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Rangers @ Blues: Better?

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Del Zotto 0 0%
Girardi 0 0%
Stralman 0 0%
Fast 0 0%
Pyatt 0 0%
Dorsett 7 8.54%
Brassard 1 1.22%
J. Moore 0 0%
Staal 0 0%
Richards 38 46.34%
Stepan 3 3.66%
Boyle 0 0%
Callahan 17 20.73%
McDonagh 0 0%
D. Moore 0 0%
Zuccarello 3 3.66%
Falk 2 2.44%
Pouliot 0 0%
Lundvist 4 4.88%
Biron 7 8.54%
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10-12-2013, 10:07 PM
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literally nothing you said there is even remotely close to being accurate

youre a fan i get it but let's be real here

if he's physical its like when your puppy is wrestling with your foot, losing, and you don't even realize it and look down and laugh
I feel like you don't actually pay attention to Zucc. He is routinely one of our most physical players on the forecheck it's kinda sad since he is the smallest player we have. He's very aggressive.

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again with the little analogies. youre not even watching him play. you cannot get past the height.
It's hard to get past the height when he has 0 points.

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10-12-2013, 10:08 PM
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again with the little analogies. youre not even watching him play. you cannot get past the height.
Just cause he disagrees with you doesn't mean he isn't watching and is blinded by height. Let the excuses continue! I got news for you guys, he's not your little brother or buddy, people aren't picking on him.

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10-12-2013, 10:08 PM
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and he should take pyatt dmoore and mza with him

dorsett on a short short leash if i'm AV
MZA was maybe the best Ranger in the opening game and he was one of the best Rangers in the entire stretch since he came back. To argue that he has nothing to do in the NHL is pretty laughable.

Pyatt is a depth player and a body that the team actually needs atm like it or not.

And you dont want Dorsett gone ? The guy is the indirect reason that we lost today. BONEHEAD penalties that directly leads to PP goals.

Add Biron in the mix, and you know why we walked away from this with no points

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It's hard to get past the height when he has 0 points.
its not that hard to actually watch him play and see the little things that he is doing that are good
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Not a good argument? The team looking overmatched doesn't mean that it's acceptable on an individual basis. Too many excuses around here for certain players and the team in general.
Well if the Whole team sucks, so why do u focus only on one player? Come up With a better argument. I agree that Zucca has to play better, but Our main focus must be on defense. 20 goals against in the last 3 games are just to much. The fact is that Zucc is just invisible, while other players make horrible mistakes that leads to goals, like Staal on the first goal, stepans turnover, turnovers in the defensive zone etc. That should be the focus, not Boyle, Biron, Zucca, Pyatt etc.

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yah you are right its hard to get past his height and weight when its really the main reason he doesn't belong in the league. he's very skilled but there are women that have better NHL builds then this guy. i've watched him plenty my friend. you like him because you find him adorable. thats really it like a mascot.

if he was even 5 7 and thicker he might have a chance. but truth is he doesn't skate all that well for a guy that small (same problem prucha had and he was BIGGER) and he's NOT STRONG AT ALL. he's routinely abused and overpowered.

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Just cause he disagrees with you doesn't mean he isn't watching and blinded by height. Let the excuses continue! I got news for you guys, he's not your little brother or buddy, people aren't picking on him.
literally everything he has said has compared zuccarello to a child or puppy. how is that not blinded by size? you are actually critiquing his game which i respect but this guy has not said anything other than he is small.

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Zuccarello does a lot of good things when he's on the ice, and also has a ton of confidence in his puck control on the PP. Get over his size, open your eyes, and see the little things that Zucc does right.

0 points doesn't mean he's playing poorly. Watch the games, don't just look at the stat sheet.

It's also HILARIOUS to single out one player who isn't named Derek Dorsett or Marty Biron after tonight's game.

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Anyone else getting excited about Fast? The guy shows some good flashes. Not saying he's been world beater but he's shown flashes.

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its not that hard to actually watch him play and see the little things that he is doing that are good
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Little things don't cut it after awhile. He works his ass off and I give him credit for that but he just doesn't have the size to be a dominant forechecker. He has to make up for it with some production.

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Zuccarello does a lot of good things when he's on the ice, and also has a ton of confidence in his puck control on the PP. Get over his size, open your eyes, and see the little things that Zucc does right.

0 points doesn't mean he's playing poorly. Watch the games, don't just look at the stat sheet.

It's also HILARIOUS to single out one player who isn't named Derek Dorsett or Marty Biron after tonight's game.
Yep, my favorite was how 4 or so players need to be off the team but Dorsett just needs to be on a short leash. The guy does nothing but take bad penalties.

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Serious question: Why was Doresett on still on the ice after his third penalty ? This is minus 9000 points on AV in my book. At least Torts didn't put up with crap like that.

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Well if the Whole team sucks, so why do u focus only on one player? Come up With a better argument. I agree that Zucca has to play better, but Our main focus must be on defense. 20 goals against in the last 3 games are just to much. The fact is that Zucc is just invisible, while other players make horrible mistakes that leads to goals, like Staal on the first goal, stepans turnover, turnovers in the defensive zone etc. That should be the focus, not Boyle, Biron, Zucca, Pyatt etc.
I already came up with a solid argument rooted in reality, you just refuse to accept it. Just agree to disagree and you can keep singing the guys praises all you like.

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Well if the Whole team sucks, so why do u focus only on one player? Come up With a better argument. I agree that Zucca has to play better, but Our main focus must be on defense. 20 goals against in the last 3 games are just to much. The fact is that Zucc is just invisible, while other players make horrible mistakes that leads to goals, like Staal on the first goal, stepans turnover, turnovers in the defensive zone etc. That should be the focus, not Boyle, Biron, Zucca, Pyatt etc.
this is what you get from hf regarding "zucca"

well he's invisible instead of making mistakes so much better got it.

and for those saying he's physical. IT DOESN"T MATTER he's a nat they swipe him away he isn't causing any turnovers any damage with his physicality

HE"S GOT ZERO POINTS

he's got maybe one shot on net that i've seen


and yes he's not the only one that sucks. but that's not how i started it. i said THIS THIS THIS AND THIS GUY should be gone. but again since this is hf you see some people not liking "yucca" and forget it the crowd comes to the rescue. i'm not sure why he's done literally nothing for the rangers really.

never scored a big goal in a big spot never had a moment. couple shootout moves when no one is chasing him shocker he's got good hands.

don't get it other than the fact HE"S LITTLE AND WE LOVE HIM

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Serious question: Why was Doresett on still on the ice after his third penalty ? This is minus 9000 points on AV in my book. At least Torts didn't put up with crap like that.
Cause he made a dumb choice to dress 7 D and leave us short a forward. We had to keep throwing him out there to spread minutes.

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literally everything he has said has compared zuccarello to a child or puppy. how is that not blinded by size? you are actually critiquing his game which i respect but this guy has not said anything other than he is small.
sounds like you are the one blinded by size because that's all you seem to have taken from my posts about him

i told you all the reasons he's not good enough you chose to ignore them and focus on me calling him LIKE A child or a puppy

you are the one blinded by size my friend

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again with the little analogies. youre not even watching him play. you cannot get past the height.
these are the same people who think mdz is a offensive defenseman

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Serious question: Why was Doresett on still on the ice after his third penalty ? This is minus 9000 points on AV in my book. At least Torts didn't put up with crap like that.
should have been benched

for some reason AV went with 7 D which made that hard to do

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I don't know why why some people are happy with giving up 5 goals.
Because its not 6 or 9

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I think this fanbase needs to give Dorsett a chance.

A player that plays on the line will go over sometimes, but I really thought he sparked the team early in the game when we were getting outshot 11-2 or whatever it was. When things tarted getting chippy, we started controlling the play.

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should have been benched

for some reason AV went with 7 D which made that hard to do

dumb coaching move
the idea behind that was its easier for a dman to play forward than it is for a forward to play d. not that bad of an idea actually.

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Little things don't cut it after awhile. He works his ass off and I give him credit for that but he just doesn't have the size to be a dominant forechecker. He has to make up for it with some production.
This times 1000. I literally can't remember the last time he scored a goal. He is an offensive player who is producing no offense. MZA is not going to stay in the nhl if this continues, period.

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the idea behind that was its easier for a dman to play forward than it is for a forward to play d. not that bad of an idea actually.
The original intent may have been good but the end result was not. Turned out to be a bad call.

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