .500 team this year. With Messier as coach .675 and a lot tougher.
I've been a fan since 1972. You're wrong.

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I've been a fan since 1972. You're wrong.
but are you a fortune teller?

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but are you a fortune teller?
And have you visited NYC/had a pro-longed stay here.

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I'm a longtime NY Rangers fan. I have no beef with anyone here. I do have an opinion, though. Been fun. See ya in LA.

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AV not the right coach.. Fan since 1973 (seen it all KIDS). Of course the younger generation knows all. .500 team this year. With Messier as coach .675 and a lot tougher.
whats our winning % with johnc as head coach?

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The brainwashing of being a "winner", a "leader", and "tough" are why we have threads like this. People get brainwashed by these buzz words and stop living in reality. That's why a lot of players go too high in the draft, people are enamored with intangibles. So this spills over into coaching where being a "winner" and "leader" as a player makes you a better coach than an actual coach.

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I'm a longtime NY Rangers fan. I have no beef with anyone here. I do have an opinion, though. Been fun. See ya in LA.
Yeah and that's awesome that you're a long time fan but that doesn't automatically means you know what's best for them.

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And have you visited NYC/had a pro-longed stay here.
Columbia. Class of 1986.

four years Morningside Heights.

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The brainwashing of being a "winner", a "leader", and "tough" are why we have threads like this. People get brainwashed by these buzz words and stop living in reality. That's why a lot of players go too high in the draft, people are enamored with intangibles. So this spills over into coaching where being a "winner" and "leader" as a player makes you a better coach than an actual coach.
Agreed

It would have been nice if Messier actually went through the steps to become an NHL coach, like Roy.

But he didn't, expected the position and left when he couldn't get it. Absolutely shocking that he goes to the Oilers...

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Yeah and that's awesome that you're a long time fan but that doesn't automatically means you know what's best for them.
why does this forum exist then?

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10-05-2013, 07:18 PM
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I can sympathize with the OP.

A lot of you may be sick of Messier because MSG Network force feeds us 1994 but he is still the preeminent New York Ranger of the modern era, and is now associating with different franchise. I have no idea if Messier is qualified; it would have been cool to give him a shot. I think he earned it in the sense that he's been a warrior and a good ambassador for the organization for so long. After his interview on NHL Network about leaving the organization, I believed Messier interviewed for the Rangers head coaching position for sincere and selfless reasons, and that he genuinely felt unappreciated when they brought someone outside the family to take the reigns.

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why does this forum exist then?


Not sure if serious, but not for people to claim that because they're a fan longer, they already know more than the org itself.

Crease, I understand what you're saying, and back when we were looking for a coach, I tried kicking around the idea of having him first as an assistant to start smaller so he can gain some traction. But I don't think that anyone should lose sleep over this because the guy we hired has experience and coaching knowledge..

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I can sympathize with the OP.

A lot of you may be sick of Messier because MSG Network force feeds us 1994 but he is still the preeminent New York Ranger of the modern era, and is now associating with different franchise. I have no idea if Messier is qualified; it would have been cool to give him a shot. I think he earned it in the sense that he's been a warrior and a good ambassador for the organization for so long. After his interview on NHL Network about leaving the organization, I believed Messier interviewed for the Rangers head coaching position for sincere and selfless reasons, and that he genuinely felt unappreciated when they brought someone outside the family to take the reigns.
Therein lies the problem. No one has anything on Messier because he has 0 coaching bullet points on his resume. Why can't Mess go through the ropes like all these other coaches? What makes him so special that he can skip steps and take the reigns?

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I have literally no problem with Messier. I'm not one of the whiners who complains about 94 being talked about so much. But the point of this thread is ridiculous

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