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10-10-2013, 11:33 PM
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Not if we are winning and they are playing well defensively. Obviously, like I said it's not good enough and even I'm starting to get fed up with Desharnais. But they weren't "awful."
They aren't winning nor playing well defensively. Montreal has been rather "meh" to start the year.

Their lack of production is a direct result.

There 8 mllion combined salary for no production does hurt the team as well

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Anyone else bothered by the fact it took 4 minutes for us to score on an empty net? That's pretty embarassing.
Didn't look like anyone was even trying to score.

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Hall, Eberle, Hopkins played each 25+. You guys realize thats twice the ice time galchenyuk got?
You play when you get da respeck.

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Now your getting the right idea MT..

Eller - 20:01 TOI
DD - 14:20 TOI
Boullion - 12:09 TOI
Subban - Team high 25:34 TOI
Galchenyuk and Gally with less than 14 minutes though
so the Gallys with less TOI than DD?

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  • Timmins hit the m****ing jackpot with Galchenyuk. He's our leading scorer if I'm not mistaken and not even playing center... I wish that last part would change but I am so glad of his success. Franchise player.
  • Markov the general is back, these two games he was extremely steady defensively and created many scoring chances.
  • Subban at .ppg and dominating once again. Has been the best player so far this year as expected, despite the few blunders here and there. It's scary to think that he still hasn't hit his prime.
  • Excellent line handling by Therrien, he basically gave DD and Briere a chance against Calgary and seeing how they didn't perform they were demoted. Candy was handed out to them in the last 4 minutes of the game for the shorty (excluding MaxPac) and a very nice gesture by Briere who could have scored his first goal as a Hab but decided an empty netter wouldn't be the most glorious way of doing it.
  • Eller was imposing physically this game, some will say he was dirty, but then I say he was being competitive and using his size to his advantage. I did not like the Hall hit, and was really hoping he was okay, but I dont think Eller would hit him that hard to begin with there was at least 15% embellishment there.
  • In case Edmonton is willing to trade Yakupov, we should offer them a premium. I still believe in the kid (DUHHHHHH).
  • Yea that wil never happen. What might though is Galchenyuk being identified as the best forward on this team as soon as this season. I am counting on it.
This is just not true. He's been quite weak defensively and has been out to pasture on a couple of plays that resulted in goals.

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Great game but put Eller back with the Kids - Pleks does not look good on there

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They aren't winning nor playing well defensively. Montreal has been rather "meh" to start the year.

Their lack of production is a direct result.

There 8 mllion combined salary for no production does hurt the team as well
Ah, okay. I must have missed the score of the game tonight even though it was in the top corner the whole time.

And both Gionta and Desharnais are playing well defensively. Gionta almost always plays well defensively and Desharnais had a handful of steals tonight (he still has a stupid knack for chasing the puck though).

DD is doing well in the circle too. 58% tonight and 58% on the season.

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Anyone else bothered by the fact it took 4 minutes for us to score on an empty net? That's pretty embarassing.
Why is it embarassing? We were "short handed" and responsible (except Eller lol). Having a shot on goal is NOT that easy especially when you want to make sure to cross the middle line.

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Subban leads all d in points so far and didn't even get one in the first game.

6 points in 4 games and +4 and logging more ice time than last year.

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Didn't look like anyone was even trying to score.
Well they couldn't get hold of the puck. Doesn't speak well to the puck possesion aspect of the game.

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so the Gallys with less TOI than DD?
The Gally's never get ice-time. If they keep it up, they will though. Especially if they keep playing with Pleks.

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Why is it embarassing? We were "short handed" and responsible (except Eller lol). Having a shot on goal is NOT that easy especially when you want to make sure to cross the middle line.
Edmonton has obviously practiced their extended 6-on-5s, expecting to pull it out at some point.

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Believe it or not, I think Bournival would excel with the kids.

His speed is second to none on this team. He might not do as good as Eller, but if MT wants to split the lineup up somewhat, Bournival would look good there. Defensively responsible, fast as hell, can keep up with them, and he is pretty smart. Lots of tenacity too.

Plekanec is awesome and I love him, but he doesn't have the jump in his step to keep up with them, I don't think.
I think that's a lot to put on Bournival. He had a nice game on the 4th line, but he also made some rookie mistakes that, well, you expect from a rookie. I don't think he's ready for the defensive responsibilities of a centre getting around 15 mins a game, especially at ES, especially if the Gally's start drawing tougher matchups. If anything, I think a strong defensive centre like Eller or Plekanec gives them room to succeed. Bournival might be a good fit, but not yet, IMO.

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I can agree with this.

However, now that he's actually being put back down the line-up, maybe he can be that 3rd line specialist even some of the haters thought he could be.

He's been overused for too long now. I know that I saw him as more than he realistically can be (I got too excited when he made it cause I was pushing for the kid from his ECHL days), but maybe he can develop back into that 3rd line kind of player that can produce a solid amount of points.

Guess we'll see. He's got a handful of games to prove that he can be that guy.
agree with everything you said.
How about Gally Bournival Gally line, I want to see that...

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lol RDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Galchenyuk 1 Yakupov 0

http://www.rds.ca/

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Why is it embarassing? We were "short handed" and responsible (except Eller lol). Having a shot on goal is NOT that easy especially when you want to make sure to cross the middle line.
Yeah exactly. Only thinking about the empty goal is the best way for the defending team to get scored upon.

As you said, they were shorthanded without the option to ice. That and the Oilers played pretty well in those 4 minutes (...and should have showed up earlier).

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I didn't watch the whole game, but I thought the line shuffling was quite effective. I liked what I saw from Gally-Pleks-Galch and Patch-Eller-Briere.

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I think that's a lot to put on Bournival. He had a nice game on the 4th line, but he also made some rookie mistakes that, well, you expect from a rookie. I don't think he's ready for the defensive responsibilities of a centre getting around 15 mins a game, especially at ES, especially if the Gally's start drawing tougher matchups. If anything, I think a strong defensive centre like Eller or Plekanec gives them room to succeed. Bournival might be a good fit, but not yet, IMO.
If I slapped Bournival on the line with the kids, I'd actually play him on wing.

I think Bournival has developed into a better winger than a center anyway.

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Ah, okay. I must have missed the score of the game tonight even though it was in the top corner the whole time.

And both Gionta and Desharnais are playing well defensively. Gionta almost always plays well defensively and Desharnais had a handful of steals tonight (he still has a stupid knack for chasing the puck though).
Great montreal beat a crappy Oilers team in which they struggled until the third and we're hanging on for good portions.

If this is good enough for you, then this is possibly a lottery team. What we saw tonight, will not make for a playoff team over the course of the season

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I'd give today's lines another shot. Pacioretty-Eller-Briere were all on different wavelengths but individually had a lot of room to work with and it's worth giving that line an extended look. Plekanec did not look good at all with the Gallys but he covers defensively and showed enough promise to give another glance.

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I think that's a lot to put on Bournival. He had a nice game on the 4th line, but he also made some rookie mistakes that, well, you expect from a rookie. I don't think he's ready for the defensive responsibilities of a centre getting around 15 mins a game, especially at ES, especially if the Gally's start drawing tougher matchups. If anything, I think a strong defensive centre like Eller or Plekanec gives them room to succeed. Bournival might be a good fit, but not yet, IMO.
You're exactly right, which is why I would suggest putting someone like White between Bourque and Gionta on the "3rd line" and keep that 4th line together as is for now. I thought Desharnais was better than the previous game, so sitting him next game would probably send the wrong message, but it's the way I'd go if/when it got to that point.

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lol RDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It should be:

Galchy 7

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Great montreal beat a crappy Oilers team in which they struggled until the third and we're hanging on for good portions.

If this is good enough for you, then this is possibly a lottery team. What we saw tonight, will not make for a playoff team over the course of the season
Okay. See you in April. I'll be watching Habs playoff hockey, you'll be complaining about something else.

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Personally, I liked seeing Eller and Patches on the same line. Two big bodies, both with strong possession games. Having Eller seemed to inspire Patches, who laid out some nice hits throughout the game. They were also great on the forecheck.

I found Briere worked well with them as well. His vision and passes complement their play.

While Plek will need to get used to playing with the two Kids, I think he has the speed and agility to make them more explosive than Eller can. The line looked great on the rush. Galchenyuk can also learn a lot from seeing Plek's two-way game down the middle.

As for Bournival, I've always liked White, but Bournival is on another level. He rejuvenated Prust and Moen. The 4th line looked solid all game, and Prust was rewarded with a goal.

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Alright we need EGG line for next game. Plek was trying to follow the 2 kids and wasn't able to. Lines should be

Galchy-Eller-Gally
Pac-Plek-Brière
Bourque-DD-Gionta
Moen-Bournival-Prust
No we don't. We need to rotate the offense.

Honestly, if we could get a player to replace either of Gio or DD to play on the left wing, this would be perfect. I don't think we could get a clear upgrade, but we'd just need someone who could follow the play better, and obviously that is bigger. So we can play Gally at C.
X-Eller-Briere
Patches-Plek-Bouque
X-Chucky-Gally
Can Bournival handle LW ? He'd be good there. Can LL play in the top 9 as a RW ? He'd be good there too. Should we play Prust there ?
Maybe theres player we can get on the market, but I really would prefer giving one of the kids a shot before.

We can swap around Bourque to accomodate Leblanc/Gionta/Bournival/DD in the lineup.

Ideally, I think Leblanc or Bournival, if given a shot will succeed there.

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