That's not what I meant and I'm pretty sure you know that. There just doesn't seem to be any guys willing to stir the pot. It's all very polite and PC and I'm not the only one who thinks so judging from some of the other posts on this board. I don't like everyone bring up Avery all the time either but at least the team had someone who initiated instead of reacting, actually this team doesn't even react as they showed the other night. Hopefully they got the message and from tonight on they start to dictate instead of being dictated to, have some pride and show some resolve!