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10-07-2013, 10:40 AM
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I'm glad Miller was sent down, he has had 1 good NHL game in the last 2 years and that was his NHL debut last season. I'm excited to see him play when he is NHL ready - I thought he was great in the World Junior's last year.
Any self respecting Ranger fan should be happy with this news. JT Miller is only 20 and has struggled mightily in his 27 NHL games. He needs big minutes in Hartford, where he incidentally scored 2 goals this weekend.

Its the folks who pine for Miller (or anybody else who isn't ready) as an offensive upgrade over Boyle that are out to lunch on the subject of prospect development.

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10-07-2013, 11:08 AM
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Can we just all agree that Boyle is simply a bottom-6 forward and move on?
Bottom 3. then we can move on.

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10-07-2013, 11:28 AM
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He is mostly bottom 3 or 4. He can do bottom 6 when he's winning draws in all zones consistently and somewhat shoots...

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10-07-2013, 11:37 AM
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Bottom 3. then we can move on.
...in a perfect world. You continue to project the entirety of the Rangers' roster issues onto Brian Boyle. Its this anyone but Boyle mentality that causes you to consistently step on intellectual landmines, like your endorsements of Jeff Halpern last year.

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10-07-2013, 12:37 PM
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Anaheim and Chicago were two of the top teams in the NHL regular season in 2013. Look at the production from their bottom six players. Look at the production from the Rangers bottom six players. Its not getting better this season with the current personnel on the team right now. AV feels veteran players should get a longer look or a longer opportunity at the start of the season. The Rangers aren't winning anything with players who do nothing but give the other forwards a rest. Why don't they just send Fast to the AHL and bring up Powe? The cap hit is only $170,000 higher. Go with the veteran lineup this season or most of the season. Evalaute the players with one way contracts. Go with a younger lineup next season. The cap goes to $68M-$70M. Re-sign the key guys. Fill out the roster with the young guys. The coach has a 5 year contract. Sather isn't going anywhere even if he gives up the GM title at some point to Gorton. Job security isn't an issue with these guys. Dolan has changed Knicks bosses 5 times since Slats came here in 2000.

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10-07-2013, 12:45 PM
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Miller is a center. He played his best game in Edmonton. He played center that game. Millsy played his best hockey last season at center in his brief stint with the Rangers. Fourth line wing is a waste of time.

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10-07-2013, 12:49 PM
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Miller is a center. He played his best game in Edmonton. He played center that game. Millsy played his best hockey last season at center in his brief stint with the Rangers. Fourth line wing is a waste of time.
I really think he earned the 3rd line center spot. Oh well. He'll be back.

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10-07-2013, 12:52 PM
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Anaheim and Chicago were two of the top teams in the NHL regular season in 2013. Look at the production from their bottom six players. Look at the production from the Rangers bottom six players. Its not getting better this season with the current personnel on the team right now. AV feels veteran players should get a longer look or a longer opportunity at the start of the season. The Rangers aren't winning anything with players who do nothing but give the other forwards a rest. Why don't they just send Fast to the AHL and bring up Powe? The cap hit is only $170,000 higher. Go with the veteran lineup this season or most of the season. Evalaute the players with one way contracts. Go with a younger lineup next season. The cap goes to $68M-$70M. Re-sign the key guys. Fill out the roster with the young guys. The coach has a 5 year contract. Sather isn't going anywhere even if he gives up the GM title at some point to Gorton. Job security isn't an issue with these guys. Dolan has changed Knicks bosses 5 times since Slats came here in 2000.
Showcasing some of the older players?

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10-07-2013, 12:55 PM
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Nothing wrong with Miller going down. He had to know it was a possibility with Hagelin and Callahan returning at some point. Especially on a team that's over saturated with centers.

There seems to be a lowered standard with prospects. The door has been open but neither nor Miller have stepped through that door and then slammed it behind them the way Callahan did (his second time around), Dubinsky, Staal or McDonagh did.

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10-07-2013, 12:58 PM
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Showcasing some of the older players?
What is there to showcase? If these were players other teams wanted for these roles, we would want to keep them.

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What is there to showcase? If these were players other teams wanted for these roles, we would want to keep them.
The players the Rangers have would be, and are, good complimentary depth pieces. The problem is they are all complimentary players with no one in the bottom-6 to compliment. Pyatt, Boyle, Dorsett, Moore, Asham. All complimentary pieces.

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The players the Rangers have would be, and are, good complimentary depth pieces. The problem is they are all complimentary players with no one in the bottom-6 to compliment. Pyatt, Boyle, Dorsett, Moore, Asham. All complimentary pieces.
Fair enough, but it doesn't really do much to showcase them in situations that aren't ideal for them.

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Anaheim and Chicago were two of the top teams in the NHL regular season in 2013. Look at the production from their bottom six players. Look at the production from the Rangers bottom six players. Its not getting better this season with the current personnel on the team right now. AV feels veteran players should get a longer look or a longer opportunity at the start of the season. The Rangers aren't winning anything with players who do nothing but give the other forwards a rest. Why don't they just send Fast to the AHL and bring up Powe? The cap hit is only $170,000 higher. Go with the veteran lineup this season or most of the season. Evalaute the players with one way contracts. Go with a younger lineup next season. The cap goes to $68M-$70M. Re-sign the key guys. Fill out the roster with the young guys. The coach has a 5 year contract. Sather isn't going anywhere even if he gives up the GM title at some point to Gorton. Job security isn't an issue with these guys. Dolan has changed Knicks bosses 5 times since Slats came here in 2000.
I agree with you, that's the best long term plan.
Miller is 20, nothing wrong with spending 1+ season in the AHL.
Same goes with Kreider. He doesn't have a full professional season under his belt yet and some on these boards are already calling him a bust.
McIlrath needs 1 more season in the AHL.
I don't know why they scratched Fast, he should be sent down to the AHL to play, call up a vet.

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10-07-2013, 01:24 PM
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Id be surprised if Fast didn't play tomorrow.

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he is a big guy that sucks.. back in the day Eric Daze was a big guy but he was a solid goal scorer.. id take a big guy that plays big over a big guy that just does not do anything all that well....
Another fan that doesn't see value unless it is easy to see on every shift.

Adding to the hilarity is bringing up Daze who fell far short of what it looked like he would become.

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10-07-2013, 01:34 PM
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Id be surprised if Fast didn't play tomorrow.
Scratched in favor of Asham.

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Vigneault, who will scratch rookie Jesper Fast, said he and Asham had a discussion before the season started in which Asham said he hoped to stick around.
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I will be surprised if he is. AV made it quite clear

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We are playing against LA and SJ, two big teams so I knew I was going to put Arron in the lineup sooner than later

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I will be surprised if he is. AV made it quite clear
What? The quote in the article when I clicked it was

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"We're playing against one of the biggest teams in the NHL, Stanley Cup champions two years ago," Vigneault said after practice Sunday. "They roll four lines and use their size, and Arron is one of our more physical players. I knew I was going to put Arron in the lineup sooner rather than later."
I can't find a mention of SJ in there.

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What? The quote in the article when I clicked it was



I can't find a mention of SJ in there.
I think he mentioned the Sharks in the Posts' article today.

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Found it now. I hadn't read through all the articles yet. That's fine and makes sense too. Of course I keep forgetting that they play in LA, travel to San Jose, and then travel back to LA to play Anaheim on Thursday, as if that makes sense. I'll amend it to say that I'd be surprised if Fast didn't play Thursday.

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Bottom 3. then we can move on.
If I agree, will that put this to bed?

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not surprised, but i thought Fast would go down first and Miller would stick till Hags got back

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not surprised, but i thought Fast would go down first and Miller would stick till Hags got back
Fast has shown more than Miller.

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