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10-09-2013, 12:02 AM
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Moulson for J.T. Miller

My Islander friend and I had a difference in opinion on this trade. So we decided to ask the boards? Moulson for Miller straight up as Ranger fans do you do it? Moulson contract is up at seasons end.

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Isles don't want him.

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Unless we keep giving up 9 goals (lol) the Rangers' window is pretty short-term, which means Moulson's higher value for us.

Don't think Isles do it, though. They have more Millers than Moulsons for sure.

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would clearly be a loss for the isles. no way

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Why in the world would we give up Miller for a UFA who made his living playing with Tavares?

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No chance the Isles would do it. As a Rangers fan (forgetting about the cap, because I have no idea what the cap implications would be) I would definitely lean towards doing it. Our relatively bare prospect cupboard is a bit concerning though.

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No chance the Isles would do it. As a Rangers fan (forgetting about the cap, because I have no idea what the cap implications would be) I would definitely lean towards doing it. Our relatively bare prospect cupboard is a bit concerning though.
Why would we do it? That's a Neil Smith move.

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I would definitely give up a Miller for a Moulson

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Why would we do it? That's a Neil Smith move.
We're weak on LW? You're trading a good prospect for a proven 30-goal scorer who's great on the PP and great in front of the net (two of our weaknesses), and we're a team that's is in its window to be a contender. And there's no guarantee that Miller ever becomes a contributor to this team like Moulson would be (just like there's no guarantee that Moulson won't flop like the Gomez/Drury/Holik/Kamenskys of yesteryear...but I'd take my chances on Moulson).

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We're weak on LW? You're trading a good prospect for a proven 30-goal scorer who's great on the PP and great in front of the net (two of our weaknesses), and we're a team that's is in its window to be a contender. And there's no guarantee that Miller ever becomes a contributor to this team like Moulson would be (just like there's no guarantee that Moulson won't flop like the Gomez/Drury/Holik/Kamenskys of yesteryear...but I'd take my chances on Moulson).
He's only proven playing with Tavares.

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He's only proven playing with Tavares.
We certainly don't have a player like Tavares up front, but with Nash, Stepan, Richards, Cally, Zucc, Brassard...we have a good group with diverse talents, and I think Moulson would slot in perfectly with the group we currently have.

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My Islander friend and I had a difference in opinion on this trade. So we decided to ask the boards? Moulson for Miller straight up as Ranger fans do you do it? Moulson contract is up at seasons end.
This might be one of the worst trade proposals i've read on here.

Miller could be similar to Kessler. Moulson is a product of Tavares.

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We certainly don't have a player like Tavares up front, but with Nash, Stepan, Richards, Cally, Zucc, Brassard...we have a good group with diverse talents, and I think Moulson would slot in perfectly with the group we currently have.
I don't see it. At least not for Miller. Until proven otherwise, he suffers from Dom Moore syndrome.

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We certainly don't have a player like Tavares up front, but with Nash, Stepan, Richards, Cally, Zucc, Brassard...we have a good group with diverse talents, and I think Moulson would slot in perfectly with the group we currently have.
Just like Kreider and Kristo would slot in perfectly with them?

Don't underestimate the importance of chemistry. For Moulson, Tavares is the best he's gonna do and he's taken it and ran with it.

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Hm...I feel like you guys are vastly underrating Moulson...maybe I'm overrating him? I don't know, I'm a fan of Miller, but I would strongly consider this trade (again, pretending that the cap is not an issue). I'd love to have Moulson on this team.

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cue the overreaction to a bad loss terrible trade proposal music

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Um, I would probably do this trade without losing much sleep. Not sure the undervaluing of Moulson (whom I really dislike) here; is it because we hate the Islanders? I don't think he'd produce as well without Tavares, but Miller is probably going to end up a 2nd/3rd tweener and Moulson, while one dimension (and hideous) is at least a pretty solid top-six winger (offensively) and PP guy.

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Um, I would probably do this trade without losing much sleep. Not sure the undervaluing of Moulson (whom I really dislike) here; is it because we hate the Islanders? I don't think he'd produce as well without Tavares, but Miller is probably going to end up a 2nd/3rd tweener and Moulson, while one dimension (and hideous) is at least a pretty solid top-six winger (offensively) and PP guy.
Except Moulson isn't signed. I'd take the risk if he was signed to a reasonable contract.

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I guess I agree with that. I don't think Miller has a ton of value outside of our organization, so the topic is probably moot, but a rental Moulson is a lot less intriguing.

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No thanks, Miller is a key piece moving forward. Hopefully he'll develop into our second line center, he has the tools to do so.

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Eh, no thanks, for the reasons Jonathan listed.

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I guess I agree with that. I don't think Miller has a ton of value outside of our organization, so the topic is probably moot, but a rental Moulson is a lot less intriguing.
Miller has more value than you'd think, IMO. He's going to be a 2nd/3rd line player in this league, pretty much guaranteed.

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A home grown, physical, hard working 19 year old player who's probably our most well rounded prospect for an almost 30 year old Islander that makes almost 4 mil a year and is about to go FA? Are you serious right now, and have you learned nothing as a Rangers fan?

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