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10-11-2013, 04:43 PM
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Yet, despite that quote from Girardi there is a large number here who seem to say that it is in fact this "new system". Im not going to call any posters out by names but those who were on the system bandwagon what do you say now?

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What do you mean by seen a recent practice? Practices aren't open to the public and/or televised.
Plenty of insiders roam around...and I know, it very well could be the burlesque scene I described or the dude with his head in his arse. Either one seems entirely possible.

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10-11-2013, 10:04 PM
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Yet, despite that quote from Girardi there is a large number here who seem to say that it is in fact this "new system". Im not going to call any posters out by names but those who were on the system bandwagon what do you say now?
I certainly think part of the problem is a team changing their style of play.

I really can't imagine any scenario in which any player would say a new playing style is too confusing for them or that their brand new coach is asking too much of them.

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Around these boards, there is a lot of sniping between the Torts supporters and the Torts detractors. Is it possible the team is experiencing something similar? Girardi, McDonagh, Callahan, all experienced big success with Torts. I can't see any of them wanting him gone. Assuming the reports are true, that would basically create a locker room where some players who loved life under the old coach now have a new coach thanks to their teammates. Can you imagine being in their shoes? You bust your ass for years, earn a reputation and thrive under a boss, and all of a sudden, you find out that some of your co-workers ran to the general manager to get your guy fired? Suddenly there is a new guy, talking about changes and "clean slates." A clean slate is great for Richards (lousy season), Nash (lousy post-season) and Kreider (lousy season). It wipes away their mistakes. For guys who thrived under Torts, a "clean slate" doesn't wipe away mistakes, it wipes away accomplishments. That would have to be tough to handle.

The quotations from post-game absolutely floored me:

Girardi: "We've just got to figure out what the heck is going on and start being a hard team to play against, and get back to what we were successful at the last couple of years."

Callahan: "There's just no pride going on right now in our defensive zone."

We are four games in, and Girardi is publicly calling for a return to Torts hockey, and Callahan, the captain, is essentially putting all of the blame on the D.

I really hope this isn't the case (and again, it's not like there's any proof for it--I'm basically just thinking out loud here), but if this IS happening, the roster might have to be blown up sooner rather than later (hard for two groups to get on the same page after something like that). Eh, I'm probably just over-reading the situation.

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I certainly think part of the problem is a team changing their style of play.

I really can't imagine any scenario in which any player would say a new playing style is too confusing for them or that their brand new coach is asking too much of them.
If I give it any consideration at all it is very little. Teams change coaches mid-season and don't look this bad. They have had all summer, camp and pre-season to get used to this new style of play. I'm also tired of hearing the injury excuse, if you all think Hags coming back is going to jump start the offense and the PP you will be very disappointed.

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Around these boards, there is a lot of sniping between the Torts supporters and the Torts detractors. Is it possible the team is experiencing something similar? Girardi, McDonagh, Callahan, all experienced big success with Torts. I can't see any of them wanting him gone. Assuming the reports are true, that would basically create a locker room where some players who loved life under the old coach now have a new coach thanks to their teammates. Can you imagine being in their shoes? You bust your ass for years, earn a reputation and thrive under a boss, and all of a sudden, you find out that some of your co-workers ran to the general manager to get your guy fired? Suddenly there is a new guy, talking about changes and "clean slates." A clean slate is great for Richards (lousy season), Nash (lousy post-season) and Kreider (lousy season). It wipes away their mistakes. For guys who thrived under Torts, a "clean slate" doesn't wipe away mistakes, it wipes away accomplishments. That would have to be tough to handle.

The quotations from post-game absolutely floored me:

Girardi: "We've just got to figure out what the heck is going on and start being a hard team to play against, and get back to what we were successful at the last couple of years."

Callahan: "There's just no pride going on right now in our defensive zone."

We are four games in, and Girardi is publicly calling for a return to Torts hockey, and Callahan, the captain, is essentially putting all of the blame on the D.

I really hope this isn't the case (and again, it's not like there's any proof for it--I'm basically just thinking out loud here), but if this IS happening, the roster might have to be blown up sooner rather than later (hard for two groups to get on the same page after something like that). Eh, I'm probably just over-reading the situation.
I think you're drawing conclusions that aren't there from those quotes.

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